Re: [sage-devel] PROPOSAL: remove python3 spkg from Sage

2025-04-03 Thread Marc Culler
This will unnecessarily make it more difficult to build the Sage_mac OS binary package. In order to make that package easy to install in the way that normal macOS users expect, it must be signed and notarized. In order to notarize the package it must be self-contained. Not signing and notari

Re: [sage-devel] PROPOSAL: remove python3 spkg from Sage

2025-04-03 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 7:06 PM Trevor Karn wrote: > > Maybe we can all take a breath here. Everyone here is passionate about making > Sage as good as it can be. This seems to be getting a bit too heated right > now. > +1 - I just wanted to offer some helpful links and support, and now I feel l

Re: [sage-devel] PROPOSAL: remove python3 spkg from Sage

2025-04-03 Thread Trevor Karn
Maybe we can all take a breath here. Everyone here is passionate about making Sage as good as it can be. This seems to be getting a bit too heated right now. On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 8:55 PM Marc Culler wrote: > Actually, that does not even come close to solving the problem. > > You don't have a

Re: [sage-devel] PROPOSAL: remove python3 spkg from Sage

2025-04-03 Thread Marc Culler
Actually, that does not even come close to solving the problem. You don't have any experience with building the Sage_macOS package, obviously, so you don't know what the problems are. - Marc On Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 8:45:48 PM UTC-5 dim...@gmail.com wrote: > On 3 April 2025 17:48:00 GMT-0

Re: [sage-devel] PROPOSAL: remove python3 spkg from Sage

2025-04-03 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 3 April 2025 17:48:00 GMT-05:00, Marc Culler wrote: >This will unnecessarily make it more difficult to build the Sage_mac OS >binary package. In order to make that package easy to install in the way >that normal macOS users expect, it must be signed and notarized. In order >to notarize the p

Re: [sage-devel] PROPOSAL: remove python3 spkg from Sage

2025-04-03 Thread Marc Culler
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 6:35 PM William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 3:48 PM Marc Culler wrote: > > > > This will unnecessarily make it more difficult to build the Sage_mac OS > binary package. In order to make that package easy to install in the way > that normal macOS users expect, i

Re: [sage-devel] PROPOSAL: remove python3 spkg from Sage

2025-04-03 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 3:48 PM Marc Culler wrote: > > This will unnecessarily make it more difficult to build the Sage_mac OS > binary package. In order to make that package easy to install in the way > that normal macOS users expect, it must be signed and notarized. In order to > notarize t

Re: [sage-devel] SageMath Now Supports Meson – Faster and More Efficient Builds!

2025-04-03 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 7:51 AM William Stein wrote: > Congrats and fantastic! Is it possible that you could add some > additional "human context" for those of us on the sidelines, e.g., who > added Meson support to Sage (you?), why?, how hard what is and how > long did it take?, what was involv

Re: [sage-devel] SageMath Now Supports Meson – Faster and More Efficient Builds!

2025-04-03 Thread William Stein
Tobias, Congrats and fantastic! Is it possible that you could add some additional "human context" for those of us on the sidelines, e.g., who added Meson support to Sage (you?), why?, how hard what is and how long did it take?, what was involved? Also, to what extent does Meson replace autotool

[sage-devel] SageMath Now Supports Meson – Faster and More Efficient Builds!

2025-04-03 Thread 'tobia...@gmx.de' via sage-devel
Dear developers, I am excited to announce that SageMath now supports the Meson build system! This modern alternative to Autotools brings several key advantages: - *Faster Builds* – Meson significantly reduces configuration and compilation time due to better parallelism (some benchmark