Re: [sage-devel] Developer guide for casual user

2018-09-21 Thread William Stein
Since Travis answered, I'll also throw in some answers for variety (I mainly going to mention things that are complementary)... On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 9:29 AM, Andy Howell wrote: > How to setup a testing environment that won't interfere with my > installed sage. I would *always* install a compl

Re: [sage-devel] latex for desolve results

2018-09-21 Thread Andy Howell
Samuel, I am the personification of preoccupations upon preoccupations. No problem. My meager attempt lead me to pynac as well, though not into the library itself. I do know C++, so maybe I can make some progress there. I cloned pynac. There are some dependencies to work out to get it to build.

[sage-devel] Re: Developer guide for casual user

2018-09-21 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
Hi Andy, It would be great to improve our methodologies for recruiting/training new contributors and developers, and I am happy to hear you are willing to work on this. I'm a casual user of sage and python. I know a little of both, but far > far from expert. There have been a number of very

[sage-devel] Re: Developer guide for casual user

2018-09-21 Thread Samuel Lelievre
Hi Andy, thanks for your offer to make it easier to contribute to Sage by adding tips to the developer guide. I'm sure the community will jump in to help where needed. Regarding the latex formatting issue you reported three weeks ago, I opened a ticket to track progress: - Sage Trac ticket 26337

Re: [sage-devel] latex for desolve results

2018-09-21 Thread Samuel Lelievre
Andy, three weeks ago, after the partial exploration discussed on this list, I switched to other preoccupations and forgot to get back to this. To recap and go a little further, here is how I would describe the issue and some steps to explore it: Current: sage: h = e^-x sage: latex(h)

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Deprecate and remove/relocate explain_pickle module?

2018-09-21 Thread Dima Pasechnik
+1 from me too. On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 6:08 PM Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > +1 on splitting it out as a standalone Python package. With a bit of luck, a > new set of contributors for it can be found that way. > > On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 11:06:47 AM UTC-4, Erik Bray wrote: >> >> On Fri, Se

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Deprecate and remove/relocate explain_pickle module?

2018-09-21 Thread Matthias Koeppe
+1 on splitting it out as a standalone Python package. With a bit of luck, a new set of contributors for it can be found that way. On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 11:06:47 AM UTC-4, Erik Bray wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 4:29 PM Nils Bruin > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 21, 20

[sage-devel] Developer guide for casual user

2018-09-21 Thread Andy Howell
I'm a casual user of sage and python. I know a little of both, but far far from expert. There have been a number of very minor bugs that I could fix, but was stymied because I don't know, or have forgotten, how to debug sage code, how to find the code be called etc. To the regular sage developer th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Deprecate and remove/relocate explain_pickle module?

2018-09-21 Thread Erik Bray
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 4:29 PM Nils Bruin wrote: > > On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 1:46:47 AM UTC-7, Erik Bray wrote: >> >> There is a cool module in sage called sage.misc.explain_pickle, which >> is useful for helping to understand and debug how non-trivial objects >> in Sage are pickled and

[sage-devel] Re: Deprecate and remove/relocate explain_pickle module?

2018-09-21 Thread Nils Bruin
On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 1:46:47 AM UTC-7, Erik Bray wrote: > > There is a cool module in sage called sage.misc.explain_pickle, which > is useful for helping to understand and debug how non-trivial objects > in Sage are pickled and unpickled. > > I am adding another testimonial on the u

Re: [sage-devel] Deprecate and remove/relocate explain_pickle module?

2018-09-21 Thread Erik Bray
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 3:00 PM Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > It must be said that I found this tool quite valuable. When unpickling > goes wrong, it is typically not easy to find out why and explain_pickle > does help with that. > > That being said, if nobody wants to maintain it, it has to go (with

Re: [sage-devel] Deprecate and remove/relocate explain_pickle module?

2018-09-21 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
It must be said that I found this tool quite valuable. When unpickling goes wrong, it is typically not easy to find out why and explain_pickle does help with that. That being said, if nobody wants to maintain it, it has to go (with praise, as you said)... -- You received this message because

Re: [sage-devel] check dependencies

2018-09-21 Thread Thierry
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 01:40:38PM +0100, dimp...@gmail.com wrote: [...] > IMHO we don't want such legacy things as standard... Agreed. But how should we deal with testing networkx ? Ciao, Thierry > > Dima > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >

Re: [sage-devel] check dependencies

2018-09-21 Thread dimpase
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 02:27:13PM +0200, Thierry wrote: > Hi, > > on the way to upgrading networkx, i noticed that the source code contains > tests, but we do not ship any spkg-check script for that (yet). > > However, the check process requires nose, which is an optional package > (note that ne

[sage-devel] check dependencies

2018-09-21 Thread Thierry
Hi, on the way to upgrading networkx, i noticed that the source code contains tests, but we do not ship any spkg-check script for that (yet). However, the check process requires nose, which is an optional package (note that networkx is standard). Is there a way to declare "check dependencies" (e.

Re: [sage-devel] sage foundation ???

2018-09-21 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:42 AM William Stein wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 1:07 AM Frédéric Chapoton wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Apparently, people can "donate to the SAGE foundation" using this link : >> https://www.washington.edu/giving/make-a-gift/?page=make&Code=MATSAG >> >> which is

Re: [sage-devel] sage foundation ???

2018-09-21 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 1:07 AM Frédéric Chapoton wrote: > Hello, > > Apparently, people can "donate to the SAGE foundation" using this link : > https://www.washington.edu/giving/make-a-gift/?page=make&Code=MATSAG > > which is advertised here : http://www.sagemath.org/development-ack.html > > Who i

[sage-devel] Deprecate and remove/relocate explain_pickle module?

2018-09-21 Thread Erik Bray
There is a cool module in sage called sage.misc.explain_pickle, which is useful for helping to understand and debug how non-trivial objects in Sage are pickled and unpickled. However, it's a big, fairly complicated module which carries quite a bit of technical debt with it, and relatively little o

[sage-devel] sage foundation ???

2018-09-21 Thread Frédéric Chapoton
Hello, Apparently, people can "donate to the SAGE foundation" using this link : https://www.washington.edu/giving/make-a-gift/?page=make&Code=MATSAG which is advertised here : http://www.sagemath.org/development-ack.html Who is in charge ? How much money is collected (I would guess almost noth