Re: [sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 12 May 2014 16:58, "John Cremona" wrote: > > I'm sure that rtf did not mean to provide the physical machine, just the information about the machine (hardware and os, say)! > > John ..k "(Provide to whom? )" > > On 12 May 2014 16:51, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: >> >> >> On 10 May 2014 17:37, "rjf"

Re: [sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > On 10 May 2014 17:37, "rjf" wrote: >> >> >> >> It seems to me that the "reproducibility" should be with respect to the >> same conditions as the original publication. That is, someone who says >> "I'm telling the truth because yada yad

Re: [sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-12 Thread John Cremona
I'm sure that rtf did not mean to provide the physical machine, just the information about the machine (hardware and os, say)! John On 12 May 2014 16:51, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > On 10 May 2014 17:37, "rjf" wrote: > > > > > > > > It seems to me that the "reproducibility" should be with res

Re: [sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 10 May 2014 17:37, "rjf" wrote: > > > > It seems to me that the "reproducibility" should be with respect to the same conditions as the original publication. That is, someone who says "I'm telling the truth because yada yada Sage version x.y.z on machine q.p should provide not only the co

Re: [sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-10 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 03:49:56AM -0700, Nathann Cohen wrote: >I thought a bit about this ongoing conversation, and I wondered if the >best to do wouldn't be to give Sage users some *automatic* service to >*help them maintain their code*. >My point is that I would not like us to ta

Re: [sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-10 Thread rjf
It seems to me that the "reproducibility" should be with respect to the same conditions as the original publication. That is, someone who says "I'm telling the truth because yada yada Sage version x.y.z on machine q.p should provide not only the commands, but version x.y.z and machin

Re: [sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-10 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Well, essentially that's already possible: > > Create a trac ticket with your file(s) in a branch, and let the patchbots > regularly test it. > > (Although that's kind of abusing Sage's trac, since such tickets will > presumably never get merged, i.e., closed.) > > > We could also set up a patchb

Re: [sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-09 Thread Anne Schilling
On 5/9/14 4:40 AM, leif wrote: > Anne Schilling wrote: >> We actually added tests for our k-Schur function book. But a lot of >> time, when syntax in >> Sage changes, these tests just get replaced by others without checking >> with the authors >> of the book/paper. > > git log src/sage/tests/book_

Re: [sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-09 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-05-09 14:08, David Loeffler wrote: It's happened a few times that people have put tests in the sage/tests directory which explicitly require that certain inputs return NotImplementedError, or something similar. Surely we shouldn't have to go through the rigmarole of contacting the origina

Re: [sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-09 Thread David Loeffler
It's happened a few times that people have put tests in the sage/tests directory which explicitly require that certain inputs return NotImplementedError, or something similar. Surely we shouldn't have to go through the rigmarole of contacting the original author and waiting a year in order to add a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-08 Thread William Stein
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Anne Schilling wrote: > Hi William, > > We actually added tests for our k-Schur function book. But a lot of time, > when syntax in > Sage changes, these tests just get replaced by others without checking with > the authors > of the book/paper. So the published Sage