[sage-devel] Re: Bug? Sympy, Fricas & Giac can solve this simple integral, why not Maxima?

2017-10-19 Thread Ralf Stephan
The immediate reason is that maxima returns: Principal Value (%o4) 2 and Sage since #7377 (7 years ago) catches "Principal Value" and makes it divergent. See https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/7377 for reasons this was introduced. There are tickets that urge to fix

Re: [sage-devel] Giac fails to build

2017-10-19 Thread Timo Kaufmann
After adding one more depencency (hevea) the compilation succeeds. Thank you for your help. It needs quite some dependencies that are not mentioned on the README's instructions though (like hevea and texlive). Are those just undocumented or does it depend on some build options? -- You receive

Re: [sage-devel] How do I overwrite comparison for modules?

2017-10-19 Thread Simon Brandhorst
Well richcmp allows you to define just one method. But it does not save you any work at all if the order is partial. Because then you have to distinguish the cases op = op_LE , op_GE, op_LT ... etc. so all that you save is documentation and everything is more obscure. I also tried the ric

Re: [sage-devel] rst2ipynb: tarball does not exist on mirror network

2017-10-19 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:25:07PM +0200, Vincent Delecroix wrote: > Error downloading rst2ipynb-0.2.2.tar.gz Context? Not directly related, but for information I released yesterday rst2ipynb 0.2.3, which includes Jeroen's patches and improved handling of Python's code blocks, courtesy of Jason K

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-19 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > the 1-click openssl install image for OSX is called Xcode, and one can go > for a long lunch while waiting for it to finish, even on a fast network... > > Apple should pick up the bill for these lunches, and much more,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What does MPolynomial_libsingular.reduce() do?

2017-10-19 Thread Luca De Feo
Thanks everyone for the discussion. I opened https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/24071 to improve the docstring of reduce(). It's ready for review, let's continue the discussion there. > In Singular's implementation p' does not depend on the order of the > polynomials in I because it starts with so

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
the 1-click openssl install image for OSX is called Xcode, and one can go for a long lunch while waiting for it to finish, even on a fast network... Apple should pick up the bill for these lunches, and much more, I fully agree. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

Re: [sage-devel] Giac fails to build

2017-10-19 Thread François Bissey
> On 20/10/2017, at 09:58, Timo Kaufmann wrote: > > So do you think that sed command actually fixed the first error? Yes, I think your second error was way after compiling the file giving you the first error. François -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

Re: [sage-devel] Giac fails to build

2017-10-19 Thread Timo Kaufmann
Okay, I've added automake-1.11 and a full texlive install to the deps. I'll rerun the build and see how it turns out. So do you think that sed command actually fixed the first error? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-19 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 08:07:19PM +0200, Luca De Feo wrote: > |X| Yes, we should fully support OpenSSL now, and clarify the > licensing issue. > > > the way our > > "package manager" works allows to install an optional package without > > having to rely on openssl (no https), we only rel

Re: [sage-devel] Giac fails to build

2017-10-19 Thread François Bissey
> On 20/10/2017, at 09:43, François Bissey wrote: > > textile texlive - thank you autocorrect. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsu

Re: [sage-devel] Giac fails to build

2017-10-19 Thread François Bissey
> On 20/10/2017, at 09:36, Timo Kaufmann wrote: > > With that change the build still fails, just for a different reason: > > ``` > Making install in doc > make[1]: Entering directory > '/home/timo/nix/shell/sage-8.0/local/var/tmp/sage/build/giac-1.2.3.47.p0/src/doc' > Making install in en > m

Re: [sage-devel] Giac fails to build

2017-10-19 Thread Timo Kaufmann
With that change the build still fails, just for a different reason: ``` Making install in doc make[1]: Entering directory '/home/timo/nix/shell/sage-8.0/local/var/tmp/sage/build/giac-1.2.3.47.p0/src/doc' Making install in en make[2]: Entering directory '/home/timo/nix/shell/sage-8.0/local/var/t

[sage-devel] rst2ipynb: tarball does not exist on mirror network

2017-10-19 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Error downloading rst2ipynb-0.2.2.tar.gz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

Re: [sage-devel] Giac fails to build

2017-10-19 Thread Timo Kaufmann
No, the build started from https://github.com/sagemath/sage/archive/8.0.tar.gz The weird looking path names are normal in nixos[1], since it writes every package under a path containing the hash of its build inputs. [1]: https://nixos.org/ Am Donnerstag, 19. Oktober 2017 15:18:56 UTC-5 schrieb

Re: [sage-devel] Giac fails to build

2017-10-19 Thread Timo Kaufmann
Thanks for taking a look at it. Yes, the spkg-install is modified: ``` --- old/build/pkgs/giac/spkg-install 2017-07-21 14:10:00.0 -0500 +++ new/build/pkgs/giac/spkg-install 2017-10-15 15:55:55.321237645 -0500 @@ -4,6 +4,8 @@ ## Giac ### +find . -

Re: [sage-devel] Giac fails to build

2017-10-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
have you by any chance started from a binary Sage install rather than from the source (these weird looking path names in the log suggest this)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emai

Re: [sage-devel] Giac fails to build

2017-10-19 Thread François Bissey
It looks to me like your spkg-install for giac has custom modifications. From the log Host system: Linux pad 4.9.56 #1-NixOS SMP Thu Oct 12 19:24:22 UTC 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux C compiler: gcc C

