Re: [sage-devel] Re: Random banter about Sage standards

2010-08-29 Thread Tim Daly
tl;dr old curmudgeon flaming on about the dead past, not "getting it" about Sage. Robert Bradshaw wrote: In terms of the general rant, there are two points I'd like to make. The first is that there's a distinction between the Sage library itself and the many other spkgs we ship. By far the ma

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Random banter about Sage standards

2010-08-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 08/29/10 07:07 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dr. David Kirkby There have been many reports of where doctests fail when running make ptest or make ptestlong which later pass if run individually. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen that reported,

[sage-devel] Arithmetic subgroups (comparison and method names)

2010-08-29 Thread Vincent D
Hello, I'm working on arithmetic subgroup in sage.modular.arithgroup especially on arithgroup_perm, and I do not know what does the method __cmp__ must do (it is not specified in sage.groups.group.Group where I guess it is the right place): * equality and inclusions? In this case, the given imp

[sage-devel] Re: Trying to use desolve_system

2010-08-29 Thread ma...@mendelu.cz
On 27 srp, 18:49, Ryan Hinton wrote: > I split these problems into three tickets, now trac #9823, #9824, and > #9825.  My knowledge and need are not great enough for me to dig into > these at the moment, but at least they are in the system now. :-) > > - Ryan Thanks for making the report. I su

Re: [sage-devel] Arithmetic subgroups (comparison and method names)

2010-08-29 Thread Alex Ghitza
Hi, On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 10:02:05 -0700 (PDT), Vincent D <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm working on arithmetic subgroup in sage.modular.arithgroup > especially on arithgroup_perm, and I do not know what does the method > __cmp__ must do (it is not specified in sage.groups.group.Group whe

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Random banter about Sage standards

2010-08-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 08/29/10 09:56 AM, Tim Daly wrote: tl;dr old curmudgeon flaming on about the dead past, not "getting it" about Sage. Robert Bradshaw wrote: In terms of the general rant, there are two points I'd like to make. The first is that there's a distinction between the Sage library itself and the m

[sage-devel] Re: Random banter about Sage standards

2010-08-29 Thread Bill Hart
Why is this entire thread not on sage-flame? What does software engineering, documentation, test code, etc. have to do with "Creating a viable free open source alternative to Magma, Maple, Mathematica and Matlab."? I found the entire thread really amusing. I would parody the hell out of it, but th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Random banter about Sage standards

2010-08-29 Thread Tim Daly
Bill Hart wrote: Why is this entire thread not on sage-flame? What does software engineering, documentation, test code, etc. have to do with "Creating a viable free open source alternative to Magma, Maple, Mathematica and Matlab."? Despite what appears to be competitive badgering I really do

[sage-devel] test suites for Sage

2010-08-29 Thread Minh Nguyen
This is a split off from the thread "Random banter about Sage standards" at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/c80b87648c213c5 Hi Tim, On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Tim Daly wrote: > For *standard test suites*, I believe we should have these in many > different a

[sage-devel] Re: Random banter about Sage standards

2010-08-29 Thread Bill Hart
On 30 Aug, 03:09, Tim Daly wrote: > Bill Hart wrote: > > Why is this entire thread not on sage-flame? What does software > > engineering, documentation, test code, etc. have to do with "Creating > > a viable free open source alternative to Magma, Maple, Mathematica and > > Matlab."? > > Despite

[sage-devel] Re: test suites for Sage

2010-08-29 Thread Tim Daly
I am working on 2 new test suites. One involves the Rubi test suite using patterns for integration. This is a very large test suite, well over 9000 integrals. I have created test cases for Axiom but not yet written the rule-based integration patterns. I'll move them into the CATS area in the near

[sage-devel] Re: test suites for Sage

2010-08-29 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Tim, On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Tim Daly wrote: > Tim (somebody, I can't find his name) was going to try the > CATS integration test suite in Sage. It should be rather easy > as Sage uses Maxima and the syntax is very close. I don't > know what became of that effort. I don't recall read

[sage-devel] State of the Windows port of pexpect?

2010-08-29 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, for IPython I found myself this weekend writing some pexpect-based code, and I recall that in the past, Sage has looked into ways of getting pexpect to run under Windows platforms. Robert Kern pointed me to this: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/goreckc/sage/wexpect/ but it doesn'

Re: [sage-devel] Re: test suites for Sage

2010-08-29 Thread Tim Lahey
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi Tim, > > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Tim Daly wrote: >> Tim (somebody, I can't find his name) was going to try the >> CATS integration test suite in Sage. It should be rather easy >> as Sage uses Maxima and the syntax is very close. I

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Random banter about Sage standards

2010-08-29 Thread David Kirkby
On 30 August 2010 01:41, Bill Hart wrote: > Why is this entire thread not on sage-flame? What does software > engineering, documentation, test code, etc. have to do with "Creating > a viable free open source alternative to Magma, Maple, Mathematica and > Matlab."? Everything! Correct software en