[sage-devel] Re: Vote on making GNU patch a standard package

2010-07-02 Thread Adam Webb
On Jul 2, 8:01 am, David Kirkby wrote: > On 1 July 2010 20:25, Mike Hansen wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:05 PM, David Kirkby > > wrote: > >> I don't understand your proposal. Would it need the patch command > >> added to Sage? I don't understand your method, so can't comment > >>

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote on making GNU patch a standard package

2010-07-02 Thread drkirkby
On Jul 2, 2010 8:02am, Adam Webb wrote: I felt that the important part of the proposal was the use of patches. Yes. I don't know if there will really be a lot of space saved but I think that is less important. Agreed. But the point I would make is that just removing two of the huge p

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote on making GNU patch a standard package

2010-07-02 Thread drkirkby
On Jul 2, 2010 8:02am, Adam Webb wrote: I felt that the important part of the proposal was the use of patches. Yes. I don't know if there will really be a lot of space saved but I think that is less important. Agreed. But the point I would make is that just removing two of the huge p

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote on making GNU patch a standard package

2010-07-02 Thread Mike Hansen
I don't think it's feasible to carry out William's proposal with conditional patches. I'm +1 on including GNU patch in Sage. --Mike -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Fo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote on making GNU patch a standard package

2010-07-02 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 01:10:25 -0700 Mike Hansen wrote: > I don't think it's feasible to carry out William's proposal with > conditional patches. I'm +1 on including GNU patch in Sage. I also vote YES to including patch in Sage. I would like to see some more standardization in how the patches are

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote on making GNU patch a standard package

2010-07-02 Thread François Bissey
> On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 01:10:25 -0700 > > Mike Hansen wrote: > > I don't think it's feasible to carry out William's proposal with > > conditional patches. I'm +1 on including GNU patch in Sage. > > I also vote YES to including patch in Sage. > > I would like to see some more standardization in h

[sage-devel] Re: Easy review for someone

2010-07-02 Thread Mariah
Thanks! I needed something simple to learn how to review. Someone tell me if I did anything wrong. Mariah On Jul 1, 8:52 am, David Kirkby wrote: > If someone wants an easy patch to review, > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9399 > > should come pretty easy. Currently a header file i

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Easy review for someone

2010-07-02 Thread David Kirkby
On 2 July 2010 15:09, Mariah wrote: > Thanks!  I needed something simple to learn how > to review.  Someone tell me if I did anything wrong. > > Mariah Thank you for reviewing it. You should have added your name as the reviewer. The convention is to add ones full name. I had also omitted to add

[sage-devel] Re: Can I use GiNaC indexed expressions?

2010-07-02 Thread Ryan Hinton
Well, it's a little dangerous for someone (me) who doesn't really understand how to *use* the tool to *design the interface* to the tool. But since I'm rarely bothered by my own ignorance, I'll charge ahead. :-) After writing a long, detailed email, I realized it's probably better to start a wiki

[sage-devel] Python process going long after Sage is exited?

2010-07-02 Thread kcrisman
Dear sage-devel, I consistently have a weird thing happen when I empty Trash (on Mac) that has a Sage I've used in it.Everything goes fine, but I get about five messages saying "The operation can't be completed because the item X is in use" where X is in the set {python2.6, python, time.so,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote on making GNU patch a standard package

2010-07-02 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Mike Hansen wrote: > I don't think it's feasible to carry out William's proposal with > conditional patches. Why? Consider that we *already* successfully conditionally patch files without using patch at all... and this works for every spkg included in Sage. >  

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote on making GNU patch a standard package

2010-07-02 Thread Mike Hansen
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:52 AM, William Stein wrote: > Why?   Consider that we *already* successfully conditionally patch > files without using patch at all... and this works for every spkg > included in Sage. Right, but it's all managed by hand. Once you start making automating things, then th

[sage-devel] Does Sage 4.4.4 build on Fedora 13 or ArchLinux ?

