[sage-devel] Re: ianal but...

2007-02-19 Thread Alec Mihailovs
>> (1) Is this license GPL compatible? It seems like it might be. It is >> very >> free (much more so than the GPL). What do you think? I couldn't find >> anything definitive online... One thing -- this license is very clear >> about >> patent issues, which is comforting. I am not ANAL, bu

[sage-devel] Re: ianal but...

2007-02-18 Thread mabshoff
> > (1) Is this license GPL compatible? It seems like it might be. It is very > free (much more so than the GPL). What do you think? I couldn't find > anything definitive online... One thing -- this license is very clear about > patent issues, which is comforting. > Hello, According to htt

[sage-devel] Re: ianal but...

2007-02-18 Thread kaimmello
> > (2) General thoughts? > Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes Tiziano --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://

[sage-devel] Re: ianal but...

2007-02-18 Thread David Joyner
On 2/18/07, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Certain kind researchers at Microsoft Rsearch have code they would like to > contribute to SAGE. They are only allowed release it under the Microsoft > Permissive License, which is described here (and linked to): > > > http://www.m

[sage-devel] Re: ianal but...

2007-02-18 Thread William Stein
On 2/18/07, Jason Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I just learned what IANAL means, and indeed I am not a Lawyer, but > point 3c of the Microsoft Permissive License appears to directly > conflict with the GPL. Why??? Sorry, but that's not at all clear to me. Point 3c says: "(C) If you di

[sage-devel] Re: ianal but...

2007-02-18 Thread Jason Martin
Oops, strike this comment. Clearly I am neither a lawyer nor a careful reader (commas are so tricky). As I re-read the license several times, I now cannot see any conflict with GPL. However, several webpages (including wikipedia's software license list) say that it does conflict. I cannot see

[sage-devel] Re: ianal but...

2007-02-18 Thread didier deshommes
On 2/18/07, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Certain kind researchers at Microsoft Rsearch have code they would like to > contribute to SAGE. They are only allowed release it under the Microsoft > Permissive License, which is described here (and linked to): > > > http://www.m

[sage-devel] Re: ianal but...

2007-02-18 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Sunday 18 February 2007 17:53, Jason Martin wrote: > I just learned what IANAL means, and indeed I am not a Lawyer, but > point 3c of the Microsoft Permissive License appears to directly > conflict with the GPL. This is potentially endless, but: "3c: If you distribute any portion of the softw

[sage-devel] Re: ianal but...

2007-02-18 Thread Timothy Clemans
Boothby what you looked up does not seem to be the same as Microsoft Permissive License --- (Ms-PL) - The Ms-PL is the least restrictive of the Microsoft source code licenses. It allows licensees to view, modify, and redistribute the source code for either commercial or non-commercial purposes.

[sage-devel] Re: ianal but...

2007-02-18 Thread boothby
> In the back of my non-lawyer head I believe that either the Open Source > Initiative or the FSE have some infrastructure in place to help projects like > SAGE with these questions. What about the Microsoft lawyers? As they are > already involved don't they have a position on if the license is GP

[sage-devel] Re: ianal but...

2007-02-18 Thread Jason Martin
I just learned what IANAL means, and indeed I am not a Lawyer, but point 3c of the Microsoft Permissive License appears to directly conflict with the GPL. --jason On 2/18/07, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Certain kind researchers at Microsoft Rsearch have code they would

[sage-devel] Re: ianal but...

2007-02-18 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Sunday 18 February 2007 17:30, William Stein wrote: > Hello, > > Certain kind researchers at Microsoft Rsearch have code they would like to > contribute to SAGE. They are only allowed release it under the Microsoft > Permissive License, which is described here (and linked to): > > > http://www

[sage-devel] Re: ianal but...

2007-02-18 Thread boothby
Answers.com INAL, but... http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-software-licenses On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, William Stein wrote: > Hello, > > Certain kind researchers at Microsoft Rsearch have code they would like to > contribute to SAGE. They are only allowed release it under the Microsoft > Permi

[sage-devel] Re: ianal but...

2007-02-18 Thread Timothy Clemans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_source#Criticism On 2/18/07, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Certain kind researchers at Microsoft Rsearch have code they would like to > contribute to SAGE. They are only allowed release it under the Microsoft > Permissive License, which