[sage-devel] Re: number_field_element coercion

2007-11-09 Thread William Stein
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:07:03 -, John Voight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, somehow I knew this was going to become a trac ticket. It is > also my suspicion that it is an optimization issue with number > fields. It seems really bizarre that it should be calling a > polynomial ring const

[sage-devel] Re: sqrt mod p

2007-11-09 Thread William Stein
gt;>> [20, 160, 200, 340] > > > >>> sage: [x for x in R if x^2 == 40] # Brute force > > > >>> verification > > > >>> [20, 160, 200, 340] > > > >>> sage: R(1).sqrt(all=True) >

[sage-devel] My talk with martin Albrecht

2007-11-09 Thread William Stein
Hi everybody, The slides of Martin and my talk are available at http://sage.math.washington.edu/tmp/talk/. An accompanying SAGE worksheet can be found at http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/malb/SAGE_Demo.sws . Feedback is very welcome :-) William -- William Stein Associate

[sage-devel] Re: My talk with martin Albrecht

2007-11-10 Thread William Stein
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:27:45 -, John Voight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, I didn't know I was going to get quoted! (That's fine, of > course.) > > Are we suppose to write "SAGE" since it's an acronym or "Sage" like > you do? Write "Sage". There used to be an acronym, but the acronym no l

[sage-devel] Re: sqrt mod p

2007-11-10 Thread William Stein
> while p % 4 != 1: > p = next_prime(p+1) > > for i in range(0,n): > A[i] = GF(p).random_element() > > #print 'Original:' > #time X = go1(p) > #analyseResult(A,X,p) > > print 'Tonelli:' > time X = go2(p) > analyseResult(

[sage-devel] Re: ?Matrix

2007-11-10 Thread William Stein
function). > > If I change this line to > > import sage.rings as rings > > then Sage gives me a Unhandled SIGSEGV. > > Help, JV > > > > > > -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-

[sage-devel] Re: gdb, doctests, strange behavior...

2007-11-11 Thread William Stein
On Nov 11, 2007 9:06 PM, Robert Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm working on a new .pyx file, and everything has been working okay, > but something strange is now happening, and I can't quite get to the > bottom of it. > > Some side notes- I am running on OS X 10.5, a fresh install of > sage

[sage-devel] Re: gdb, doctests, strange behavior...

2007-11-12 Thread William Stein
gs=0xbf8f6b88) at Python/pythonrun.c:1271 > #27 0x080e2fa9 in PyRun_SimpleFileExFlags (fp=, > filename=0xbf8f739a ".doctest_binary_code.py", closeit=1, > flags=0xbf8f6b88) at Python/pythonrun.c:877 > #28 0x08056d0f in Py_Main (argc=1, argv=0xbf8f6c24) at Modules/main.c

[sage-devel] Re: cython __hash__ question

2007-11-12 Thread William Stein
On Nov 13, 2007 12:32 AM, Joel B. Mohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Questions: Should inheriting __hash__ implementations in a cython class work? Just a trivial remark, yes, it actually does work as the following simple example shows: {{{ %cython cdef class A: def __hash__(self):

[sage-devel] Re: plotQt.c with Qt 4.3.2 + GUI for pari/gp

2007-11-12 Thread William Stein
On Nov 13, 2007 1:35 AM, Téragone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm also working on a GUI for pari/gp. I started with mathGuide from which I > removed the Python plugin Wow, thanks for pointing out mathGuide, which I had never heard about before. Since this is in English, I translation of the web

[sage-devel] Re: plotQt.c with Qt 4.3.2 + GUI for pari/gp

2007-11-12 Thread William Stein
Perhaps a German speaker could look at http://www.math.uni-siegen.de/ring/mathGUIde and confirm this. William > > ++++++++ > > > On Nov 12, 2007 9:33 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Nov 13, 2007 1:35 AM, Téragone &

[sage-devel] another sage talk...

