Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2015-01-12 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 3:00 AM, Simon King wrote: > Hi! > > On 2015-01-11, Nils Bruin wrote: >> On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 12:54:56 AM UTC-8, Martin von Gagern wrote: >>> >>> On 11.01.2015 09:38, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >>> > Hopefully it's becoming stable enough that >>> > we should start sh

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2015-01-12 Thread kcrisman
> > >> > Hopefully it's becoming stable enough that > >> > we should start shipping it as part of Sage? > >> > >> At first I thought so, too. But now I'm no longer sure: if you ship it > >> with Sage, then it will be difficult to use it if you want to work with > >> a patch from an older bran

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2015-01-11 Thread Simon King
Hi! On 2015-01-11, Nils Bruin wrote: > On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 12:54:56 AM UTC-8, Martin von Gagern wrote: >> >> On 11.01.2015 09:38, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >> > Hopefully it's becoming stable enough that >> > we should start shipping it as part of Sage? >> >> At first I thought so, too

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2015-01-09 Thread Volker Braun
On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 5:10:03 PM UTC+1, martin@gmx.net wrote: > > Hadn't known of git-trac before. Since the tool has some sage settings > hard-wired into it, perhaps it should be called git-sage instead, to avoid > clashes? > My goal was to keep git-trac as independent as possible f

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2015-01-09 Thread martin . vgagern
Hadn't known of git-trac before. Since the tool has some sage settings hard-wired into it, perhaps it should be called git-sage instead, to avoid clashes? Recently I've been using git the hard way for pretty much everything except pushing, for which I used "./sage -dev push --ticket" in the hop

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Nathann Cohen
The branch is there, ready for a review: http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17555 Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@goo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Nathann Cohen
> If you want to remove the documentation about them from the developper > guide, it is ok with me. Okay okay, fine. I think that I will do that then, unless somebody objects. This way those who still use them can continue, and we hope that in something like 6 months~1 year you will have switched

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread mmarco
Sorry, it seems my message was interrupted. If you want to remove the documentation about them from the developper guide, it is ok with me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread mmarco
> > > > Could you why you use them instead of 'git trac' ? Is there something > that they do and that git trac can't do ? > > > As i said, it is just what i am used to. It is what i did learn to use in the beginning, and up to now i didn't had any reason to stop using them. I don't really kno

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Volker Braun
-a, --all List both remote-tracking branches and local branches. I of course agree that you can set git to not look at remote branches, but as long as you don't explicitly ask for the list of remote branches they are not shown in the output of "git branch". And, regardless of h

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Nathann Cohen
> The output of "git branch" will always only contain branches that you > created locally. Okay. Then Dima: instead of "git branch" try "git branch -a". It gives only two lines on my version, but my guess is that it will take several screens for you. Only because of the --single-branch flag. Na

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Volker Braun
On Saturday, December 27, 2014 1:22:29 PM UTC+1, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > Type "git branch". If you see one thousand things you never fetched > from trac, that's a confirmation. > The output of "git branch" will always only contain branches that you created locally. There is a slight differenc

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Nathann Cohen
> I reglarly use the dev scripts. So i would really appreciate if they remain. Oh. Well, the developer's manual advises you to NOT use them :-P > But of course, if they are removed i will adapt to plain git or git trac. > But my personal preference is to keep them. Could you why you use them ins

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread mmarco
I reglarly use the dev scripts. So i would really appreciate if they remain. But of course, if they are removed i will adapt to plain git or git trac. But my personal preference is to keep them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group.

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Friday, December 26, 2014 9:07:06 PM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On 2014-12-26, Volker Braun > wrote: > > --=_Part_5531_1685050387.1419616059330 > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="=_Part_5532_1775001320.1419616059330" > > > > --=_Part_5532_1775

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Further, 'Git the hard way' should be consistent, but it > does not tell you about '--single-branch'. Dima: If you want it to change, do something. 1) Write doc tickets 2) help me review mine. > well, before improving at this point, we need to dig up the truth :-) I gave you two ways out: 1)

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-12-27, Nathann Cohen wrote: >> Are you saying that the default is to constantly pull the data from the >> remote, in the background? Really? > > Type "git branch". If you see one thousand things you never fetched > from trac, that's a confirmation. > >> Could you point to documentation con

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Are you saying that the default is to constantly pull the data from the > remote, in the background? Really? Type "git branch". If you see one thousand things you never fetched from trac, that's a confirmation. > Could you point to documentation confirming this? I do not think that it is writt

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-12-27, Nathann Cohen wrote: >> I don't know how one can automatically maintain a mirror of git trac, >> without running a special script, and I believe I don't do this. > > I believe that it is what happens in your case, because that's the > default. Are you saying that the default is to

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-12-27, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On 2014-12-27, Nathann Cohen wrote: >> Yo ! >> >>> I did give it here: >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/JtVWAdvw-3A/603M_PziLfUJ >>> >>> (if it matters, my git version is 1.9.1) >> >> Oh !!! That's because your git instal contai

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Nathann Cohen
> I don't know how one can automatically maintain a mirror of git trac, > without running a special script, and I believe I don't do this. I believe that it is what happens in your case, because that's the default. If you want to check, you can "git clone" Sage again and fetch a branch from there.

