[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:14 PM, rjf wrote: > > There has been some discussion on sage-flame, but since it is > continuing here, I > would like to mention that Bjarke's comments, which seem to me to be > quite constructive, > have shown a substantial weakness in the computer systems design > asp

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread rjf
There has been some discussion on sage-flame, but since it is continuing here, I would like to mention that Bjarke's comments, which seem to me to be quite constructive, have shown a substantial weakness in the computer systems design aspects of Sage, since so few people involved have a substantia

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread Bjarke Hammersholt Roune
I wanted to spark a discussion about this because I have a perception that it has not been discussed in a non-inflammatory way, and talking about it in a non-inflammatory way might have people come up with ideas where otherwise they wouldn't think about it. This has been a valuable experience for

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread Bjarke Hammersholt Roune
> But as much as I know, it is highly encouraged (and AFAIK > quite common) that people post at sage-devel or sage-combinat before > they work on a big project or if a high-level strategic decision is to > be made. It appears reasonable to me that this "doing things in > public" is a good (perhaps

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread Simon King
Hi Bjarke! On 20 Sep., 14:51, Bjarke Hammersholt Roune wrote: > > In that case, could you explain what you did intend, since evidently I > > completely misunderstood you.    Are you proposing creating wiki > > pages, or a survey paper, or a directory of experts or? > > Benefiting from experience

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Bjarke Hammersholt Roune wrote: > >> In that case, could you explain what you did intend, since evidently I >> completely misunderstood you.    Are you proposing creating wiki >> pages, or a survey paper, or a directory of experts or? >> > Benefiting from experien

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread Bjarke Hammersholt Roune
> In that case, could you explain what you did intend, since evidently I > completely misunderstood you.Are you proposing creating wiki > pages, or a survey paper, or a directory of experts or? > Benefiting from experience is good. From using the search, the topic of how to do that more has no

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Bjarke Hammersholt Roune wrote: > >> Your disguising a dubious claim in the form of a question: Since Sage >> developers just do the first thing that pops into their head, how can >> we find a way to fix this problem?   However, implicit in the question >> is the

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-20 Thread Bjarke Hammersholt Roune
> Your disguising a dubious claim in the form of a question: Since Sage > developers just do the first thing that pops into their head, how can > we find a way to fix this problem?   However, implicit in the question > is the assertion that people who implement code for Sage often do the > "first

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-19 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sep 19, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Tom Boothby wrote: > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Bjarke Hammersholt Roune > wrote: >> >> People have been writing mathematics software for a long time and so >> people have been accumulating experiences about good ways and bad >> ways >> to do things. I'm won

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-19 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Bjarke Hammersholt Roune wrote: > > People have been writing mathematics software for a long time and so > people have been accumulating experiences about good ways and bad ways > to do things. I'm wondering how much Sage development is informed by > that experien

[sage-devel] Re: Learning from past experience

2009-09-19 Thread Tom Boothby
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Bjarke Hammersholt Roune wrote: > > People have been writing mathematics software for a long time and so > people have been accumulating experiences about good ways and bad ways > to do things. I'm wondering how much Sage development is informed by > that experien