Re: [sage-devel] Re: Porting SageMath to Windows 64

2015-10-08 Thread Bill Hart
Actually, I suppose there is some common overlap, namely in those packages which currently don't build on Windows 64 that don't have a posix layer requirement. Those could be useful ports for both SageMath and for Julia. So there is perhaps still some hope for something. Bill. On Thursday, 8 O

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Porting SageMath to Windows 64

2015-10-08 Thread Bill Hart
On Thursday, 8 October 2015 12:28:36 UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2015-10-08 12:22, Bill Hart wrote: > > Currently, projects like Gap require far too much posix to make it easy > > to build them any other way but with the posix layer, and then it is no > > longer a native application.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Porting SageMath to Windows 64

2015-10-08 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2015-10-08 12:22, Bill Hart wrote: Currently, projects like Gap require far too much posix to make it easy to build them any other way but with the posix layer, and then it is no longer a native application. There is one thing I don't understand in this whole discussion: what's the problem

[sage-devel] Re: Porting SageMath to Windows 64

2015-10-08 Thread Bill Hart
On Thursday, 8 October 2015 10:26:06 UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 11:27:25 PM UTC+2, Bill Hart wrote: >> >> OK, after more reading I find that these are the main benefits of MSYS2 >> over Cygwin: >> >> * Support for interop with mingw-w64 built package

[sage-devel] Re: Porting SageMath to Windows 64

2015-10-08 Thread Simon King
Hi Bill, On 2015-10-07, Bill Hart wrote: > 4GB of Ram should be enough for anyone. :-) I have it on my laptop, and it is hardly enough to reasonably build the Sage documentation with make -j2... Cheers, Simon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-

[sage-devel] Re: Porting SageMath to Windows 64

2015-10-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 11:27:25 PM UTC+2, Bill Hart wrote: > > OK, after more reading I find that these are the main benefits of MSYS2 > over Cygwin: > > * Support for interop with mingw-w64 built packages. > * Ability to switch from MSYS to MinGW mode by setting an environment > vari

[sage-devel] Re: Porting SageMath to Windows 64

2015-10-07 Thread Bill Hart
OK, after more reading I find that these are the main benefits of MSYS2 over Cygwin: * Support for interop with mingw-w64 built packages. * Ability to switch from MSYS to MinGW mode by setting an environment variable (MSYSTEM). * Automatic conversion on the fly in the msys2.0.dll between differe

[sage-devel] Re: Porting SageMath to Windows 64

2015-10-07 Thread Bill Hart
Gap built fine for me under MSYS2. There was one warning. (I used MPIR not GMP.) However, I see why Gap built fine. Like Cygwin, MSYS2 sets sizeof(long) to 8. When I earlier said otherwise, I had in fact set up my MSYS2 to use the mingw-w64, and this builds things without the posix layer. Of

[sage-devel] Re: Porting SageMath to Windows 64

2015-10-07 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 8:08:30 PM UTC+2, Bill Hart wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 19:54:30 UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 07:35:22 UTC-7, Bill Hart wrote: >>> >>> HI all, >>> >>> William Stein recently bemoaned the fact that SageMath c

[sage-devel] Re: Porting SageMath to Windows 64

2015-10-07 Thread Bill Hart
On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 19:54:30 UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 07:35:22 UTC-7, Bill Hart wrote: >> >> HI all, >> >> William Stein recently bemoaned the fact that SageMath currently only >> runs natively on some brands of Linux, and not natively on the lat

[sage-devel] Re: Porting SageMath to Windows 64

2015-10-07 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 07:35:22 UTC-7, Bill Hart wrote: > > HI all, > > William Stein recently bemoaned the fact that SageMath currently only runs > natively on some brands of Linux, and not natively on the latest Windows or > OSX (that is to say nothing of BSD). [1] > > Until recently, a

[sage-devel] Re: Porting SageMath to Windows 64

2015-10-07 Thread kcrisman
> William Stein recently bemoaned the fact that SageMath currently only runs > natively on some brands of Linux, and not natively on the latest Windows or > OSX (that is to say nothing of BSD). [1] > > Sage works on FreeBSD, or did recently, anyway; I haven't heard anything recently. See