2007-11-14 Thread William Stein
http://sagemath.org/talks/20071114-sage_bristol/ -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group

[sage-devel] Re: trying to define a function and find an approximation

2007-11-15 Thread William Stein
On Nov 15, 2007 1:45 AM, Dan Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I discovered Sage recently and am very excited about it. In grad school, > I came to be very good with Mathematica, and am now doing a postdoc > where I only have access to (an old copy of) Maple. I like the idea of > having my math

[sage-devel] Re: trying to define a function and find an approximation

2007-11-15 Thread William Stein
On Nov 15, 2007 7:49 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > f := x -> integrate(exp(t^2), t=0..x); (Maple) > > evalf(f(2)); ... > > You can define that function and compute the integral in Sage as > follows: > > sage: assume(x > 0) &g

[sage-devel] Re: albums

2007-11-16 Thread William Stein
Hi, I've created a page on the wiki for photos from Sage Days 6: http://wiki.sagemath.org/days6/pictures If anybody posts photos online from the workshop, please put a link there. There are already hundreds of photos that Jaap Spies posted. -- William --~--~-~--~~--

[sage-devel] Re: Power series rings

2007-11-16 Thread William Stein
has no inverse if we require the exponents of x and y > > to be bounded away from negative infinity. > > David > > > > > > > > > > -- > John Cremona > > > > > -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wst

[sage-devel] Re: missing component

2007-11-16 Thread William Stein
On Nov 16, 2007 9:05 AM, Paul Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By the way I started translating my program to extend aliquot sequences from > MuPAD to SAGE. I figured out that the ECM.find_factor() and ECM.factor() > functions perform a full factorization. > > What I need is a function that

[sage-devel] Re: Error building sage in Solaris 10 with gcc 4.0.2

2007-11-16 Thread William Stein
e-trial: > > trial: not found > > However, an ERROR occurred in the Distributed SAGE unit tests. > > Testing SAGE documentation > > Testing SAGE tutorial > > /afs/nada.kth.se/pkg/sage/src/sage-2.8.12/local/bin/sage-maketest: > > /afs/nada.kth.se/pkg/sage/src/

[sage-devel] Re: Error building sage in Solaris 10 with gcc 4.0.2

2007-11-16 Thread William Stein
On Nov 15, 2007 4:31 PM, Michael Abshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > sgray:sage-2.8.12>./sage -testall > > This script will run the unit tests for DSage > > /afs/nada.kth.se/pkg/sage/src/sage-2.8.12/local/bin/sage-dsage-trial: > > line 17: trial: command not found > > However, an ERROR occu

[sage-devel] Re: Bug Day 6 proposal: Sat. Nov. 24th. 2007

2007-11-16 Thread William Stein
On Nov 16, 2007 1:57 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is the Thanksgiving weekend, and as such is probably > > significantly better or significantly worse for people living in > > America. For me, I will be traveling and not able to participate. > > > > Yep, Thanksgiving is cert

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE marketing

2007-11-16 Thread William Stein
information in one place instead of > having to crawl over sagemath.org to find them all. > > Fixing up sagemath.org, especially pages that are not the main > index.html, and updating information on the wiki is also something I > would consider to be part of marketing. We ca

[sage-devel] Re: interactive widgets in the notebook

2007-11-17 Thread William Stein
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:29:27 -0800, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been thinking about how to implement interactive widgets in the > notebook. Things like sliders, buttons, etc., that allow interactivity > like Maplets in Maple or the Manipulate command in Mathematica 6. > Here's a

[sage-devel] Re: Calculus in SAGE, motivations

2007-11-17 Thread William Stein
omething that > > makes sense and is good for SAGE. > > > > Yep. It might even make it possible to ship some "Sage not so light" > version specifically targeted at the high school/educational market if > we ever decide to do such a thing. > > > Ondrej

[sage-devel] Re: interactive widgets in the notebook

2007-11-17 Thread William Stein
:-) Hey Tom Boothby, shouldn't you chime up about now? William > Can we just attach a "widget" property to any object in Sage? That way > "a" could be, say, a number, but it would have a "a.widget" which would > encapsulate the necessary wi

[sage-devel] slashdot

2007-11-18 Thread William Stein
Hi, The top article on slashdot *right now* is about "Open Source Math Software" and my opinion piece in the Notices of the AMS: http://science.slashdot.org/science/07/11/18/1341232.shtml William -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washi

