[sage-devel] Re: Parent structure class hierarchy

2016-08-04 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
Hey Joseph, It is basically just Parent. I don't know of any other ABC that is a subclass of Parent. Although a common concrete implementation of Parent that is often used as a base class (for algebras) is CombinatorialFreeModule. Best, Travis PS - a more up-to-date version is http://doc.s

[sage-devel] Parent structure class hierarchy

2016-08-04 Thread Joseph Hundley
Is there some analogue of http://combinat.sagemath.org/doc/reference/structure/sage/structure/element.html# for parent structures? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage on Bash on Ubuntu on Windows

2016-08-04 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
Yes, I am pretty sure this is the problem too, now that you've explained it. Here is the output of readelf: wbhart@ASUS:~/SageMath/local/bin$ readelf -d gp | grep RPATH 0x000f (RPATH) Library rpath: [/home/buildbot/slave/binary_pkg/build/source/SageMath/jc4b6yulaujayb9s

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage on Bash on Ubuntu on Windows

2016-08-04 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
wbhart@ASUS:~$ ldd /home/wbhart/SageMath/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/rings/complex_double.so linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x7fffd8abf000) libpari-gmp-2.8.so.0 => /home/wbhart/SageMath/local/lib/libpari-gmp-2.8.so.0 (0x7f000977d000) libgmp.so.16 => /home/wbhart/S

[sage-devel] Re: So...who are the Singular experts?

2016-08-04 Thread leif
Erik Bray wrote: > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:28 PM, leif wrote: >> Erik Bray wrote: >>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:26 AM, leif wrote: We removed any explicit mention of MPIR ('-lmpir', '#include ') a while ago, but a few newer packages may indeed recognize MPIR meanwhile and link to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage on Bash on Ubuntu on Windows

2016-08-04 Thread Nils Bruin
On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 5:46:04 AM UTC-7, Bill Hart wrote: > > In particular, the ticket says the problem was fixed 2 months ago, and I > downloaded the tarball just yesterday. > Yes, but it was resolved as "wontfix", because the patch was added to a repository that Volker keeps outside o

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Bash on Ubuntu on Windows

2016-08-04 Thread leif
Erik Bray wrote: > On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 3:44 PM, 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel > wrote: >> [BIG SNIP] >> Note that one has access to the ordinary Windows file system, which people >> were worried about. And 'top' works. Microsoft are definitely on the right >> track here, but it still needs more wo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: So...who are the Singular experts?

2016-08-04 Thread Erik Bray
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:28 PM, leif wrote: > Erik Bray wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:26 AM, leif wrote: >>> We removed any explicit mention of MPIR ('-lmpir', '#include ') >>> a while ago, but a few newer packages may indeed recognize MPIR >>> meanwhile and link to that instead. But I'm n

[sage-devel] Re: So...who are the Singular experts?

2016-08-04 Thread leif
Erik Bray wrote: > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:26 AM, leif wrote: >> We removed any explicit mention of MPIR ('-lmpir', '#include ') >> a while ago, but a few newer packages may indeed recognize MPIR >> meanwhile and link to that instead. But I'm not aware of a single one. > > Well, what happens w

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage on Bash on Ubuntu on Windows

2016-08-04 Thread Dima Pasechnik
what is the output of ldd on /home/wbhart/SageMath/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/rings/complex_double.so (I guess it's linked to a system library, and on your system it's a different one...) On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 1:46:04 PM UTC+1, Bill Hart wrote: > > In particular, the ticke

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage on Bash on Ubuntu on Windows

2016-08-04 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
In particular, the ticket says the problem was fixed 2 months ago, and I downloaded the tarball just yesterday. Bill. On Thursday, 4 August 2016 14:44:40 UTC+2, Bill Hart wrote: > > Thanks for the hint. Yes, I used a binary. However, I downloaded it > freshly from the Sage website, so I would g

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage on Bash on Ubuntu on Windows

2016-08-04 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
Thanks for the hint. Yes, I used a binary. However, I downloaded it freshly from the Sage website, so I would guess it is not hit by any old issues? Bill. On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:27:39 UTC+2, Nils Bruin wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 11:16:16 AM UTC-7, Bill Hart wrote: >> >> w

Re: [sage-devel] Re: So...who are the Singular experts?

