Re: [sage-devel] Re: Apparent inconsistency between doctoring and behavior of module-related functions

2012-12-19 Thread John Cremona
On 19 December 2012 03:16, P Purkayastha wrote: > > It is consistent with whatever A.ambient_vector_space() is doing. There is > even a doctest: > > sage: M = ZZ^3; > sage: V = M.ambient_vector_space(); V > Vector space of dimension 3 over Rational Field > > Since th

[sage-devel] Removing Python Unladen Swallow experimental package

2012-12-19 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
I am refering to the package http://www.sagemath.org/packages/experimental/python-unladen-2009Q2.spkg I assume this is Python Unladen Swallow (even though SPKG.txt doesn't mention this), which is a dead project since 3 years. So I propose to remove this package, please reply any objections. In an

Re: [sage-devel] How to proceed to reduce Sage's memory leaking?

2012-12-19 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Just when I thought the #715 + #11521 issues were fixed in sage-5.5.rc1... Apparently, sage-5.6.beta0 has uncovered a new problem: with the current sage-5.6.beta0, I get the following reproducible segfault on hawk (OpenSolaris i386): > sage -t --long -force_lib devel/sage/sage/modules/module.pyx

Re: [sage-devel] Apparent inconsistency between doctoring and behavior of module-related functions

2012-12-19 Thread Charles Bouillaguet
On Dec 19, 2012, at 4:16 AM, P Purkayastha wrote: > On 12/19/2012 12:28 AM, Charles Bouillaguet wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> There seems to be an inconsistency between the docstrings and the actual >> behavior of some module-related methods. For instance, I am surprised by the >> behavior of the coo

Re: [sage-devel] How to update prereq spkg/script

2012-12-19 Thread Andrea Lazzarotto
2012/12/18 kcrisman > if [ -a "/standard/path/to/Cygwin/lib/or/program.dll" ] ; then > > with a whole bunch of "ands"? Or is there some better way to do this? > Wouldn't it be a lot better to use e.g. "which make" and see if you get a path, then do e.g. "make -v" to read the version number? Be

Re: [sage-devel] Apparent inconsistency between doctoring and behavior of module-related functions

2012-12-19 Thread John Cremona
On 19 December 2012 10:49, Charles Bouillaguet wrote: > On Dec 19, 2012, at 4:16 AM, P Purkayastha wrote: > >> On 12/19/2012 12:28 AM, Charles Bouillaguet wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> There seems to be an inconsistency between the docstrings and the actual >>> behavior of some module-related method

[sage-devel] Remove OpenSolaris x86 from "fully supported" platforms

2012-12-19 Thread Volker Braun
* OpenSolaris has been dead for many years now * No such machine on Skynet, many developers don't have access (I don't) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. To unsubscrib

Re: [sage-devel] How to proceed to reduce Sage's memory leaking?

2012-12-19 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:16:50 AM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > Just when I thought the #715 + #11521 issues were fixed in sage-5.5.rc1... > > Apparently, sage-5.6.beta0 has uncovered a new problem: with the current > sage-5.6.beta0, I get the following reproducible segfault on haw

[sage-devel] Re: Apparent inconsistency between doctoring and behavior of module-related functions

2012-12-19 Thread P Purkayastha
On 12/19/2012 07:44 PM, John Cremona wrote: On 19 December 2012 10:49, Charles Bouillaguet wrote: On Dec 19, 2012, at 4:16 AM, P Purkayastha wrote: On 12/19/2012 12:28 AM, Charles Bouillaguet wrote: Hi all, There seems to be an inconsistency between the docstrings and the actual behavior o

[sage-devel] Re: Remove OpenSolaris x86 from "fully supported" platforms

2012-12-19 Thread P Purkayastha
Is there anyone in the Sage community who uses OpenSolaris, or any other variant? On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:44:58 PM UTC+8, Volker Braun wrote: > > * OpenSolaris has been dead for many years now > * No such machine on Skynet, many developers don't have access (I don't) > > -- You receiv

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Remove OpenSolaris x86 from "fully supported" platforms

2012-12-19 Thread David Kirkby
On 19 December 2012 17:39, P Purkayastha wrote: > Is there anyone in the Sage community who uses OpenSolaris, or any other > variant? Yes, I do. Many Sage developers have access to my OpenSolaris machine - if anyone else wants one, they can have it. The buildbot uses OpenSolaris, so I personall

Re: [sage-devel] Remove OpenSolaris x86 from "fully supported" platforms

2012-12-19 Thread David Kirkby
On 19 December 2012 12:44, Volker Braun wrote: > * OpenSolaris has been dead for many years now > * No such machine on Skynet, many developers don't have access (I don't) Open Indiana is based on the OpenSolaris source, and there is a stong simularity between Solaris and OpenSolaris. If you want