[sage-devel] Re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software

2007-11-18 Thread William Stein
On Nov 18, 2007 12:59 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Joyner and William Stein published an opinion piece in the > AMS Notices raising (yet again) the issue of mathematical results > that depend on closed source symbolic mathematics. They would like > to see open sou

[sage-devel] Re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software

2007-11-18 Thread William Stein
On Nov 18, 2007 3:49 PM, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One possible other source for funding is NIST (although the year that > I thought to apply they only had funding for prior project, no new > money available). > > An outstanding problem is that we have many different computer algebra > and

[sage-devel] Re: slashdot

2007-11-18 Thread William Stein
On Nov 18, 2007 6:06 PM, Ted Kosan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > William wrote: > > > The top article on slashdot *right now* is about "Open Source Math > > Software" and my opinion piece > > in the Notices of the AMS: > > > > http://science.slashdot.org/science/07/11/18/1341232.shtml > > Some

[sage-devel] Re: Maple?

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
On Nov 19, 2007 3:46 AM, D.J. Keenan <> wrote: > I just saw your opinion piece in Notices of the AMS. > Naturally I am wondering about Maple, which is (a) > Mathematica's main competitor and (b) very largely > open source. What is your opinion about using Maple? > (I use Maple, but have no affili

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: [Maxima] Interesting Comment re Mathematica vs Everybody Else

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
differences in that aspect between Mathematica, Maple, and Maxima > (depending on the GUI) are no big enough to say that Maxima plays in another > league. > > Best: > > > Miguel Marco Buzunariz > Departamento de Matematicas > Universidad de Zaragoza. > > __

[sage-devel] Re: Open source math on Slashdot

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
t; athttp://science.slashdot.org/science/07/11/18/1341232.shtml. I think > > > it'd be a good venue to get some Sage publicity in. > > > > --Mike > > > -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~

[sage-devel] Re: Open source math on Slashdot

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
On Nov 18, 2007 9:37 AM, Mike Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just noticed that there is an article on the front page of slashdot > about William and David's AMS opinion piece at > http://science.slashdot.org/science/07/11/18/1341232.shtml . I think > it'd be a good venue to get some Sage p

[sage-devel] Re: Maple?

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
On Nov 19, 2007 8:29 AM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > William Stein wrote: > > > 3. Dumb question -- Where is the actual source code of anything in Maple? > > I'm skimming through my Maple install to see some actual source code > > and &g

[sage-devel] Re: Maple?

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
On Nov 19, 2007 8:57 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 3. Dumb question -- Where is the actual source code of anything in Maple? > > > I'm skimming through my Maple install to see some actual source code > > > and > > >

[sage-devel] Re: Maple?

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
On Nov 19, 2007 9:20 AM, somebody defending Maple wrote: > William, > > There are two ways to see the source code in Maple: > eval(procname); > and > showstat(procname); > Before doing that, it is usually necessary to change the > interface setting for displaying library procedures: >

[sage-devel] Re: Projects

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
On Nov 19, 2007 9:38 AM, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 19, 2007 12:21 PM, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > at Sage Days 6 Stefan Müller-Stach > > > >http://hodge.mathematik.uni-mainz.de/~stefan/index.html > > > > babelfish translation: >

[sage-devel] Re: Projects

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
On Nov 19, 2007 9:49 AM, John Cremona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My suggestion for such a project is: compute all the S-integral > points on an elliptic curve (which is a finite set, for any given > finie set of primes S). First, over Q (assume that you are given a > Mordell-Weil basis), whi

[sage-devel] Re: Sage math app

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
On Nov 19, 2007 10:44 AM, <> wrote: > I wanted to commend you for leading Sage. I think it is a great idea > to combine all the open source math apps out there into a unified whole. Thanks! > I'm curious about your integration component. I believe I read you > were using Maxima but were inter

[sage-devel] Re: Maple?

