On May 28, 6:19 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Groenewald) wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 06:27:32AM -0700, mhampton wrote:
> > I think it would be very nice to have a "citation" command in Sage,
> > something like the citation command in R. This could also provide
> > citation material fo
Hi
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 06:27:32AM -0700, mhampton wrote:
> I think it would be very nice to have a "citation" command in Sage,
> something like the citation command in R. This could also provide
> citation material for included packages.
Wasn't there a ticket to introduce a latex-like comma
Howdy,
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:42 PM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've made a trac ticket, #3317, to help organize some sort of
> solution(s) to this problem.
Great!
>> Parsing this could be the start of a useful summary of functionality
>> used for a given computation: at least k
I've made a trac ticket, #3317, to help organize some sort of
solution(s) to this problem.
-M. Hampton
On May 27, 7:02 pm, "Fernando Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Mike Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As someone who is "upstream", did you have any spec
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Mike Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As someone who is "upstream", did you have any specific ideas /
> examples in mind?
This is certainly not an easy problem if one wants a '100%' solution,
in the sense that tracking down every single line of code in any giv
That might work; it would be easier than what I was thinking, which
would be to do something like put a CITATION section in docstrings
that would get read if a citation command was run, or if a verbose-
like option was set...although what you are suggesting wouldn't pick
up linked libraries would
> I save the commands which were
> needed to do the computation and restart SAGE. Someone (not me)
> writes a clever script which simply parses the result of "ps us",
> picks out the sage jobs started (of which hopefully eclib is one of
> them),
> and prints a string summarizing the jobs started
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 12:48 PM, John Cremona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Surely the problem is (and it will get worse not better as Sage
> improves ;)) that users just may not know which constituents
> (3rd-party packages, i.e.spkgs) their Sage session has used. Are we
> asking that our us
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:18 PM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My intention was to sound hopeful rather than lazy; my apologies if my
> tone was not clear. I completely agree that it is important to
> provide full credit, and that is the whole reason I am spending time
> writing on this
> Forgive my tone, but honestly, if an outsider sees messages like the
> above with a hint of "we'll give proper citation sif the original
> authors help us", it should come as no surprise that upstream projects
> are beginning to see inclusion in Sage as an asymmetrical relationship
> (as comment
My intention was to sound hopeful rather than lazy; my apologies if my
tone was not clear. I completely agree that it is important to
provide full credit, and that is the whole reason I am spending time
writing on this thread, and why I brought up the citation command in
R. For my own papers I p
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:16 AM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem might not get much worse if Sage-native code starts
> providing more functionality. Also, this is an area where the
> upstream people might be willing to chip in some effort, since it
> would be directly helping
Yes, that is definitely a problem. But even having a simple
citation() function would be an improvement - something that
immediately says how to cite Sage itself, perhaps followed by citation
information on other packages and what they are used for.
It would be nice to have some sort of verbose
Surely the problem is (and it will get worse not better as Sage
improves ;)) that users just may not know which constituents
(3rd-party packages, i.e.spkgs) their Sage session has used. Are we
asking that our users take the trouble to find out (using lots of ?
and ?? commands) the complete set
William Stein wrote:
> Yes to every single one of your questions.
Thanks. This email is now trac #1389.
-Jason
>
> On Dec 3, 2007 1:29 PM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm citing Sage in a paper I'm writing. After searching (using the
>> search function at sagemath.org) and cl
Yes to every single one of your questions.
On Dec 3, 2007 1:29 PM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm citing Sage in a paper I'm writing. After searching (using the
> search function at sagemath.org) and clicking around lots of places, I
> found the page in the tutorial:
>
> http://s
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