[sage-devel] Re: Sage and commercial software

2009-11-24 Thread rjf
On Nov 24, 1:07 pm, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Nov 24, 2009, at 12:10 PM, rjf wrote: > > > > No one is claiming that there aren't (gross) inefficiencies in the   > system, but I am one of many who subscribe to the belief that most of   > the time completion provides better results than the lack

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and commercial software

2009-11-24 Thread rjf
On Nov 24, 12:37 pm, William Stein wrote: > > (RJF) For example, claiming great advantages to rewriting working software > > in the language du jour (currently, Python). > > FUD. Sage does *vastly* more than "rewrite working software". I did not say that was the only thing that Sage does. And

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and commercial software

2009-11-24 Thread mhampton
I don't think there is really a question that Matlab is the leader for signal processing. Sage does include some functionality for it through scipy's signal module: http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/signal.html which has been all I have needed (but I don't do much signal processing). -M

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and commercial software

2009-11-24 Thread rjf
On Nov 24, 12:37 pm, William Stein wrote: > >(RJF) Thus someone doing signal processing calculations will likely choose > > the system with the best signal processing library. > > >(RJF) Is that Sage? > >(WS) Is that Maxima? Unlikely. Matlab has a popular signal processing library. http://ww

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage and commercial software

2009-11-24 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Nov 24, 2009, at 12:10 PM, rjf wrote: > David Kirby's comments on competition stuck in my mind as I was doing > some errands this morning, and his repeating them suggested to me that > maybe I should comment again. > > For a start, the healthy competition he refers to between Intel and > AMD. P

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage and commercial software

2009-11-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:10 PM, rjf wrote: > While I am not opposed to competition per se, I am quite doubtful of > some of the competition proposed here. > For example, claiming great advantages to rewriting working software > in the language du jour (currently, Python). FUD. Sage does *vastly

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and commercial software

2009-11-24 Thread rjf
David Kirby's comments on competition stuck in my mind as I was doing some errands this morning, and his repeating them suggested to me that maybe I should comment again. For a start, the healthy competition he refers to between Intel and AMD. Perhaps he has not noticed the substantial amount of m

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and commercial software

2009-11-24 Thread john_perry_usm
On Nov 24, 1:25 am, Martin Rubey wrote: > "Dr. David Kirkby" writes: > > > I find it hard to believe Sage will not have a negative impact on the > > sales of Mathematica, but I certainly hope Sage does not put Wolfram > > Research out of business. I very much doubt it will either. > > I am with y

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and commercial software

2009-11-24 Thread kcrisman
> I do not think so. There are really big names (RJF, Robert Dodier and > others) behind Maxima. As I understand from curricula vitae of some > Sage develepers (E. Burcin, O. Certik, W. Stein, M. Hampton, K. D. > Crisman, ..), the typical Sage developer is very young. Sage is > wonderful project,

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and commercial software

2009-11-24 Thread mark mcclure
On Nov 23, 11:01 pm, mhampton wrote: > I thought that Mark McClure's post on another thread raised some > interesting issues, and that it was worth responding to, but it was so > tangential that it deserves a seperate thread: Thank you to Marshall for a thoughtful response. I agree with just abo

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and commercial software

2009-11-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Nov 24, 7:25 am, Martin Rubey wrote: > I am with your hope (how to say this properly?).  At any rate, I think > its realistic though that sage will put > >     maxima, fricas (axiom, open-axiom), reduce, giac, etc. > > eventually "out of business". I see this totally different: Sage or any oth

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and commercial software

2009-11-24 Thread ma...@mendelu.cz
On 24 lis, 07:25, Martin Rubey wrote: > "Dr. David Kirkby" writes: > > > I find it hard to believe Sage will not have a negative impact on the > > sales of Mathematica, but I certainly hope Sage does not put Wolfram > > Research out of business. I very much doubt it will either. > > I am with you