[sage-support] Re: How to use mathematica and sage ?

2007-12-12 Thread alex clemesha
On Dec 12, 2007 10:10 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 12, 2007 10:00 PM, pgdoyle <> wrote: > > Hi William, > > > > If we set up a sage notebook server on a machine with mathematica > > installed, and let the general public sign up for accounts, > > then the general public wil

[sage-support] Re: How to use mathematica and sage ?

2007-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Dec 12, 2007 10:00 PM, pgdoyle <> wrote: > Hi William, > > If we set up a sage notebook server on a machine with mathematica > installed, and let the general public sign up for accounts, > then the general public will be able to run mathematica through the > sage browser. And without having lo

[sage-support] Re: Sage vs Octave

2007-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Dec 12, 2007 9:05 PM, Thomas : > Bill, > I had to learn C in graduate school as a medicinal chemist. But I > didn't do any programming since then (1985!). Then several years back > I had the responsibility to administer a couple of unix machines and > decided that I would learn a "scripting" la

[sage-support] Re: Bessel argument order

2007-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Dec 12, 2007 3:18 PM, pgdoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'll actually be posting a vague pie in the sky grant proposal to > > sage-* for feedback in about 3 or 4 days > > about improving special functions in Sage > > > > This sounds like a very good idea. One of the main things I

[sage-support] Re: Bessel argument order

2007-12-12 Thread pgdoyle
> I'll actually be posting a vague pie in the sky grant proposal to > sage-* for feedback in about 3 or 4 days > about improving special functions in Sage > This sounds like a very good idea. One of the main things I worry about missing from Mathematica is all the special functions. This is

[sage-support] Subcontracting to Mathematica

2007-12-12 Thread pgdoyle
Say I want to get Mathematica to compute some function that Sage can't compute for me. What is the best way to pipe the arguments into Mathematica, and then get the answer back into the world of sage? Here's what I tried: sage: def math_bessel_K(nu,x): ... m=mathematica('N[BesselK['+str(mat

[sage-support] Re: Bessel argument order

2007-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Dec 12, 2007 2:44 PM, pgdoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To get back to the question of argument order, it seems strange to me > that > pari(2).besselk(3) > should meant K_2(3) rather than K_3(2). > > sage: pari(2).besselk(3) > 0.06151045847174203765682007145 > sage: bessel_K(2,3) > 0.06151

[sage-support] Re: Bessel argument order

2007-12-12 Thread pgdoyle
To get back to the question of argument order, it seems strange to me that pari(2).besselk(3) should meant K_2(3) rather than K_3(2). sage: pari(2).besselk(3) 0.06151045847174203765682007145 sage: bessel_K(2,3) 0.0615104584717420 bessel_K(nu,x) is written K_nu(x) because the first argument nu is

[sage-support] Re: Graphics updating?

2007-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Dec 12, 2007 12:38 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 12, 2007 12:22 PM, kcrisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The question: > > > > Is there any way to get SAGE to update a graphic without actually > > > > creating a new graphic, either in command

[sage-support] Re: Graphics updating?

2007-12-12 Thread alex clemesha
On Dec 12, 2007 8:16 AM, kcrisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Congratulations on the slashdotting! Amazing how many things get > verbed nowadays ;) > > All this publicity has led some of my colleagues to finally notice > SAGE, and one had a very nice question about whether it can do > everythi

[sage-support] Re: Graphics updating?

2007-12-12 Thread Ted Kosan
kcrisman wrote: > Is there any way to get SAGE to update a graphic without actually > creating a new graphic, either in command-line mode or in notebook? > Obviously flooding the screen with graphics is not what he has in > mind, but I couldn't find any documentation on whether this was > possibl

[sage-support] Re: Graphics updating?

2007-12-12 Thread kcrisman
On Dec 12, 3:38 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 12, 2007 12:22 PM, kcrisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The question: > > > > Is there any way to get SAGE to update a graphic without actually > > > > creating a new graphic, either in command-line mode or

[sage-support] Re: Graphics updating?

2007-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Dec 12, 2007 12:22 PM, kcrisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The question: > > > Is there any way to get SAGE to update a graphic without actually > > > creating a new graphic, either in command-line mode or in notebook? > > > > Would creating an animation be a reasonable substi

[sage-support] Re: Graphics updating?

2007-12-12 Thread kcrisman
> > > The question: > > Is there any way to get SAGE to update a graphic without actually > > creating a new graphic, either in command-line mode or in notebook? > > Would creating an animation be a reasonable substitute? > E.g., > > {{{id=119| > a = random_matrix(GF(37),10)*10 > b = [a^i for i

[sage-support] Fwd: SAGE trouble on RHL FC3

2007-12-12 Thread William Stein
-- Forwarded message -- From: Cliff Sojourner <> Date: Dec 12, 2007 11:15 AM Subject: Re: SAGE trouble on RHL FC3 To: William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thanks for your quick reply! I will rebuild from source, if you don't hear anything then I got it to work :) we're already ta

[sage-support] Re: SAGE trouble on RHL FC3

2007-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Dec 12, 2007 10:44 AM, Cliff Sojourner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi, > > having trouble with google groups (it says I joined the sage-support group > but won't let me post anything to the list) - sorry to bother you. > > I'm eager to try SAGE so I downloaded > /sage-2.8.15-rhel-32bit-i686

[sage-support] Re: SAGE-2.8.15!