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
On Nov 19, 2007 10:52 AM, Stephen Forrest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So you have to pay extra for the comments! Wow. That's truly bizarre. > > Hmm, I am a former Maplesoft employee, and I have never, ever heard of > the source code being available for reading for an extra price. I am > not

[sage-devel] Re: Sage math app

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
On Nov 19, 2007 11:02 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 10:49:52AM -0800, William Stein wrote: > > > Perhaps making a syntax compatible with Mathematica's?? > > > > No, that's definitely not planned. > > > > William

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.8.13.alpha1 is out!

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
Hi, On OSX ppc the sage alpha1 build fails with this. Unfortunately, I can't work on fixing this since I have committee work to do right now. If we can't fix this, a reasonable option is to just comment out building the cremona code in setup.py for now, and put some nodoctests in the top of th

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.8.13.alpha1 is out!

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
e: g / f > > > + sage: g // f > > > 9 81 432 1404 2928 4486 4880 3900 2000 625 > > > sage: f^4 > > > 9 81 432 1404 2928 4486 4880 3900 2000 625 > > > > > So, any idea why we need "//"

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.8.13.alpha1 is out!

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
running OS X 10.5, i.e., bsd.math.washington.edu. If you want to try building and testing FLINT on it, let me know off list and I'll create an account for you. > > Bill. > > On 20 Nov, 02:38, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 19, 2007 5:13 PM, Bill Hart <

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.8.13.alpha1 is out!

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
ally it returns the same thing as what Magma returns when > you type f div g. It's a kind of normalised division, which just > happens to be the quotient when the division is exact. That's like integer division in python, where: >>>

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.8.13.alpha1 is out!

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
On Nov 19, 2007 7:46 PM, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some kind of compiler bug. I've made changes in rev 1072 of FLINT > which should fix the problem. If not, we'll have to wait for Mabshoff > to awaken. I've no other ideas, so there's no point in setting me up > with an account on the

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.8.13.alpha1 is out! -- g95 and OSX Leopard

2007-11-19 Thread William Stein
asily close trac #1005!! NOTE - I also tested cvxopt building, and it works fine too. -- Wiliam On Nov 19, 2007 7:56 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 19, 2007 7:46 PM, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some kind of compiler bug. I've ma

[sage-devel] Re: ModularSymbols(GammaH)

2007-11-20 Thread William Stein
# Let rels = rels union I relations. > > /home/was/s/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sage/modular/modsym/relation_matrix.py > in modS_relations(syms) > 99 for i in xrange(len(syms)): > 100 j, s = syms.apply_S(i) > --> 101 assert j != -1 > 102

[sage-devel] Re: Sage math app

2007-11-20 Thread William Stein
On Nov 20, 2007 11:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As to syntax, I think in Python we could use: > > >>> integrate(cos(x), (x, -pi/2, pi/2)) > > Because then you can > > use the syntax: > > > > integrate(cos(x*y), (x, -pi/2, pi/2), (y, 0, pi)) > > > > for multiple integral

[sage-devel] Re: Pairing

2007-11-21 Thread William Stein
On Nov 21, 2007 8:17 AM, Steffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, I needed some calculation period benchmark for pairings. I could > not find anything build in, but the following implementation solved my > problem: > > http://maths.straylight.co.uk/archives/104 Thanks! I've made adding this to

[sage-devel] Re: ArithmeticError

2007-11-21 Thread William Stein
1784 return self.__torsion_subgroup >1785 > > /usr/local/sage-2.8.12/sage/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sage/schemes/elliptic_curves/rational_torsion.py > in __init__(self, E, flag) > 54 G = self.__E.pari_curve().elltors(flag) > 55

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.8.13.alpha1 is out! -- g95 and OSX Leopard

2007-11-21 Thread William Stein
On Nov 19, 2007 11:49 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 20, 6:12 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I just did a test and using the new version of g95 here: > > > >http://ftp.g95.org/g95-x86-osx

[sage-devel] Re: Projects

2007-11-21 Thread William Stein
hange the title of the link to Sage on the "python math lab" webpage from " SAGE: System for Arithmetic Geometry Experimentation, a CAS developed by William Stein et.al." to " SAGE: Open Source Mathematical Software, a Python-based CAS developed by William Stein et al.&

[sage-devel] is anybody interesting lie groups, etc.

