Re: [sage-devel] Re: RFC: demote giac to optional

2025-02-24 Thread parisse
Don't worry, I won't try to convince sage maintainers that they should not downgrade giac, it seems we do have too incompatible views and probably not the same target audience (which may explain that some people here believe giac is about solving a few more integrals than maxima or sympy). Howev

Re: [sage-devel] Re: RFC: demote giac to optional

2025-02-22 Thread dimpase
On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 03:45:17PM +0100, Vincent Delecroix wrote: > I think it would be more productive to make two PRs: one for making > the package which is likely to create a consensus and one for demoting > to optional which might be controversial. The package is already done, it's in https:/

Re: [sage-devel] Re: RFC: demote giac to optional

2025-02-21 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2025-02-21 15:45:17, Vincent Delecroix wrote: > I think it would be more productive to make two PRs: one for making > the package which is likely to create a consensus and one for demoting > to optional which might be controversial. While generally a good idea, in this case it would create more

Re: [sage-devel] Re: RFC: demote giac to optional

2025-02-21 Thread Volker Braun
Giac has always segfaulted on my M2 Mac Mini buildbot, so it never got *worse* when merging a ticket. As far as I know it only works on Intel macs (endangered species as they are). For the record, +1 to making giac optional. On Friday, February 21, 2025 at 3:57:53 AM UTC+1 Dima Pasechnik wrot

Re: [sage-devel] Re: RFC: demote giac to optional

2025-02-21 Thread Vincent Delecroix
I think it would be more productive to make two PRs: one for making the package which is likely to create a consensus and one for demoting to optional which might be controversial. One important argument against optional packages is that they are rarely available in linux system pacakges (on a sys

Re: [sage-devel] Re: RFC: demote giac to optional

2025-02-20 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:25 PM John H Palmieri wrote: > > For what it's worth, on my macos M2 machine, giac builds but it fails its > test suite: Given that macOS is a supported platform, one has to have jolly good reasons for keeping giac standard - while it fails self-tests. If Volker would b