Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage requires SSL

2012-04-14 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:47:15 UTC+8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2012-04-14 07:10, William Stein wrote: > > Regarding (3), there is already an openssl optional package, FWIW. > I think with (3) he meant: make it such that the flask-notebook works > without OpenSSL. > indeed, I meant to sa

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage requires SSL

2012-04-14 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-04-14 07:10, William Stein wrote: > Regarding (3), there is already an openssl optional package, FWIW. I think with (3) he meant: make it such that the flask-notebook works without OpenSSL. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this gro

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage requires SSL

2012-04-13 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > Has there been any conclusion reached on this? > Should Sage > 1) Require openssl? > 2) Provide openssl > 3) make openssl optional? > In particular this is relevant to sagenb (#11080) > > (1 is the easiest, 2 might have licensing issues, 3 n

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage requires SSL

2012-03-20 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: > Jonathan Bober writes: >> Actually, the code base of psage is not "deeply connected" to sage. It >> really is just a python library that more or less depends on "all" of >> sage being present. (Or at least a lot of sage.) It could probably >>

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage requires SSL

2012-03-20 Thread Jonathan Bober
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: > I guess Purple Sage will have to switch to git when Sage does, since > their code bases are deeply connected. lmfdb, which I hadn't heard of > before, looks to be a separate codebase (like sagenb is). Is it > switching to git too? If not, then

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage requires SSL

2012-03-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 6:19:18 PM UTC+1, William wrote: > > ? Can you provide a reference? > ah, you are right, sorry. i guess i have mixed this up with some other custom license. h -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, s

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage requires SSL

2012-03-20 Thread John Cremona
On 20 March 2012 17:17, William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: >> John Cremona writes: >>> Indeed:  every time I build my working copy of Sage (not counting test >>> version here) I have to do first sage -i openssl and then sage -f >>> python to rebuild python

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage requires SSL

2012-03-20 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Harald Schilly wrote: > > > On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 6:05:41 PM UTC+1, John Cremona wrote: >> … openssl … > > the basic problem is this clause in their license: > """ > > All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this > *software must display t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage requires SSL

2012-03-20 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: > John Cremona writes: >> Indeed:  every time I build my working copy of Sage (not counting test >> version here) I have to do first sage -i openssl and then sage -f >> python to rebuild python.  Otherwise some mercurial stuff does not >> work (

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage requires SSL

2012-03-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 6:05:41 PM UTC+1, John Cremona wrote: > … openssl … the basic problem is this clause in their license: """ All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this *software must display the following acknowledgment: "This product includes software developed

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage requires SSL

2012-03-20 Thread John Cremona
On 20 March 2012 16:39, leif wrote: > > I thought HTTPS (which requires SSL of course) wasn't strictly needed > in Sage, but since it is omnipresent (many Python packages use it), it > doesn't make sense to not have it.  I.e., people frequently happen to > notice they don't have _ssl *after* they

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage requires SSL

2012-03-20 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Okay, maybe Python's hashlib builds if you don't have OpenSSL on your system. However, it *fails* if you do have an OpenSSL library but it can't be linked. I consider this to be a bug in Python. Put some random file at /usr/lib/libssl.so and Python thinks you have OpenSSL installed. This will c