2007-11-21 Thread William Stein
tion. This will be straightened out soon.)" So is anybody interested in thinking through how this could perhaps be made a standard and useful part of Sage? Let me know. -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~

[sage-devel] Re: Projects

2007-11-21 Thread William Stein
On Nov 21, 2007 11:16 AM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a project that I have meant to tackle myself, but I doubt I > will have time to do it for at least a year, so someone can beat me to > it (just let me know!): > > Write a parallellized (DSage!) algorithm/implementation to com

[sage-devel] SAGE-2.8.13 released!

2007-11-21 Thread William Stein
Weinmann - Robert Bradshaw - William Stein - Willem Jan Palenstijn Sorry if I forgot anybody, it has been quite a turbulent release cycle. Thanks to all the reviewers, all the testers, especially Jaap Spies, and please send me patches for the doctest failures. Cheers, Michael Abshoff (release

[sage-devel] Re: abelian groups

2007-11-22 Thread William Stein
re > complicated to implement but the essence of what you want seems simple enough > conceptually. Instead of creating the ParentWithOutGens, maybe just go back > into > sage.structure.parent.Parent? > > In your example of an elliptic curve, it is possible that you do have >

[sage-devel] Re: abelian groups

2007-11-22 Thread William Stein
On Nov 22, 2007 7:31 AM, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You should make an AbstractAbelianGroup class that derives from > > ParentWithBase. > > Hmmm but wouldn't it make more sense for AbelianGroup (i.e. the > currently implemented one) to derive from AbstractAbelianGroup? Yes, i

[sage-devel] Re: please wait less than a minute -> please wait around 6 minutes

2007-11-22 Thread William Stein
/ondra/ext/sage-2.8.13-i686-Linux/local/bin/sage-sage: line 149: > 6136 Alarm clock "$SAGE_ROOT/local/bin/"sage-location > > Automatically updating the cached Gap workspace: > /home/ondra/.sage//gap/workspace-468476148 > sage: > Exiting SAGE (CPU time 0m0.01s,

[sage-devel] Re: sage on sagemath

2007-11-22 Thread William Stein
On Nov 22, 2007 5:20 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > : libcsage.so: cannot open shared > > object file: No such file or directory > > > > > > So I think it's better to build it from source, right? > > libcsage.so is missing in the binary, "sage -b" fixes that. That's very weird. In

[sage-devel] Re: Banner not updated

2007-11-22 Thread William Stein
ot; correctly > returns 2.8.13. > > sage: version() > 'SAGE Version 2.8.13, Release Date: 2007-11-21' > > Details: OS X, version 10.4.10/Core Duo 2/original version of sage > 2.7.1, upgraded several times. > > Best, >

[sage-devel] Re: [Sage-announce] SAGE-2.8.13 released!

2007-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Nov 23, 2007 8:18 PM, Justin C. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is all really weird since I fully tested building Sage-2.8.13 on > > OSX 10.4 intel and OSX 10.5 intel (both core duo and Xeon), > > and didn't have any problems at all. So the problem could > > be with... ... > I repo

[sage-devel] Re: Maple?

2007-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Nov 22, 2007 11:16 AM, a concerned Maple user and AMS reader wrote: > William, > > Most Maple source code is open for inspection, as well as modification and > extension. Hence the code is "open source". Maplesoft sometimes uses that > term, I and believe they are correct in doing so. Having

[sage-devel] Re: singular factorize *slow*

2007-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Nov 23, 2007 2:41 PM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wall time: 0.02 > > sage: time w = tt.Factorization() > > CPU times: user 0.00 s, sys: 0.00 s, total: 0.00 s > > Wall time: 0.01 > > sage: time w = tt.Factorization() > > CPU times: user 0.00 s, sys: 0.00 s, total: 0.00 s > > Wa

