Re: [sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-30 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:10 PM, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 9:02 PM, William Stein wrote: >> I think the right thing to do in this case is to carefully understand >> the intention of the license (possibly consult with a lawyer), and >> also to possibly write a letter to the OE

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-30 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 9:02 PM, William Stein wrote: > I think the right thing to do in this case is to carefully understand > the intention of the license (possibly consult with a lawyer), and > also to possibly write a letter to the OEIS foundation with a petition > for them to reconsider their

[sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-27 Thread Robert Dodier
On Nov 26, 5:53 pm, David Joyner wrote: > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Robert Dodier > wrote: > > Now one might suppose that the DLMF is a work of a federal > > agency (NIST) and therefore cannot be copyrighted. > > The arrangement is this: NIST contracts with the authors > > (not NIST emp

[sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-26 Thread Donald Alan Morrison
On Nov 26, 4:53 pm, David Joyner wrote: > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Robert Dodier > wrote: > > On Nov 25, 5:02 pm, Rob Beezer wrote: > >> On Nov 25, 3:35 pm, Donald Alan Morrison > >> wrote: > > >> > "Abramowitz and Stegun: Handbook of Mathematical Functions" is another > >> > interesti

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-26 Thread David Joyner
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Robert Dodier wrote: > On Nov 25, 5:02 pm, Rob Beezer wrote: >> On Nov 25, 3:35 pm, Donald Alan Morrison >> wrote: >> >> > "Abramowitz and Stegun: Handbook of Mathematical Functions" is another >> > interesting topic source you mentioned.  It is very nice that it

[sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-26 Thread Robert Dodier
On Nov 25, 5:02 pm, Rob Beezer wrote: > On Nov 25, 3:35 pm, Donald Alan Morrison > wrote: > > > "Abramowitz and Stegun: Handbook of Mathematical Functions" is another > > interesting topic source you mentioned.  It is very nice that it's > > free to view.  I'm surprised that it's just scanned ima

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-25 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Tom Boothby wrote: > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:11 PM, David Kirkby wrote: >> On 26 November 2010 01:56, Donald Alan Morrison >> wrote: >> >>> A1: If the license says you can't or the stripped version is no longer >>> available, that's not an option. >> >>> -Don

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-25 Thread Tom Boothby
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:11 PM, David Kirkby wrote: > On 26 November 2010 01:56, Donald Alan Morrison wrote: > >> A1: If the license says you can't or the stripped version is no longer >> available, that's not an option. > >> -Don > > That would be true if the license was legally enforceable, wh

[sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-25 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Surely they are about to sign an exclusive deal with Apple to have all its http://oeis.org/play content available via iTunes Store... On Nov 26, 12:11 pm, David Kirkby wrote: > On 26 November 2010 01:56, Donald Alan Morrison wrote: > > > A1: If the license says you can't or the stripped version

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-25 Thread David Kirkby
On 26 November 2010 01:56, Donald Alan Morrison wrote: > A1: If the license says you can't or the stripped version is no longer > available, that's not an option. > -Don That would be true if the license was legally enforceable, which I very much doubt it is. Dave -- To post to this group, s

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-25 Thread Tom Boothby
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Donald Alan Morrison wrote: > On Nov 25, 5:24 pm, Tom Boothby wrote: >> Two technical solutions: >> >> 1) have 'make' download the database. >> 2) Before we make each release, dump a few gigabytes onto the OEIS >> wiki, such that what we distribute is well under 5

[sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-25 Thread Donald Alan Morrison
On Nov 25, 5:24 pm, Tom Boothby wrote: > Two technical solutions: > > 1) have 'make' download the database. > 2) Before we make each release, dump a few gigabytes onto the OEIS > wiki, such that what we distribute is well under 5% of their > "aggregate content".  (tongue firmly in cheek) Tom: Not

[sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-25 Thread Donald Alan Morrison
On Nov 25, 5:19 pm, David Joyner wrote: >[...] > (b) Even if he does own copyright (and I'm not saying he does), since it is > free data and no one makes any money from it, if someone did redistribute the > data which is already freely available, how can he prove that any > damage occurred? >[..

[sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-25 Thread Donald Alan Morrison
On Nov 25, 4:02 pm, Rob Beezer wrote: > On Nov 25, 3:35 pm, Donald Alan Morrison > wrote: > > > "Abramowitz and Stegun: Handbook of Mathematical Functions" is another > > interesting topic source you mentioned.  It is very nice that it's > > free to view.  I'm surprised that it's just scanned ima

[sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-25 Thread Rob Beezer
On Nov 25, 3:35 pm, Donald Alan Morrison wrote: > "Abramowitz and Stegun: Handbook of Mathematical Functions" is another > interesting topic source you mentioned.  It is very nice that it's > free to view.  I'm surprised that it's just scanned imagessomeone > could have run it through OCR, the

[sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-25 Thread Donald Alan Morrison
On Nov 25, 12:15 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Mike Hansen wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:43 AM, ulfarsson wrote: > >> the function sloane_find seems to be broken after the recent updates > >> to The online encyclopedia of integer sequences, oies.org. For e

[sage-devel] Re: Searching OEIS is broken

2010-11-25 Thread Donald Alan Morrison
On Nov 25, 7:43 am, ulfarsson wrote: > Hi, > > the function sloane_find seems to be broken after the recent updates > to The online encyclopedia of integer sequences, oies.org. For example > > sloane_find([1,2,3,4,5,6]) > > does not find anything in the database. The oies has also taken down > t