Re: [sage-devel] All of sage as a python library

2010-10-28 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Dear William, dear all, (I am CC'ing Sage-Combinat which may be interested by this thread on sage-devel) On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 06:44:21PM -0700, William Stein wrote: > (3) Have other Python libraries (like psage: > http://code.google.com/p/purplesage/source/browse/), which depend on >

Re: [sage-devel] All of sage as a python library

2010-10-28 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi William, On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 06:44:21PM -0700, William Stein wrote: > When I started Sage I viewed it as a distribution of a bunch of math > software, and Python as just the interpreter language I happen to use > at the time. I didn't even know if using Python as the language would

Re: [sage-devel] All of sage as a python library

2010-10-27 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 6:44 PM, William Stein wrote: >> Hi, >> >> When I started Sage I viewed it as a distribution of a bunch of math >> software, and Python as just the interpreter language I happen to use >> at the time.  I didn't even k

Re: [sage-devel] All of sage as a python library

2010-10-27 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 6:44 PM, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > When I started Sage I viewed it as a distribution of a bunch of math > software, and Python as just the interpreter language I happen to use > at the time.  I didn't even know if using Python as the language would > last.   However, i

Re: [sage-devel] All of sage as a python library

2010-10-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 10/27/10 02:44 AM, William Stein wrote: Hi, When I started Sage I viewed it as a distribution of a bunch of math software, and Python as just the interpreter language I happen to use at the time. I didn't even know if using Python as the language would last. However, it's also possible to

Re: [sage-devel] All of sage as a python library

2010-10-27 Thread Robert Bradshaw
An analogy. If Sage is the "journal" of code, trac is the arxiv. Unfortunately, it's not very easy to use the code on trac--the system you're proposing would make it much easier to share this kind of code. The question is, at what cost to the publication? -- To post to this group, send an email t

Re: [sage-devel] All of sage as a python library

2010-10-27 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 6:44 PM, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > When I started Sage I viewed it as a distribution of a bunch of math > software, and Python as just the interpreter language I happen to use > at the time.  I didn't even know if using Python as the language would > last.   However, i

Re: [sage-devel] All of sage as a python library

2010-10-26 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Dan Drake wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 at 06:44PM -0700, William Stein wrote: >>   (1) Have a Python library called "sagecore", which is just the most >> important standard spkg's (e.g., Singular, PARI, etc.), perhaps >> eventually built *only* as shared object li

Re: [sage-devel] All of sage as a python library

2010-10-26 Thread Dan Drake
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 at 06:44PM -0700, William Stein wrote: > (1) Have a Python library called "sagecore", which is just the most > important standard spkg's (e.g., Singular, PARI, etc.), perhaps > eventually built *only* as shared object libraries (no standalone > interpreters). What about those

Re: [sage-devel] All of sage as a python library

2010-10-26 Thread Dan Drake
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 at 06:44PM -0700, William Stein wrote: > Anyway, it has occurred to me (a few times, and again recently) that > it would be possible to make much of the Sage distribution, without > Python of course, into a Python library. What I mean is the following. > You would have a big Pyt

Re: [sage-devel] All of sage as a python library

2010-10-26 Thread Tom Boothby
I'm of mixed opinions about this. First impression: This may be easier on developers, but this could be a sturdy nail in the coffin of "Sage as a viable replacement to M*". Fragmenting Sage even further is going to make it harder to install, and harder to ensure any standards of * quality * p

[sage-devel] All of sage as a python library

2010-10-26 Thread William Stein
Hi, When I started Sage I viewed it as a distribution of a bunch of math software, and Python as just the interpreter language I happen to use at the time. I didn't even know if using Python as the language would last. However, it's also possible to think of Sage as a Python library. Anyway, i