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-12-27, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Yo ! > >> I did give it here: >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/JtVWAdvw-3A/603M_PziLfUJ >> >> (if it matters, my git version is 1.9.1) > > Oh !!! That's because your git instal contains a > complete copy of the trac's git server. Y

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Volker Braun
I'm in favor of removing the dev scripts eventually, but not right now. There is still some useful functionality for importing old patches, and maybe somebody uses them. The documentation should already be clear enough that this is not the currently recommended way to use git. I'm fine with rem

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Nathann Cohen
Yo ! > I did give it here: > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/JtVWAdvw-3A/603M_PziLfUJ > > (if it matters, my git version is 1.9.1) Oh !!! That's because your git instal contains a complete copy of the trac's git server. You've got "ALL" branches on your computer. So whe

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-12-27, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On 2014-12-27, Nathann Cohen wrote: >>> Once again: whenever I do git fetch from trac I get a local branch >>> created on the spot: >> >> Can you give us the command that you type that produces this result ? > > I did give it here: > https://groups.google.co

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-12-27, Nathann Cohen wrote: >> Once again: whenever I do git fetch from trac I get a local branch >> created on the spot: > > Can you give us the command that you type that produces this result ? I did give it here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/JtVWAdvw-3A/603M_PziLfUJ (if

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Once again: whenever I do git fetch from trac I get a local branch > created on the spot: Can you give us the command that you type that produces this result ? Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this gr

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-12-27, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Yo ! > >> Nathann, that's about git in developer docs, so that's not 100% off the >> thread :-) > > Well, as long as we can close the question related to the removal of > the sage-dev scripts, I personally don't care what this thread > becomes. But I need to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Nathann Cohen
Yo ! > Nathann, that's about git in developer docs, so that's not 100% off the > thread :-) Well, as long as we can close the question related to the removal of the sage-dev scripts, I personally don't care what this thread becomes. But I need to know what to do with that ! :-P > One thing that

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Nathann, that's about git in developer docs, so that's not 100% off the thread :-) One thing that is confusing in the "Git the hard way" is that the example of git fetch in http://sagemath.org/doc/developer/manual_git.html#checking-out-tickets does not show a line like * [new branch] u/dimp

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Nathann Cohen
> I found them quite practical, and you may recall from the discussions in > Paris that I'd like them to be extended so that they are also able to > send bug reports to the bug trackers of Singular/Gap/..., so that there is > no need to google "how to report bugs in Singular". > > Nonetheless, I st

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Simon King
Hi Dima, On 2014-12-26, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > IMHO dev scripts should be retired. > Does anyone use them? I found them quite practical, and you may recall from the discussions in Paris that I'd like them to be extended so that they are also able to send bug reports to the bug trackers of Singu

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-26 Thread Ralf Stephan
Very good. I guess the respective still open tickets are wontfix then... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. T

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-26 Thread François
If you do remove them don't forget to remove the associated documentation. That is remove sage/dev but also doc/en/reference/dev and apply this little patch too https://github.com/cschwan/sage-on-gentoo/blob/master/sci-mathematics/sage-doc/files/sage-doc-dev.patch François On Saturday, Decembe

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hey guys... I hate to interrupt your debugging but I had a question about . Can I create a patch to remove that, in the end ? Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hey guys... I hate to interrupt your debugging but I had a question about Sage-devel. Can I create a patch to remove that, in the end ? Nathann On 27 December 2014 at 03:45, Volker Braun wrote: > I'd say by definition a git branch is what is listed by "git branch". Having > said that, it is just

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-26 Thread Volker Braun
I'd say by definition a git branch is what is listed by "git branch". Having said that, it is just a label for a commit. There are other kinds of labels for commits, for example tags. Whenever you fetch (pull) something from a remote a local copy (of the commits on the remote) is made, and they

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-26 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-12-26, Volker Braun wrote: > --=_Part_5531_1685050387.1419616059330 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="=_Part_5532_1775001320.1419616059330" > > --=_Part_5532_1775001320.1419616059330 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Friday, December 26, 2

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-26 Thread Volker Braun
On Friday, December 26, 2014 6:23:43 PM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > By the way, I noticed some change in the behaviour of trac git server; > it seems that fetching u/foo/bar automatically results in > creation of a local branch trac/u/foo/bar. No it doesn't. Local branches would be in the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
> By the way, I noticed some change in the behaviour of trac git server; > it seems that fetching u/foo/bar automatically results in > creation of a local branch trac/u/foo/bar. > > Is this documented anywhere? No idea. Really, these days I am trying to make the developer's manual something I can

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-26 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-12-26, Nathann Cohen wrote: > --f46d043c7edc287181050b1f0d5c > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Helloo everybody ! > > There is no pub in a radius of 40km of where I live, so I spend my evenings > rewriting Sage's developer manual. > > Tonight I have two questions for yo