[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT but still relevant

2015-05-11 Thread Bill Hart
On Monday, 11 May 2015 16:02:32 UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > On Friday, 8 May 2015 14:31:40 UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: >> >> What I find interesting about this article is the almost complete lack of >> discussing the computer as something to help *discover* theorems then >> verified "by han

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT but still relevant

2015-05-11 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Friday, 8 May 2015 14:31:40 UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: > > What I find interesting about this article is the almost complete lack of > discussing the computer as something to help *discover* theorems then > verified "by hand", ala "The Computer as Crucible". Appearances by JH > Conway, Voevods

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT but still relevant

2015-05-11 Thread kcrisman
> > > So the article isn't so much about the use of computers in mathematics as > it is about this very specific issue. > > Yes, I wasn't intending to say anything else, only that the article at one point goes on to mention other things people do with computers in math and doesn't mention "disc

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT but still relevant

2015-05-11 Thread Bill Hart
As far as I recall, Veovodsky and company had an issue with the very complicated proofs they were getting into in homotopy theory. They realised that humans were no longer sufficient to verify the complex proofs, hence the big push to use computers to do it. So the article isn't so much about t