Re: [sage-devel] Live documentation with Thebe reloaded

2017-10-19 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 08:50:01PM +0200, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > > Doesn't work for me (Firefox 45 on Linux). I see the Activate button and the > > code examples change but nothing becomes interactive. Forgot to mention: if you open the javascript console (shift-ctrl-K on Firefox/linux), you c

Re: [sage-devel] Live documentation with Thebe reloaded

2017-10-19 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:07:00PM +0200, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > Doesn't work for me (Firefox 45 on Linux). I see the Activate button and the > code examples change but nothing becomes interactive. Hmm, presumably beta.mybinder.org being slow at certain times of the day. Which is saying that we s

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-19 Thread Luca De Feo
|X| Yes, we should fully support OpenSSL now, and clarify the licensing issue. > the way our > "package manager" works allows to install an optional package without > having to rely on openssl (no https), we only rely on the computation of > sha1 There you go for something crippled! https://

[sage-devel] Re: What does MPolynomial_libsingular.reduce() do?

2017-10-19 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
Hans added that one should not rely on the behaviour that Singular reorders the list. This may change in a future version of Singular. He mentioned it only to explain the behaviour that is currently observed. On Thursday, 19 October 2017 11:20:05 UTC+2, Bill Hart wrote: > > According to Hans Sch

[sage-devel] Bug? Sympy, Fricas & Giac can solve this simple integral, why not Maxima?

2017-10-19 Thread M. Fernandez
As it is well known the integral of 1/(cos(theta)^2) is tan(theta) But there seems to be a problem evaluating the definite integral: var("theta", domain="real") > (1/cos(theta)^2).integral(theta, -pi/4 , pi/4 , algorithm='sympy')# > Works > (1/cos(theta)^2).integral(theta, -pi/4 , pi/4 , al

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-19 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 8:19 AM Emmanuel Charpentier < emanuel.charpent...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Erik > > Le jeudi 19 octobre 2017 09:19:00 UTC+2, Erik Bray a écrit : > >> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Jeroen Demeyer >> wrote: >> > On 2017-10-18 19:02, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: >> >> >> >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-19 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
Le mercredi 18 octobre 2017 20:36:47 UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer a écrit : > > On 2017-10-18 19:02, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > > This option commits us to maintain (unnecessary and dangerous, IMHO) > > Sage-specifc SSL patches at least in R, Python and pip > > Really? Which Sage-specific SSL patc

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-19 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
Dear Erik Le jeudi 19 octobre 2017 09:19:00 UTC+2, Erik Bray a écrit : > > On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Jeroen Demeyer > wrote: > > On 2017-10-18 19:02, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > >> > >> This option commits us to maintain (unnecessary and dangerous, IMHO) > >> Sage-specifc SSL patches

[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-19 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
OK. Unless you correct me, I'll tally your vote as : |X| No, we should wait until OpenSSL finishes fixing their license situation formally. -- Emmanuel Charpentier Le jeudi 19 octobre 2017 09:26:46 UTC+2, Ralf Stephan a écrit : > > After the previous comments I'd like to change my vote from Yes

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-19 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
Dear Jeroen, Unless you correct me, I'll tally your vote as |X| No, we should wait until OpenSSL finishes fixing their license situation formally. -- Emmanuel Charpentier Le mercredi 18 octobre 2017 11:10:38 UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer a écrit : > > First of all, I think that your email is unfair be

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-19 Thread Erik Bray
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 3:49 PM, kcrisman wrote: > >> > For what it is worth, I strongly agree with everything you write above. >> > +1 >> >> Also +1 with some quibbles about section (agree with in >> principle, but in tone or nuance). >> > > perhaps didn't they find the openssl one-click instal

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-19 Thread kcrisman
> > For what it is worth, I strongly agree with everything you write above. > +1 > > Also +1 with some quibbles about section (agree with in > principle, but in tone or nuance). > > perhaps didn't they find the openssl one-click installer right in the middle of the screen yet. That sound

[sage-devel] Re: trac can't be reached

2017-10-19 Thread Ralf Stephan
Thanks. It seems back again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-dev

[sage-devel] trac can't be reached

2017-10-19 Thread Ralf Stephan
Hi, trac.sagemath.org can be pinged but refuses to connect. Any help? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[sage-devel] Fwd: [sagemath-admins] trac down?

2017-10-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
-- Forwarded message -- From: Dima Pasechnik Date: Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:53 PM Subject: [sagemath-admins] trac down? To: sagemath-admins I cannot get to https://trac.sagemath.org - or any tickets I tried. The git server still work, and I can ssh to the host, too. Reboot? Than

[sage-devel] Re: What does MPolynomial_libsingular.reduce() do?

2017-10-19 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
According to Hans Schoenemann: "Usually (i.e. in a ring with a well ordering and no additional flags) reduce/kNF (p,I) computes p' (with p a polynomial and I a list of polynomials) with p-p' is in the ideal generated by I and no monomial of p' is divisible by any L(f) for f in I. If I is a standa

[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-19 Thread Ralf Stephan
After the previous comments I'd like to change my vote from Yes to |X| No Regards, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@google

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-19 Thread Erik Bray
On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2017-10-18 19:02, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: >> >> This option commits us to maintain (unnecessary and dangerous, IMHO) >> Sage-specifc SSL patches at least in R, Python and pip > > > Really? Which Sage-specific SSL patches does this req