[sage-devel] Re: singular factorize *slow*

2007-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Nov 23, 2007 7:15 AM, Joel B. Mohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 07:08:02AM -0800, mabshoff wrote: > > Hello Joel, > > > > > I'm also posting this > > > athttp://www.singular.uni-kl.de/forum/viewforum.php?f=10 > > > as soon as I get registered on the forum. > > > > >

[sage-devel] Re: Banner not updated

2007-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Nov 22, 2007 7:59 PM, Nathan Dunfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try doing > > > > sage: hg_scripts.merge() > > sage: hg_scripts.commit() > > > > and answer any interactive questions. ... > If I follow the suggestion of .merge() I get > > sage: hg_scripts.update() > cd "/pkgs/sage-2.7.1/loc

[sage-devel] Re: [Sage-announce] SAGE-2.8.13 released!

2007-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Nov 23, 2007 3:58 PM, Justin C. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello folks, > > > > Sage 2.8.13 has been released. Sources are and binaries should soon be > > available at > > > > http://sagemath.org/download.html > > I did a full build of 2.8.13 on two systems: > > Mac OS

[sage-devel] Re: request for testing of new flint.spkg

2007-11-24 Thread William Stein
On Nov 24, 2007 8:36 AM, Joel B. Mohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 23 November 2007 22:46, mabshoff wrote: > > Bill has fixed a couple of bugs in flint since r1072 that were corner > > cases that only happened on Core Duos, so I have updated the spkg to > > r1075. It is available at

[sage-devel] Re: request for testing of new flint.spkg

2007-11-24 Thread William Stein
z_poly.c:222: error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@~Y undeclared (first use in this > > function) > > fmpz_poly.c:222: error: expected [EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED] before > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@~Y > > make: *** [fmpz_poly.o] Error 1 > > Error building flint shared library. > >

[sage-devel] Re: request for testing of new flint.spkg

2007-11-24 Thread William Stein
On Nov 24, 2007 4:24 PM, Paul Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fortunately, it's close enough to the MIT license, that if you pointed > > these flaws out to him, he might change. > > Yeah, I did fly by night thing. What I wanted was to put companies > like SCO into legal trouble if they atte

[sage-devel] Re: sage - good stuff

2007-11-24 Thread William Stein
On Nov 24, 2007 3:22 AM, Hans Fangohr <> wrote: > I have just come across your SAGE project, and just wanted to > congratulate on it (don't waste time to reply). I, too, believe that > Python is the right interface for this kind of thing. (So we have > developed a big numerical simulation (mostly

[sage-devel] Re: sage - good stuff

2007-11-24 Thread William Stein
Ondrej: > > Povray is not open source (so it has to be in Debian non-free), so I > > don't think SAGE should depend on or use povray. Ondrej, thanks for sharing your opinion. Boothby: > Sage doesn't need to distribute / depend upon non-free software. > However, it does have interfaces to lots of

[sage-devel] pyx

2007-11-24 Thread William Stein
Thanks! And thanks again for a great Python library. -- William -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsu

[sage-devel] Re: [IPython-dev] Fwd: [sage-support] Re: install problem with pickleshare

2007-11-24 Thread William Stein
On Nov 24, 2007 8:29 PM, Fernando Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 17, 2007 11:47 PM, Ville M. Vainio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perhaps this is due to sys.path not containing Extensions yet for some > > reason (I'm not aware why this is not a problem on my box). > > > > To get over i

[sage-devel] Re: [IPython-dev] Fwd: [sage-support] Re: install problem with pickleshare

2007-11-24 Thread William Stein
On Nov 24, 2007 11:22 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 24, 2007 8:29 PM, Fernando Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 17, 2007 11:47 PM, Ville M. Vainio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Perhaps this is due to sys.path

[sage-devel] Re: pyx

2007-11-25 Thread William Stein
On Nov 25, 2007 4:06 AM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 25, 2007 5:19 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Some of the Sage developers are considering including Pyx > > (http://pyx.sourceforge

[sage-devel] Re: Talk about SAGE at Les Trophees du Libre 2007 competition

2007-11-25 Thread William Stein
On Nov 25, 2007 11:52 AM, David Roe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have to agree. The slide where you list p-adic numbers, p-adic > L-functions and p-adic height pairings kinda jumped out at me. While I'm > obviously interested in that kind of stuff, it won't appeal as much to a > non-specialist