2016-08-04 Thread Erik Bray
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:26 AM, leif wrote: > Erik Bray wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 8:25 PM, leif wrote: >>> leif wrote: Erik Bray wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Erik Bray wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Erik Bray wrote: >>> ...and in particular, ar

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Issues when building Sage with --with-mp=gmp

2016-08-04 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 11:37:57 AM UTC+2, Erik Bray wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Erik Bray > wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:17 AM, leif > > wrote: > >> Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > >>> On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 11:07:38 AM UTC+2, Erik Bray wrote: > >>> > >>>

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage on Bash on Ubuntu on Windows

2016-08-04 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
I don't know. I've spoken to one expert and he thinks almost all the issues are due to interfaces that aren't implemented by Microsoft yet. They have an online poll where you can vote for the features you'd most like to see them implement. Many of the items have thousands of votes, and they are

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage on Bash on Ubuntu on Windows

2016-08-04 Thread Erik Bray
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 3:44 PM, 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel wrote: > There are some awful issues with WSL for now. It has a stack limit of 8MB > which means certain programs that expect a >= 16MB stack won't work. ulimit > refuses to increase the stack size. Thanks for this detailed status report

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Issues when building Sage with --with-mp=gmp

2016-08-04 Thread Erik Bray
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Erik Bray wrote: > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:17 AM, leif wrote: >> Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >>> On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 11:07:38 AM UTC+2, Erik Bray wrote: >>> >>> Tangentially related, but it might be nice if GMP/MPIR got the same >>> treatment tha

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Issues when building Sage with --with-mp=gmp

2016-08-04 Thread Erik Bray
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:17 AM, leif wrote: > Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >> On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 11:07:38 AM UTC+2, Erik Bray wrote: >> >> Tangentially related, but it might be nice if GMP/MPIR got the same >> treatment that some other packages have been getting, a few at a time,

[sage-devel] Re: So...who are the Singular experts?

2016-08-04 Thread leif
Erik Bray wrote: > On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 8:25 PM, leif wrote: >> leif wrote: >>> Erik Bray wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Erik Bray wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Erik Bray wrote: >> ...and in particular, are any omalloc experts watching this list? >> >

[sage-devel] Re: Issues when building Sage with --with-mp=gmp

2016-08-04 Thread leif
Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 11:07:38 AM UTC+2, Erik Bray wrote: > > Tangentially related, but it might be nice if GMP/MPIR got the same > treatment that some other packages have been getting, a few at a time, > of using the system version if it's available

Re: [sage-devel] Re: So...who are the Singular experts?

2016-08-04 Thread John Cremona
On 4 August 2016 at 10:01, Erik Bray wrote: > On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 8:25 PM, leif wrote: >> leif wrote: >>> Erik Bray wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Erik Bray wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Erik Bray wrote: >> ...and in particular, are any omalloc experts watc

Re: [sage-devel] Issues when building Sage with --with-mp=gmp

2016-08-04 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 11:07:38 AM UTC+2, Erik Bray wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 12:14 AM, leif > > wrote: > > To not hijack Erik's original thread on GMP/MPIR-related issues with > > /Singular on Cygwin/, this is a follow-up concerning just building Sage > > with its GMP packag

Re: [sage-devel] Issues when building Sage with --with-mp=gmp

2016-08-04 Thread Erik Bray
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 12:14 AM, leif wrote: > To not hijack Erik's original thread on GMP/MPIR-related issues with > /Singular on Cygwin/, this is a follow-up concerning just building Sage > with its GMP package (instead of MPIR, which is the default). > > Sage's optional gmp package is currentl

Re: [sage-devel] Re: So...who are the Singular experts?

2016-08-04 Thread Erik Bray
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 8:25 PM, leif wrote: > leif wrote: >> Erik Bray wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Erik Bray wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Erik Bray wrote: > ...and in particular, are any omalloc experts watching this list? > > I ask because my current