Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

If switching to rpath starts up, it could be a great learning opportunity for those of us who want to ramp up on the Sage build system. It would be great if project wizards leave a trail for others to catch up & help with testing. I have done sage builds on Mac over the last couple years & several

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

Hi, In the meantime, I think ASAP on the OS X binary download page we should: (1) move the "Usage:" message to the top (it's *hidden* at the bottom where nobody will ever see it). (2) add that there is no way to run Sage on 10.11 except to either disable Apple's system integrity protection, or

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

On Saturday, 3 October 2015 01:56:21 UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote: > > On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 10:49:03 AM UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: > >> Is that a sustainable solution for everyone? > > > No its not, we can't go around telling people to disable Apple's system > integrity protection. > OK, so

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 10:49:03 AM UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: > Is that a sustainable solution for everyone? No its not, we can't go around telling people to disable Apple's system integrity protection. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-d

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

> > > I upgraded to Mac OS 10.11 this afternoon. I tried running sage -b and > found the following error: > > -bash:/Applications/sage/src/sage $ sage -b > python -u setup.py install > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "setup.py", line 4, in > import os, sys, time, errno, platform

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

Hi, Let me pile on and explain my experience and how you have already fixed my problem. I upgraded to Mac OS 10.11 this afternoon. I tried running sage -b and found the following error: -bash:/Applications/sage/src/sage $ sage -b python -u setup.py install Traceback (most recent call last):

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

On Thursday, 1 October 2015 11:51:04 UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Thursday, 1 October 2015 07:39:51 UTC-7, Hal Snyder wrote: >> >> On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 3:02:36 AM UTC-5, Volker Braun wrote: >>> >>> Looks like Apple kept the new behavior of DYLD_* environment variables >>> and

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

My impression is that it's a new security feature for 10.11, preventing any programs (even ones that have root privileges) from writing to certain system folders. So as long as you don't run into any such malware, disabling rootless should have no effect on you. :-) David On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

Thanks for the post! Do you know if "disabling rootless" changes anything else for the daily use? On Friday, October 2, 2015 at 11:00:23 AM UTC+2, Fredrik Strömberg wrote: > > After upgrading to El Capitan yesterday my sage ( v6.8 compiled from > source) stopped working and I figured out that

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

After upgrading to El Capitan yesterday my sage ( v6.8 compiled from source) stopped working and I figured out that DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH are no longer supported by default due to SIP (system integrity protection) and rootless which are no turned on by default. After disabling r

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

On Thursday, 1 October 2015 07:39:51 UTC-7, Hal Snyder wrote: > > On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 3:02:36 AM UTC-5, Volker Braun wrote: >> >> Looks like Apple kept the new behavior of DYLD_* environment variables >> and they are not passed down to launched interpreters. Hence sooner or >> later

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 3:02:36 AM UTC-5, Volker Braun wrote: > > Looks like Apple kept the new behavior of DYLD_* environment variables and > they are not passed down to launched interpreters. Hence sooner or later we > crash with symbol not found as libraries can't be located. Really

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

This is probably going to escalate with the public release of El Capitan. I upgraded, and I have no local sage anymore. What can we do? I don't want to use sage math cloud, at least not always. On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 10:02:36 AM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: > > Looks like Apple kept the

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

> > Post the Sage_crash_report.txt > (Sage 6.9rc0 with xcode 7 under macosx 10.11) > Here it is: *** IPython post-mortem report {'commit_hash': u'2f7c727', 'commit_source': 'installation', 'default_encoding': 'UTF-8',

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

Post the Sage_crash_report.txt On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 11:50:15 AM UTC+2, Juan Luis Varona wrote: > > Unfortunately, the compiling process of sage 6.9rc0 with xcode 7 under > macosx 10.11 has finished with errors: > > — > > ---

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

Unfortunately, the compiling process of sage 6.9rc0 with xcode 7 under macosx 10.11 has finished with errors: — Unhandled SIGSEGV: A segmentation fault occurred in Sage. This probably occurred because a *compile

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

I am looking forward to your update on how the process went. Thanks for your effort... On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 11:46:48 AM UTC-7, Juan Luis Varona wrote: > > I have downlodaded 6.9.rc0 and I my computer is now compiling with xcode 7 > on osx 11.10. > > I will inform at the end of the p

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

I have downlodaded 6.9.rc0 and I my computer is now compiling with xcode 7 on osx 11.10. I will inform at the end of the process, Juan Luis > El 25 sept 2015, a las 17:12, John H Palmieri > escribió: > > Please try the latest Sage prerelease (6.9.rc0, available here: > http://files.sagemath

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

Please try the latest Sage prerelease (6.9.rc0, available here: http://files.sagemath.org/devel/index.html) should build with Xcode 7, so I hope it builds with OS X 10.11. John On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 8:14:44 AM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 18, 2015 at

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 2:01:24 AM UTC-7, Juan Luis Varona wrote: > > Actually, xcode 7 were released yesterday. > > I can confirm that again sage 6.8 cannot be compiled in mac os x 10.11 > with xcode 7. > > Juan Luis > We are tracking build issues with Xcode 7 here: http://trac.sa

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

Actually, xcode 7 were released yesterday. I can confirm that again sage 6.8 cannot be compiled in mac os x 10.11 with xcode 7. Juan Luis > > Same problem, nobody find a solution ? If yes, please can you tell me how ! > > Charles > > Le vendredi 11 septembre 2015 04:48:25 UTC+2, François a é

