[sage-devel] Re: bugs, bugs and bugs

2007-08-10 Thread William Stein
On 8/10/07, Jack Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To make this effective, one needs to make it easier to have a trac > account. The development model here is heavily centralized making it > fairly hard to join in. It's not hard to get a trac account -- just write to me and I'll create one

[sage-devel] Re: bugs, bugs and bugs

2007-08-10 Thread Jack Schmidt
To make this effective, one needs to make it easier to have a trac account. The development model here is heavily centralized making it fairly hard to join in. On Aug 10, 9:25 am, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > there have been some complaints about the quality of SAG

[sage-devel] Re: bugs, bugs and bugs

2007-08-10 Thread David Harvey
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Martin Albrecht wrote: > > On Friday 10 August 2007, David Harvey wrote: >> Strongly agree. >> >> I'd like to add something. I consider "slowness" a bug. When SAGE does >> something obviously way too slowly, that's almost as bad as a genuine >> bug. Some slownesses are easy t

[sage-devel] Re: bugs, bugs and bugs

2007-08-10 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Friday 10 August 2007, David Harvey wrote: > Strongly agree. > > I'd like to add something. I consider "slowness" a bug. When SAGE does > something obviously way too slowly, that's almost as bad as a genuine > bug. Some slownesses are easy to fix, some are not. > > One of the things that really

[sage-devel] Re: bugs, bugs and bugs

2007-08-10 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Friday 10 August 2007, David Harvey wrote: > Strongly agree. > > I'd like to add something. I consider "slowness" a bug. When SAGE does > something obviously way too slowly, that's almost as bad as a genuine > bug. Some slownesses are easy to fix, some are not. > > One of the things that really

[sage-devel] Re: bugs, bugs and bugs

2007-08-10 Thread David Harvey
Strongly agree. I'd like to add something. I consider "slowness" a bug. When SAGE does something obviously way too slowly, that's almost as bad as a genuine bug. Some slownesses are easy to fix, some are not. One of the things that really worries me is that someone who doesn't know the code r

[sage-devel] Re: bugs, bugs and bugs

2007-08-10 Thread Chris Chiasson
The only thing I would add is that it might be prudent to automatically add the test cases that trigger bugs to the regression/ unit testing system. That way, SAGE will prevent regressions going forward. Mathematica has problems where code breaks over and over again as things are changed. On Aug

[sage-devel] Re: bugs, bugs and bugs

2007-08-10 Thread Martin Albrecht
> > 2.) We agree on - lets say - one Sunday a month when we all meet on IRC > > and sit down fixing those bugs. No new features only bug squashing! Many > > projects hold events called 'Bug Squashing Party' and this would be our > > 'party. I.e. we go through the bug reports, assign people, fix th

[sage-devel] Re: bugs, bugs and bugs

2007-08-10 Thread William Stein
On 8/10/07, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there have been some complaints about the quality of SAGE code recently, so > this is a proposal how to tackle this problem. Yes! > 1.) Everybody fills a bug report about _anything_ annoying, wrong, broken in > SAGE. Everything! Really, ev