[sage-devel] Re: #sage-devel IRC channel registration has lapsed

2010-12-14 Thread Keshav Kini
It seems that #sage is already registered, though nobody has said anything there since July of this year. I talked to the owner of the channel - he is a member of the USENIX Special Interest Group for Sysadmins ( http://sage.org/ ) and says that other users of that organization sometimes use #sage

[sage-devel] Re: #sage-devel IRC channel registration has lapsed

2010-12-14 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Hi William, could you perhaps take care of this? On Dec 14, 5:43 pm, Keshav Kini wrote: > After some consultation with a freenode oper, it seems that there is a > rather humongous backlog of group registration forms that have been > filled and are waiting for processing ("thousands"), but if a so

[sage-devel] Re: #sage-devel IRC channel registration has lapsed

2010-12-14 Thread Keshav Kini
After some consultation with a freenode oper, it seems that there is a rather humongous backlog of group registration forms that have been filled and are waiting for processing ("thousands"), but if a software project needs their group registration processed in order to regain control of a channel,

[sage-devel] Re: #sage-devel IRC channel registration has lapsed

2010-12-14 Thread Keshav Kini
There's actually a freenode policy which recommends against using "primary channels" (ones that start with # and not ##) unless they're associated with a "primary group", which is basically a software project registered with freenode and with known contact persons. Has anyone tried applying for "sa

[sage-devel] Re: #sage-devel IRC channel registration has lapsed

2010-12-14 Thread leif
On 14 Dez., 08:09, Keshav Kini wrote: > The #sage-devel IRC channel is not currently registered in anyone's > name on the freenode network (was it ever?), which means that nobody > can obtain operator privileges in it unless everyone leaves, the > channel thus gets purged, and then someone joins i

[sage-devel] Re: #sage-devel on irc

2009-09-30 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Marshall Hampton wrote: > I was marveling at the broad distribution as well yesterday, its great > to see.  While developers are still mostly in Europe and the US, > things are improving.  I think we could probably benefit from more > exposure in South America, >

[sage-devel] Re: #sage-devel on irc

2009-09-30 Thread Jason Grout
Marshall Hampton wrote: > I think Jason is in Iowa, not Idaho. Often confused by coastal folks, > but very different. > Yep, that's right. I hear that in the winter, we in Iowa feel colder than the folks in Idaho. (though Marshall, you are probably colder yet!) > I was marveling at the br

[sage-devel] Re: #sage-devel on irc

2009-09-30 Thread Marshall Hampton
I think Jason is in Iowa, not Idaho. Often confused by coastal folks, but very different. I was marveling at the broad distribution as well yesterday, its great to see. While developers are still mostly in Europe and the US, things are improving. I think we could probably benefit from more exp

[sage-devel] Re: #sage-devel log

2009-09-25 Thread Pat LeSmithe
Harald Schilly wrote: > On Sep 24, 9:39 pm, William Stein wrote: >> We should setup something >> maybe more longterm, say on sagemath.org itself? >> > > +1 > ~/www-files/irc/ sounds good for me, I can handle the rest ;) I'm not sure if its easy to use programmatically, but I found an IRC log f

[sage-devel] Re: #sage-devel log

2009-09-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sep 24, 9:39 pm, William Stein wrote: > We should setup something > maybe more longterm, say on sagemath.org itself? > +1 ~/www-files/irc/ sounds good for me, I can handle the rest ;) H --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@g

[sage-devel] Re: #sage-devel log

2009-09-24 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Harald Schilly wrote: > > > > On Sep 24, 9:02 pm, William Stein wrote: >>    http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/tmp/sage-devel.log >> > > is "tmp" the final directory and does some logrotate without > compression happen? Well tmp is because I couldn't

[sage-devel] Re: #sage-devel log

2009-09-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sep 24, 9:02 pm, William Stein wrote: >    http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/tmp/sage-devel.log > is "tmp" the final directory and does some logrotate without compression happen? I can add the directory to the sage specific search on the website, then it's easy to search the logs!

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel posting problems

2009-09-13 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Peter, On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2009-Sep-14 06:34:21 +1000, Minh Nguyen wrote: >>I have configured the member management option to allow you to post to >>sage-devel. Can you please try again to post to sage-devel? Please >>inform me if you still experience th

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel posting problems

2009-09-13 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi David, On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:58 AM, David Joyner wrote: > It appears that sometime in Auguest, several google groups started having the > same "all of a sudden I can't post" problems. I'm a member of the sage-combinat-devel Google group. However, all of my emails to that group so far

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel posting problems

2009-09-13 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:58 PM, David Joyner wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:47 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:45 PM, David Joyner wrote: >>> >>> This is weird. I don't know the explanation. Hopefully, a fix >>> will happen soon. >>> >>> Others are having this pr