2010-07-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Ticket http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9385 raises an error of ATLAS going into an infinite loop on Fedora 13. The submitter also believe people are having the same problem on ArchLinux. Is this true? I know there were issues with Fedora 13. Is there anyone who has built Sage 4.4.4

[sage-devel] R and the ICU library

2010-07-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
According to the ICU web site "ICU is a mature, widely used set of C/C++ and Java libraries providing Unicode and Globalization support for software applications." R appears to need this on at least some systems, though I'm not sure if it needed on all of them. When R is built on Solaris, t

Re: [sage-devel] Does Sage 4.4.4 build on Fedora 13 or ArchLinux ?

2010-07-02 Thread Alex Ghitza
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:58:20 +0100, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > Ticket > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9385 > > raises an error of ATLAS going into an infinite loop on Fedora 13. The > submitter > also believe people are having the same problem on ArchLinux. Is this true? I ha

[sage-devel] Re: Python process going long after Sage is exited?

2010-07-02 Thread Georg S. Weber
I've seen this on Tiger too, and it might be related to doctesting (which both of us do rather extensively, I guess, but probably not the average user). Cheers, Georg -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-

[sage-devel] Using a Fortran compiler that doesn't match the C/C++ compiler

2010-07-02 Thread Peter Jeremy
If gcc/gfortran are used, prereq-0.7 verifies that they are the same version and aborts if they aren't. Is there a specific requirement for this? As far as I can see, there is no interaction between the C/C++ compiler and Fortran compiler output - in particular, libgfortran has no dependencies on

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Can I use GiNaC indexed expressions?

2010-07-02 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 09:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Ryan Hinton wrote: > Well, it's a little dangerous for someone (me) who doesn't really > understand how to *use* the tool to *design the interface* to the > tool. But since I'm rarely bothered by my own ignorance, I'll charge > ahead. :-) > > After writin

[sage-devel] Re: Using a Fortran compiler that doesn't match the C/C++ compiler

2010-07-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Jul 2, 10:47 pm, Peter Jeremy wrote: > If gcc/gfortran are used, prereq-0.7 verifies that they are the same > version and aborts if they aren't.  Is there a specific requirement > for this?  As far as I can see, there is no interaction between the > C/C++ compiler and Fortran compiler output

[sage-devel] Re: trac workflow

2010-07-02 Thread Robert Miller
Ping! I'd like to repeat my request, since I have just discovered yet another edge that needs adding: positive_review --> needs_info On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Robert Miller wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to make some tweaks to the workflow on Sage's trac server, in > particular the annoyi

[sage-devel] Re: Python process going long after Sage is exited?

2010-07-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Jul 2, 7:31 pm, kcrisman wrote: > Dear sage-devel, > > I consistently have a weird thing happen when I empty Trash (on Mac) > that has a Sage I've used in it.    Everything goes fine, but I get > about five messages saying > > "The operation can't be completed because the item X is in use" >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: trac workflow

2010-07-02 Thread Mike Hansen
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Robert Miller wrote: > Ping! > > I'd like to repeat my request, since I have just discovered yet > another edge that needs adding: > > positive_review --> needs_info Both should be added. --Mike -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.

Re: [sage-devel] Vote on making GNU patch a standard package

2010-07-02 Thread William Stein
Hi, I still vote -1 to this, and think it is possible to get around using patch at runtime. Nonetheless, I am ok with this proposal going forward, because it clearly received a lot of support from most developers who commented. William On Friday, July 2, 2010, Mike Hansen wrote: > On Fri, Jul

Re: [sage-devel] Vote on making GNU patch a standard package

2010-07-02 Thread Mike Hansen
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:49 PM, William Stein wrote: > I still vote -1 to this, and think it is possible to get around using > patch at runtime. If we can do it and it's not too awkward, then that's great. But, I personally am not sure how to implement it well. With using patch, it's just very

[sage-devel] sage days 23.5

2010-07-02 Thread William Stein
Hi, There is a Sage Days 23.5 in Kaiserslautern, Germany on "Singular and Sage integration" that is coming up later this month. http://wiki.sagemath.org/days23.5 There's a little bit of extra funding left. If anybody in Europe is very, very interested in attending, please send me an ema