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

Same problem, nobody find a solution ? If yes, please can you tell me how ! Charles Le vendredi 11 septembre 2015 04:48:25 UTC+2, François a écrit : > > Hum, that symbol is in libpython2.7.dylib, operator.so is not linked to > that library. > I am guessing it is supposed to be dlopen-ed from py

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

Looks like Apple kept the new behavior of DYLD_* environment variables and they are not passed down to launched interpreters. Hence sooner or later we crash with symbol not found as libraries can't be located. Really we should have switched to rpaths years ago, this would have saved so much pain

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

> > Hum, that symbol is in libpython2.7.dylib, operator.so is not linked to that > library. > I am guessing it is supposed to be dlopen-ed from python which would supply > the symbol. I suspect python will need patching. > Can you start python from a sage shell? > But sage shell closes, so I

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

Hum, that symbol is in libpython2.7.dylib, operator.so is not linked to that library. I am guessing it is supposed to be dlopen-ed from python which would supply the symbol. I suspect python will need patching. Can you start python from a sage shell? François > On 11/09/2015, at 14:40, Juan Lui

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

> El 11 sept 2015, a las 4:24, kcrisman escribió: > > But, usually, new versions of osx can execute already compiled versions of > sage, and this does not happen this time. (I like to have always the last > version of osx in one of my computers, and I do not remember this problem in > the pas

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

A few days ago, Apple released mac osx 10.11 (El Capitan) public beta5. As in previous public betas, I can confirm that sage 6.8 does not work. I have tried again to compile it and it gives similar errors. The entire log file is here (a 22.9 MB file): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8293746/l

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

> > > Looks like everything is linked correctly. The following suggests that there > is a bug in DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH handling in the OSX 10.11 betas: > > https://forums.developer.apple.com/message/31148 > > Possibly thats an intentional change of the spec to fix the (still unpatched > on all re

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

Looks like everything is linked correctly. The following suggests that there is a bug in DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH handling in the OSX 10.11 betas: https://forums.developer.apple.com/message/31148 Possibly thats an intentional change of the spec to fix the (still unpatched on all released OSX versions)

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

> El 8 ago 2015, a las 0:22, Volker Braun escribió: > > sage -sh -c 'otool -L $SAGE_ROOT/local/lib/libsingular.dylib' I’m not sure if this is what you want to check: ./sage -sh -c 'otool -L $SAGE_ROOT/local/lib/libsingular.dylib’ /Applications/sage-6.8/local/lib/libsingular.dylib: lib

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 2:27:19 PM UTC+2, Juan Luis Varona wrote: > > sage -sh -c 'otool -L $SAGE_ROOT/local/lib/libsingular.dylib’ > > Your email client messed up the final backtick, it shoud be the same as all the other ones but you have a U+2019 there. sage -sh -c 'otool -L $SAGE_ROOT/loc

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

> > > Also, whats the output of > > sage -sh -c 'otool -L $SAGE_ROOT/local/lib/libsingular.dylib’ Nothing (only >). > sage -sh -c 'otool -L > $SAGE_ROOT/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/matrix/matrix_mpolynomial_dense.so' > ./sage -sh -c 'otool -L $SAGE_ROOT/local/lib/python2.7/s

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

Also, whats the output of sage -sh -c 'otool -L $SAGE_ROOT/local/lib/libsingular.dylib' sage -sh -c 'otool -L $SAGE_ROOT/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/matrix/matrix_mpolynomial_dense.so' On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 1:56:39 PM UTC+2, Juan Luis Varona wrote: > > > > > > > And what d

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

> > > I asked for the output of the “file” command. But I am not expecting anything > spectacular > because what I thought about initially should have broken at compilation time. > Sorry, I was answering your previous message, If I use file /Applications/sage-6.8/local/lib/libsingular.dylib

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

I asked for the output of the “file” command. But I am not expecting anything spectacular because what I thought about initially should have broken at compilation time. François > On 7/08/2015, at 23:56, Juan Luis Varona wrote: > >> >> >> And what does >> “file /Applications/sage-6.8/local/

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

> > > And what does > “file /Applications/sage-6.8/local/lib/libsingular.dylib” > says? > Yes, sure: cd /Applications/sage-6.8/local/lib ls -l . . . -rwxr-xr-x1 jvarona staff8706256 6 ago 21:56 libsingular.dylib . . . -- You received this message because you are subscribed t

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

And what does “file /Applications/sage-6.8/local/lib/libsingular.dylib” says? François > On 7/08/2015, at 23:43, Juan Luis Varona wrote: > > > >> All right. Do you have a file named >> /Applications/sage-6.8/local/lib/libsingular.dylib? >> > > Yes, it is a 8.7 MB file. > > Yours, > > Jua

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

> All right. Do you have a file named > /Applications/sage-6.8/local/lib/libsingular.dylib? > Yes, it is a 8.7 MB file. Yours, Juan Luis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

All right. Do you have a file named /Applications/sage-6.8/local/lib/libsingular.dylib? François > On 7/08/2015, at 23:32, Juan Luis Varona wrote: > > I have tried to compile sage-6.8 (yesterday I wrote 2.6 instead of 6.8 by > mistake) under osx 10.11 beta4, again without sucess. > > This is

[sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

I have try to install sage (the current stable version 6.7) in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan), public beta (the final version will be available after the summer). I have tried with both *sage-6.7-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.10_x86_64.dmg