2007-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Dec 12, 2007 7:55 AM, Andrzej Giniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > tried to test it... but funny things, at first I wasn't able to > install any package... take a look at this: > > gcc -std=gnu99 -I/opt/sage/local/lib/r//include -I/opt/sage/local/lib/ > r//include -I/usr/local/include WARN

[sage-support] Re: non-english characters in Notebook

2007-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Dec 12, 2007 7:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I need to use non-english characters (in comments) in Notebook > worksheet. > While working, they're shown w/o problem, but if I save ("download to > file") worksheet, then close > SAGE, then open again and load

[sage-support] Re: Graphics updating?

2007-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Dec 12, 2007 8:16 AM, kcrisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Congratulations on the slashdotting! Amazing how many things get > verbed nowadays ;) > > All this publicity has led some of my colleagues to finally notice > SAGE, and one had a very nice question about whether it can do > everything

[sage-support] non-english characters in Notebook

2007-12-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all, I need to use non-english characters (in comments) in Notebook worksheet. While working, they're shown w/o problem, but if I save ("download to file") worksheet, then close SAGE, then open again and load .sws file, sometimes (!) I see just unicode codes (like %u4041) instead of my chars.

[sage-support] Graphics updating?

2007-12-12 Thread kcrisman
Congratulations on the slashdotting! Amazing how many things get verbed nowadays ;) All this publicity has led some of my colleagues to finally notice SAGE, and one had a very nice question about whether it can do everything MATLAB does. In particular, there was a real-time viewing of the 2-d I

[sage-support] Re: SAGE-2.8.15!

2007-12-12 Thread Andrzej Giniewicz
tried to test it... but funny things, at first I wasn't able to install any package... take a look at this: gcc -std=gnu99 -I/opt/sage/local/lib/r//include -I/opt/sage/local/lib/ r//include -I/usr/local/include WARNING: ignoring environment value of R_HOME -fvisibility=hidden -fpic -I/opt/sage

[sage-support] Re: Bessel argument order

2007-12-12 Thread Paul Zimmermann
> > even better would be to adopt a computational model such that all > > numerical computations can give only *one* correct result. Then you > > could simply compare to the expected result with utilities like "diff". > > That would be nice but isn't realistic, since Sage includes systems like >

[sage-support] Re: Bessel argument order

2007-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Dec 12, 2007 5:30 AM, Paul Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >sage: pari('2').besselk(3) # random > > > "Random" here doesn't mean what you think. [...] > > We really need to kill all of those and add "..." to account for the > > imprecision caused by different CPUs/operating sys

[sage-support] Re: Bessel argument order

2007-12-12 Thread Paul Zimmermann
> > > >sage: pari('2').besselk(3) # random > > "Random" here doesn't mean what you think. [...] > We really need to kill all of those and add "..." to account for the > imprecision caused by different CPUs/operating systems/compilers. even better would be to adopt a computational model such that

[sage-support] Re: Bessel argument order

2007-12-12 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 12, 11:50 am, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 12, 2007 3:20 AM, pgdoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > The description of Bessel_K functions in the Sage Cookbook is > > confusing about the order of the arguments. > >http://sagemath.org/doc/html/const/node96.ht

[sage-support] Re: auto-convert mathcad files to SAGE

2007-12-12 Thread David Joyner
On Dec 12, 2007 4:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm new to SAGE, but using it with growing enthusiasm :-) > Question: > I have a number of MathCad filed (*.mcd) that I'd like to convert to > SAGE. > Is there a way of doing this automatically? As far as I kn

[sage-support] Re: Bessel argument order

2007-12-12 Thread David Joyner
On Dec 12, 2007 3:20 AM, pgdoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The description of Bessel_K functions in the Sage Cookbook is > confusing about the order of the arguments. > http://sagemath.org/doc/html/const/node96.html > Here's what it says: > > >Here's an example using SAGE's interface to pari'

[sage-support] auto-convert mathcad files to SAGE

2007-12-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all, I'm new to SAGE, but using it with growing enthusiasm :-) Question: I have a number of MathCad filed (*.mcd) that I'd like to convert to SAGE. Is there a way of doing this automatically? Any info highly appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this

[sage-support] Bessel argument order

2007-12-12 Thread pgdoyle
The description of Bessel_K functions in the Sage Cookbook is confusing about the order of the arguments. http://sagemath.org/doc/html/const/node96.html Here's what it says: >Here's an example using SAGE's interface to pari's special functions. >sage: pari('2+I').besselk(3) >0.045590771840755058