Re: [sage-devel] PROPOSAL: remove python3 spkg from Sage

2025-04-12 Thread 'tobia...@gmx.de' via sage-devel
Marc, what is your opinion about replacing "building from source" in the Python spkg by "installing the prebuild pythons from astral/python-build-standalone"? Would this work for the MacOS app; and if not why? Other popular projects, like anki and influxdb, seem to use these builds for their e

Re: [sage-devel] PROPOSAL: remove python3 spkg from Sage

2025-04-12 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 8:48 PM Marc Culler wrote: > > On Saturday, April 12, 2025 at 9:57:50 PM UTC-5 Dima wrote: > > this is what many users need - to be able to install Sage into an existing > Python environment; thus support is provided for a range of pythons. > > > That is what I said in my

Re: [sage-devel] PROPOSAL: remove python3 spkg from Sage

2025-04-12 Thread Marc Culler
On Saturday, April 12, 2025 at 9:57:50 PM UTC-5 Dima wrote: this is what many users need - to be able to install Sage into an existing Python environment; thus support is provided for a range of pythons. That is what I said in my last message. There is no need to repeat it back to me. Cat

Re: [sage-devel] PROPOSAL: remove python3 spkg from Sage

2025-04-12 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 12 April 2025 14:33:03 GMT-05:00, Marc Culler wrote: >On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 1:01 PM Nils Bruin wrote: > >I get the impression that the concern is about maintenance load: when the >> project takes on the commitment to build python then it must update the >> python build package whenever th

Re: [sage-devel] PROPOSAL: remove python3 spkg from Sage

2025-04-12 Thread Marc Culler
On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 1:01 PM Nils Bruin wrote: I get the impression that the concern is about maintenance load: when the > project takes on the commitment to build python then it must update the > python build package whenever this is required for supporting current > operating systems. Appare

Re: [sage-devel] PROPOSAL: remove python3 spkg from Sage

2025-04-12 Thread Nils Bruin
On Friday, 11 April 2025 at 15:55:39 UTC-7 marc@gmail.com wrote: The obvious questions which this raises and which have still not been answered here are: What is so wrong with this process? Why do we have to break it? Why can't we at least leave the Sage spkg in place until there is an