[sage-devel] Re: Sage: preparsing R. and ticket 1135

2007-11-25 Thread William Stein
On Nov 25, 2007 12:13 PM, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi William, > > I've been thinking about > > http://sagetrac.org/sage_trac/ticket/1135 > > for about 2 days now. I can think of no obvious way to handle the > following three cases: > > R. = PolynomialRing(ZZ) # names should be

[sage-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software

2007-11-25 Thread William Stein
On Nov 25, 2007 2:14 PM, C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Third, even if the NSF funded SAGE, how would those funds benefit the > >> various subprojects like Axiom? Open source is mostly volunteer work > >> done in "spare time". While it is amusing to daydream of being paid to > >> develop open

[sage-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software

2007-11-25 Thread William Stein
On Nov 25, 2007 7:54 PM, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Third, even if the NSF funded SAGE, how would those funds benefit the > >> >> various subprojects like Axiom? Open source is mostly volunteer work > >> >> done in "spare time". While it is amusing to daydream of being paid to > >> >>

[sage-devel] Re: patch for SymPy <--> SAGE conversion, please review

2007-11-25 Thread William Stein
On Nov 25, 2007 6:33 PM, David Roe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Addition not commuting there bothers me. I can see why it's happening: a > SymPy object doesn't call into the coercion system. One possible solution > is to have coercion map sage objects into sympy, so both s+o and o+s (in > line 1

[sage-devel] doctest timing

2007-11-25 Thread William Stein
Hi, Willem Jan Palenstijn created a clever system for timing each and every doctest. This is now trac #1276: http://sagetrac.org/sage_trac/ticket/1276 I hope somebody will try it out and perhaps make it so adding it to sage is as simple as me or Michael applying a patch :-). -- William

[sage-devel] flint build failure on itanium linux w/ gcc-4.2.1

2007-11-25 Thread William Stein
(nil) (nil)) ZmodF_mul.c:656: internal compiler error: in get_attr_first_insn, at config/ia64/itanium2.md:1839 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions. make: *** [ZmodF_mul.o] Error 1 -- William Stein Associate Profes

[sage-devel] Re: flint build failure on itanium linux w/ gcc-4.2.1

2007-11-25 Thread William Stein
On Nov 25, 2007 9:52 PM, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a compiler bug which we've seen before. On Itanium the build > should not be using the -funroll-loops flag. > > I guess we need to check for ia64 when setting the compiler flags? The culprit is this line, which is now in pa

[sage-devel] R Statistics Package into Sage !?

2007-11-25 Thread William Stein
r.t_test(range(100)) CPU times: user 1.97 s, sys: 0.12 s, total: 2.08 s Wall time: 2.09 {'alternative': 'two.sided', 'conf.int': [499433.7061652476, 500565.2938347524], 'data.name': '0:99', 'estimate': {'mean of x&

[sage-devel] Re: flint build failure on itanium linux w/ gcc-4.2.1

2007-11-25 Thread William Stein
On Nov 25, 2007 10:01 PM, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does uname -m yield ia64? If so I'll add this to the latest revision > of FLINT. I think currently it only checks for AIX. Yes, uname -m yields ia64. But the problem is entirely in sloppiness with sage's packaging for itanium (i.

[sage-devel] Re: R Statistics Package into Sage !?

2007-11-25 Thread William Stein
On Nov 25, 2007 10:07 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Hansen and I have put some work into making it possible to very > easily use R from Sage, and are > even maybe considering including R in Sage.This is very likely > definitely not ready yet

[sage-devel] Fwd: Compiling sage-2.8.14 on Opensuse-10.2

2007-11-25 Thread William Stein
: Compiling sage-2.8.14 on Opensuse-10.2 To: William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is just to let you know that compilation of sage fails on OpenSuse-10.2 since version 2.8.13( version 2.8.12 compiles ok). Here is the relevant part of install.log: gcc -std=c99 -I/windows/C/apps/sage-2.