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel posting problems

2009-09-13 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:47 PM, William Stein wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:45 PM, David Joyner wrote: >> >> This is weird. I don't know the explanation. Hopefully, a fix >> will happen soon. >> >> Others are having this problem too. > > Who? I assumed it was the same problem that Simo

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel posting problems

2009-09-13 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:45 PM, David Joyner wrote: > > This is weird. I don't know the explanation. Hopefully, a fix > will happen soon. > > Others are having this problem too. Who? William > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Peter wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was recently forced to change email

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel posting problems

2009-09-13 Thread David Joyner
This is weird. I don't know the explanation. Hopefully, a fix will happen soon. Others are having this problem too. On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Peter wrote: > Hi, > > I was recently forced to change email addresses when, without warning, > my ISP disabled the domain I had been using.  Unfo

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-10 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:56:16AM -0700, Simon King wrote: > On Sep 10, 1:45 pm, Jan Groenewald wrote: > [...] > > 0 j...@muizenberg:~$sage -t test.py > > ERROR: File ./test.py is missing > > exit code: 1 > > Strange. If test.py is in your current directory, why isn't it found? That is wha

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-10 Thread fwc
On Sep 10, 12:14 pm, Jan Groenewald wrote: > I am now trying to learn clone and hg to apply the patch at > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/attachment/ticket/6861/trac_6861_n... > ... > patch failed, unable to continue (try -v) > patch failed, rejects left in working dir The easy way to ap

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-10 Thread Simon King
Hi Jan! On Sep 10, 1:45 pm, Jan Groenewald wrote: [...] > 0 j...@muizenberg:~$sage -t test.py > ERROR: File ./test.py is missing > exit code: 1 Strange. If test.py is in your current directory, why isn't it found? > 0 j...@muizenberg:~$sage -t ~/test.py > sage -t  "/home/jan/test.py"          

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-10 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:41:47AM -0700, Simon King wrote: > On Sep 10, 1:01 pm, Jan Groenewald wrote: > > 0 j...@muizenberg:~$vim test.py > > 0 j...@muizenberg:~$mkdir tst > > 0 j...@muizenberg:~$mv test.py tst/ > > 0 j...@muizenberg:~$export SAGE_TESTDIR=`pwd`/tst/ > > 0 j...@muizenberg:~$

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-10 Thread Simon King
Hi Jan, On Sep 10, 1:01 pm, Jan Groenewald wrote: > 0 j...@muizenberg:~$vim test.py > 0 j...@muizenberg:~$mkdir tst > 0 j...@muizenberg:~$mv test.py tst/ > 0 j...@muizenberg:~$export SAGE_TESTDIR=`pwd`/tst/ > 0 j...@muizenberg:~$sage -t test.py Sorry, when I said "test.py is in the working dire

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-10 Thread Simon King
Hi Minh, On Sep 10, 12:12 pm, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi Simon, > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Simon King wrote: > > > > > If this is part of your problem then I can elaborate on how I clumsily > > solved that problem. > > I would love to know about the steps you took to solve the problem y

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-10 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:52:48AM -0700, Simon King wrote: > > >   $ mkdir tst > > >   $ export SAGE_TESTDIR=`pwd`/tst/ > > >   $ sage -t test.py > > > where test.py is some Python file in the working directory. It > > > worked! > > > > We did this. It works with a test file doing simple inst

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-10 Thread Simon King
Hi Jan! On Sep 10, 12:14 pm, Jan Groenewald wrote: > Hi > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 03:52:08AM -0700, Simon King wrote: > > Anyway, you can use the environment variable SAGE_TESTDIR. I just did > > the following on sage.math: > >   $ mkdir tst > >   $ export SAGE_TESTDIR=`pwd`/tst/ > >   $ sage

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-10 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 03:52:08AM -0700, Simon King wrote: > Anyway, you can use the environment variable SAGE_TESTDIR. I just did > the following on sage.math: > $ mkdir tst > $ export SAGE_TESTDIR=`pwd`/tst/ > $ sage -t test.py > where test.py is some Python file in the working direct

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-10 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Simon, On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Simon King wrote: > If this is part of your problem then I can elaborate on how I clumsily > solved that problem. I would love to know about the steps you took to solve the problem you mentioned. I'm writing some documentation on how to do doctestin

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-10 Thread Simon King
Hi Jan! On Sep 10, 11:28 am, Jan Groenewald wrote: [...] > According to that I see no way for a user to use a systemwide sage > installation to test their own modules (not intended for ever > bing included in sage, just modules they write and wish to test; > in fact part of a course on sage). I