Re: [sage-devel] Remove OpenSolaris x86 from "fully supported" platforms

2012-12-19 Thread Volker Braun
On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:51:25 PM UTC, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > Open Indiana is based on the OpenSolaris source, and there is a stong > simularity between Solaris and OpenSolaris. I don't mind OpenIndiana, in fact I'm compiling Sage on it right now. We definitely need better instructio

[sage-devel] Re: Remove OpenSolaris x86 from "fully supported" platforms

2012-12-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2012-12-19, P Purkayastha wrote: > --=_Part_764_937810.1355938788856 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Is there anyone in the Sage community who uses OpenSolaris, or any other > variant? there are two people that I can think of as OpenSolaris Sage users: Jaap Spies and Da

[sage-devel] Re: Remove OpenSolaris x86 from "fully supported" platforms

2012-12-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2012-12-19, Volker Braun wrote: > --=_Part_747_12972659.1355940087469 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:51:25 PM UTC, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: >> Open Indiana is based on the OpenSolaris source,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Remove OpenSolaris x86 from "fully supported" platforms

2012-12-19 Thread David Kirkby
On 19 December 2012 18:07, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > Volker, > Right, it would be good if you look at it, as I often can't even connect > to David's machine - too far from Singapore... > > Dima The reason you could not connect an hour or so ago could be due to the fact there was a power failure.

Re: [sage-devel] Remove OpenSolaris x86 from "fully supported" platforms

2012-12-19 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Another reason to support as much platforms as possible (even dead platforms) is that it helps porting in general. If you support 10 quite different systems, it is quite likely that the 11th system also works. It's happened several times before that doctest failures on obscure systems were caused b

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 5.4 on ARM

2012-12-19 Thread tom d
Hey, yo; I'm experimenting with building Sage on the Raspberry Pi. It apparently has an ARM6 processor, so I'm running from scratch. I ran into problems building libm4rie as well (and also on building conversion.c); it would start running and then after about 20 minutes the device would freez

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage 5.4 on ARM

2012-12-19 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 19/12/2012 21:52, tom d a écrit : I'm experimenting with building Sage on the Raspberry Pi. It apparently has an ARM6 processor, so I'm running from scratch. I ran into problems building libm4rie as well (and also on building conversion.c); it would start running and then after about 20 minute

Re: [sage-devel] Remove OpenSolaris x86 from "fully supported" platforms

2012-12-19 Thread Volker Braun
I fail to see what we can learn from a platform that ships a gcc version that is too old to compile libz, for example. Except that its frustrating to manually bring up a toolchain and the importance of a working package management system to keep your unix flavor alive. Dead platforms are, at th

Re: [sage-devel] Remove OpenSolaris x86 from "fully supported" platforms

2012-12-19 Thread Volker Braun
And while I'm venting, who decided to install libgfortran in a directory that is not searched by gfortran by default. I'm looking at you, Open Indiana. You don't compile fortran code much? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To post

Re: [sage-devel] Remove OpenSolaris x86 from "fully supported" platforms

2012-12-19 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-12-19 22:52, Volker Braun wrote: > Most issues will just be braindamage that goes to show why the > dead platform was abandoned in the first place. Sometimes yes, but these issues are usual trivial to fix. But as I said in my previous post, sometimes we do find true bugs by testing on diffe

Re: [sage-devel] Apparent inconsistency between doctoring and behavior of module-related functions

2012-12-19 Thread Charles Bouillaguet
On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:44 PM, John Cremona wrote: --- Charles Bouillaguet http://www.lifl.fr/~bouillaguet/ > I suggest adding to the documentation of A.coordinates() that it works > also if the given element is in the ambient space, with an example of > that. In concrete terms you need the el

Re: [sage-devel] Remove OpenSolaris x86 from "fully supported" platforms

2012-12-19 Thread Volker Braun
On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:47:51 PM UTC, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > For example, I'm not convinced that the GAP problem > is OpenSolaris braindamage. > If its not then its quite certain that it would also appear on OpenIndiana. Which has some developer community and updates and source cod

[sage-devel] Re: Remove OpenSolaris x86 from "fully supported" platforms

2012-12-19 Thread P Purkayastha
On 12/20/2012 08:33 AM, Volker Braun wrote: On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:47:51 PM UTC, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: For example, I'm not convinced that the GAP problem is OpenSolaris braindamage. If its not then its quite certain that it would also appear on OpenIndiana. Which has some