[sage-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software

2007-11-25 Thread William Stein
On Nov 26, 2007 12:20 AM, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> Third, even if the NSF funded SAGE, how would those funds benefit the > ...[snip]... > >> Either the initial grant had principal investigators at different > >> schools (or one of the PIs moved), or a visiting scientist arrangemen

[sage-devel] Re: An error occurred while installing cremona-20071116.p0

2007-11-26 Thread William Stein
g gcc-4.2.3, which sage-2.8.13 doesn't support. *Fortunately* we just released sage-2.8.14, which does support gcc-4.2.x: http://sagemath.org/dist/src > > > > -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~--

[sage-devel] Re: pyx

2007-11-26 Thread William Stein
On Nov 26, 2007 3:04 AM, Joerg Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > On 24.11.07, William Stein wrote: > > Some of the Sage developers are considering including Pyx > > (http://pyx.sourceforge.net/) > > in Sage (http://sagemath.org).One issue is

[sage-devel] Re: patch for SymPy <--> SAGE conversion, please review

2007-11-26 Thread William Stein
On Nov 26, 2007 6:34 AM, Joel B. Mohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, if I had to pick a nasty point to sage I would agree that it's huge-ness > is seriously annoying. The slow import of "sage.all" really kills the > pleasure for writing python programs which you want to use from bash, but I

[sage-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software

2007-11-26 Thread William Stein
On Nov 26, 2007 10:01 AM, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ==> Ed Borasky writes: > >> There is nothing particularly special about mathematics software that > >> makes it winning in a similar sense impossible, as much as Wolfram > >> would argue that (as he often used to do in interviews I've re

[sage-devel] Re: patch for SymPy <--> SAGE conversion, please review

2007-11-26 Thread William Stein
On Nov 26, 2007 1:11 PM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > exactly what I need, but fortnuately, this will improve, > when SAGE becomes more famous, and more people like Michael Abshoff > are going to join. I am looking forward to a time, > when I do in Debian: > > $ apt-get install sage

[sage-devel] Re: An error occurred while installing cremona-20071116.p0

2007-11-26 Thread William Stein
On Nov 26, 2007 1:11 PM, fwc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dortmund.de> wrote: > > this bothered me enough to finally investiagte. So far I found out: > > > > * this is an issue only on OSX 10.4, OSX 10.5 is not effected > > * It isn't the gmp's fault, but libntl.dynlib hardcodes the path to > >

[sage-devel] Re: patch for SymPy <--> SAGE conversion, please review

2007-11-26 Thread William Stein
On Nov 26, 2007 7:51 PM, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 26, 2007, at 2:04 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > >> > >> I still think _verify_canonical_coercion_c is the wrong thing to use > >> here, there is no reason that x._sage_() and y._sage_() should have > >> the same parent (

[sage-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software

2007-11-26 Thread William Stein
On Nov 26, 2007 8:06 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > root wrote: > > The NSF, INRIA, and others cover it. > > These are the same people who won't fund Axiom because "it competes > > with commercial software". Which shows that they don't understand > > that Axiom is NOT tryi

[sage-devel] cherrypy

2007-11-26 Thread William Stein
ical examples which can be pasted into a notebook cell like above, you might want to post some to this thread. -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send

[sage-devel] Re: implementation of Rencontres numbers

2007-11-27 Thread William Stein
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[sage-devel] Re: implementation of Rencontres numbers

2007-11-27 Thread William Stein
5 924 315 70 21 0 1 > 14833 14832 7420 2464 630 112 28 0 1 > 133496 133497 66744 22260 5544 1134 168 36 0 1 > 1334961 1334960 667485 222480 55650 11088 1890 240 45 0 1 > 14684570 14684571 7342280 2447445 611820 122430 20328 2970 330 55 0 1 > }}} > > {{{id=4| > derangements(0,0)

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Ticket #799 (alleged Tachyon bug)

2007-11-28 Thread William Stein
r(self._center), > # >tostr(self._rotate), > #tostr(self._scale)) > # new code: > return """%s center %s rotate %s scale %s"""%(tostr(self._type), > # <-- string >

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