Re: [sage-devel] Re: Crazy/dumb idea about Sage on Windows...

2014-08-24 Thread mmarco
>From my point of view, the worst part of the VM approach right now is the keyboard layout. Solving that we would have a decent solution for windows. El viernes, 22 de agosto de 2014 21:30:19 UTC+2, Volker Braun escribió: > > On Friday, August 22, 2014 7:54:57 PM UTC+1, Fernando Perez wrote: >> >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Crazy/dumb idea about Sage on Windows...

2014-08-23 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
I have a machine with a Windows8 (Ubuntu dual boot), so I can test some things for you. Best, Travis On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:30:19 AM UTC+9, Volker Braun wrote: > > On Friday, August 22, 2014 7:54:57 PM UTC+1, Fernando Perez wrote: >> >> - a headless VM is less 'alien' to user. T\(they c

[sage-devel] Re: Crazy/dumb idea about Sage on Windows...

2014-08-23 Thread mmarco
> > > Their .sage and .ipynb files would live on the windows side, but if they > have some data they want to analyze (like a file to read in, or a file > to save to), they'd still have to somehow get that data into/out of the > VM. You're right that it's easier than what we have, though! > >

[sage-devel] Re: Crazy/dumb idea about Sage on Windows...

2014-08-22 Thread Jason Grout
On 8/22/14, 0:45, Fernando Perez wrote: Because our execution model decouples the kernel from the filesystem, the user gets their 'normal' environment, files, etc, and they don't really need to know anything about the VM to get to their work, their directories, etc. Their .sage and .ipynb files

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Crazy/dumb idea about Sage on Windows...

2014-08-22 Thread Volker Braun
On Friday, August 22, 2014 7:54:57 PM UTC+1, Fernando Perez wrote: > > - a headless VM is less 'alien' to user. T\(they can use their familiar > browser, extensions, etc, and they don't have to see a new desktop. The > whole 'destkop in a desktop' can be confusing to new users. > I agree, which

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Crazy/dumb idea about Sage on Windows...

2014-08-22 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Volker Braun wrote: > That is not so unlike the current VM which runs the sage notebook web > server. You can then connect to it with the host browser, if you want (it > does pop up a browser inside the VM because 1. why not and 2. firewall > issues). Yup, I kno

[sage-devel] Re: Crazy/dumb idea about Sage on Windows...

2014-08-22 Thread mmarco
> Install one in a VM :) > The reasons why i don't run windows on my computers still apply to running windows on VM's on my computers. Besides, a VM that runs inside a VM is probably not a good idea for testing the possible problems that this GUI would encounter in real life. -- You receiv

[sage-devel] Re: Crazy/dumb idea about Sage on Windows...

2014-08-22 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Friday, August 22, 2014 2:05:44 PM UTC+2, mmarco wrote: > > > In fact, there was a GSoC proposal to write some simple GUI that would > handle the VM: check for firewall issues, open the VM's browser if there > are, and run the VM in headless mode if there are not, also handle the > actualiz

[sage-devel] Re: Crazy/dumb idea about Sage on Windows...

2014-08-22 Thread mmarco
In fact, there was a GSoC proposal to write some simple GUI that would handle the VM: check for firewall issues, open the VM's browser if there are, and run the VM in headless mode if there are not, also handle the actualizations of the VM and so on. Sadly, no student decided to go for that pr

[sage-devel] Re: Crazy/dumb idea about Sage on Windows...

2014-08-22 Thread Volker Braun
That is not so unlike the current VM which runs the sage notebook web server. You can then connect to it with the host browser, if you want (it does pop up a browser inside the VM because 1. why not and 2. firewall issues). On Friday, August 22, 2014 5:46:28 AM UTC+1, Fernando Perez wrote: >