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-10 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 08:06:19PM +1000, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > In fact, I am not sure how sage -t is supposed top work. Where should the > > testfile > > be? Even root cannot run it: > > See ticket #6908 > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6908 > for some instructions on how to do

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-10 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Jan, On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Jan Groenewald wrote: > In fact, I am not sure how sage -t is supposed top work. Where should the > testfile > be? Even root cannot run it: See ticket #6908 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6908 for some instructions on how to doctest. --

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-10 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi > On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 02:49:28PM +1000, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > This issue is now ticket #6861 > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6861 On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 09:11:40AM +0200, Jan Groenewald wrote: > This issue is unresolved for me: users running sage -t in a system-wide > inst

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel was support] Re: sage -t

2009-09-08 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi This issue is unresolved for me: users running sage -t in a system-wide install owned by root. On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 02:49:28PM +1000, Minh Nguyen wrote: > This issue is now ticket #6861 > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6861 # give write permissions to everyone, same as /tmp/ 0

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel][P=NP] On The Nature of Computational Complexity

2009-04-20 Thread mark mcclure
On Apr 20, 6:25 pm, Tom Boothby wrote: > I've never really understood why this is such an interesting problem > to people. It's quite easy to solve with Sage. > >     sage: implicit_multiplication(True) >     sage: N,P = var('N,P') >     sage: solve(P == N P) >     [N == 1] What about P==0? That

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel][P=NP] On The Nature of Computational Complexity

2009-04-20 Thread Tom Boothby
Martin, I've never really understood why this is such an interesting problem to people. It's quite easy to solve with Sage. sage: implicit_multiplication(True) sage: N,P = var('N,P') sage: solve(P == N P) [N == 1] On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Martin Michael Musatov wrote:

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel]primegaps

2009-04-19 Thread Martin Musatov
My question is how do prime numbers play into ground level computational programming? What is a "troll" and what is a "couch boy"? Why is there is so much resistance from the community at large against establishment of computational complexity, specifically the claim that [P=NP] seems to be a parti

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel]

2008-05-23 Thread William Stein
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone else find the printing of 0 below inconsistent? > > sage: CC(0) > 0 > sage: RR(0) > 0.000 Yes, I agree that this is inconsistent and should be changed. Probably the right change would be: sage

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel triple-sending?

2007-01-15 Thread Jaap Spies
David Joyner wrote: I'm not but I think gmail is very smart about auto-deleting duplicates, so I suspect everyone but gmail users may have the same problem as you. I'll look into it and see if the fault is with googlegroups. Thanks for reporting it. +++ On

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel triple-sending?

2007-01-14 Thread Robert Miller
I second: on g-mail, NOT getting duplicates. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/grou

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel triple-sending?

2007-01-13 Thread Fernando Perez
On 1/13/07, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not but I think gmail is very smart about auto-deleting duplicates, so I suspect everyone but gmail users may have the same problem as you. Another datapoint for that hypothesis. I'm on gmail and I'm also NOT getting the du/tri-plicate

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel triple-sending?

2007-01-13 Thread David Joyner
I'm not but I think gmail is very smart about auto-deleting duplicates, so I suspect everyone but gmail users may have the same problem as you. I'll look into it and see if the fault is with googlegroups. Thanks for reporting it. +++ On 1/13/07, [EMAIL PROTE

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel triple-sending?

2007-01-13 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Jan 13, 2007, at 15:22 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me, or is everybody getting 3 copies of every message sent from sage-devel? It's just you. I get 2, 3, or 4 copies of each message :-} Sometimes more. And they trickle in over time... Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmu

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel triple-sending?

2007-01-13 Thread William Stein
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:31:30 -0800, Iftikhar Burhanuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is it just me, or is everybody getting 3 copies of every message sent from sage-devel? I'm getting 3-4 copies. (Took some time to figure out that I wasn't dreaming!) Weird -- you guys are lucky. I'm on

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel triple-sending?

2007-01-13 Thread Timothy Clemans
I do not think I am. On 1/13/07, Iftikhar Burhanuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it just me, or is everybody getting 3 copies of every message sent from sage-devel? I'm getting 3-4 copies. (Took some time to figure out that I wasn't dreaming!) Regards, Ifti. > --~--~-~--

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel triple-sending?

2007-01-13 Thread Iftikhar Burhanuddin
Is it just me, or is everybody getting 3 copies of every message sent from sage-devel? I'm getting 3-4 copies. (Took some time to figure out that I wasn't dreaming!) Regards, Ifti. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googl

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel triple-sending?

2007-01-13 Thread David Harvey
On Jan 13, 2007, at 6:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me, or is everybody getting 3 copies of every message sent from sage-devel? Yeah me too. Yeah me too. Yeah me too. Yeah me too. David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email