Re: [sage-devel] Re: Unify keywords certificate and certify

2016-07-29 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Dima Pasechnik wrote: IIRC, there is at least one place where such a parameter is named "cert" :-)  Didn't found any. And one can have names like "proof", "validate", etc :-) True, but "proof" is used for another meaning. -- Jori Mäntysalo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Unify keywords certificate and certify

2016-07-29 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Volker Braun wrote: Usually its better to have separate methods, e.g. n.factor() instead of n.is_prime(certificate=True) Techically 100=25*4 is one possible certificate to show that 100 is not a prime, whereas 100=2*2*5*5 is the factorization. As a better example think o

[sage-devel] Re: [sagemath-admins] Re: (CRITICAL) sage-trac google group concern

2016-07-29 Thread William Stein
On Friday, July 29, 2016, Karl-Dieter Crisman wrote: > > > > This is indeed very bad (the relevant message is [1]). And not the only >> one [2]. Please do not change any password on trac since this is fixed!! >> >> > Yikes! > On the plus side, it's not universal since > "You must be a member of

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-trac-account] Re: (CRITICAL) sage-trac google group concern

2016-07-29 Thread Karl-Dieter Crisman
This is indeed very bad (the relevant message is [1]). And not the only one > [2]. Please do not change any password on trac since this is fixed!! > > Yikes! On the plus side, it's not universal since "You must be a member of this group to view and participate in it." though this is a trivial thi

[sage-devel] Re: Unhandled case in EllipticCurve_from_cubic

2016-07-29 Thread Robin Houston
I think there’s another case that isn’t handled correctly, exemplified by: R. = QQ[] T = EllipticCurve_from_cubic(y^2*z - x^3 - z^3, (0,1,0)) A simple change that fixes this problem is to make the projective_point() method not blow up when given (0,0,0), e.g.: *--- a/src/sage/schemes/elliptic

[sage-devel] Re: Unify keywords certificate and certify

2016-07-29 Thread Volker Braun
On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 8:25:53 PM UTC+2, leif wrote: > > Even worse then, since it is meant to be the (imperative form of the) > /verb/. (Out of context, I'd assume the function takes an object of > some Certificate class, not a Boolean.) > Really its a variable (keyword argument), so ver

[sage-devel] Re: Unify keywords certificate and certify

2016-07-29 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 7:25:53 PM UTC+1, leif wrote: > > Volker Braun wrote: > > On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 6:58:20 PM UTC+2, leif wrote: > > > > Well, while "certificate" is ambiguous (as it can be a verb as well > > as a > > noun), > > > > > > While technically true, "

[sage-devel] Re: Unify keywords certificate and certify

2016-07-29 Thread leif
Volker Braun wrote: > On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 6:58:20 PM UTC+2, leif wrote: > > Well, while "certificate" is ambiguous (as it can be a verb as well > as a > noun), > > > While technically true, "certificate" is not commonly used as a verb. I > don't think anybody would misguess n

[sage-devel] Re: (CRITICAL) sage-trac google group concern

2016-07-29 Thread Vincent Delecroix
This is indeed very bad (the relevant message is [1]). And not the only one [2]. Please do not change any password on trac since this is fixed!! [1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-trac/xT0JWnw0LkU [2] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/sage-trac/password|sort:date Vinc

[sage-devel] sage-trac google group concern

2016-07-29 Thread John H Palmieri
I just saw a password-reset message posted to sage-trac, and the message included the new password. This can't be a good idea, can it? -- John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving ema

[sage-devel] Re: Unify keywords certificate and certify

2016-07-29 Thread Volker Braun
On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 6:58:20 PM UTC+2, leif wrote: > > Well, while "certificate" is ambiguous (as it can be a verb as well as a > noun), While technically true, "certificate" is not commonly used as a verb. I don't think anybody would misguess noun vs verb here. Also I think it is the

[sage-devel] Re: Unify keywords certificate and certify

2016-07-29 Thread leif
Jori Mäntysalo wrote: > There are currently 6 functions that have Boolean argument "certify", > and 38 that have "certificate". I suggest that we unify them all to > "certificate". Well, while "certificate" is ambiguous (as it can be a verb as well as a noun), "certify" is not, and for boolean par

Re: [sage-devel] Re: symbolic computation with Chevalley generators for algebraic groups

2016-07-29 Thread Joseph Hundley
Sorry. Bad question. I meant something more like "I always normalize the symmetric inner product so that the short roots have norm one. From what point of view is this different normalization natural?" I guess I can find the answer in Kac's book. Thanks for your answer. On Thursday, July 28, 2

Re: [sage-devel] Unify keywords certificate and certify

2016-07-29 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: There are currently 6 functions that have Boolean argument "certify", and 38 that have "certificate". I suggest that we unify them all to "certificate". Just remember to properly deprecate Done that. and add doctests for the deprecated arguments.

Re: [sage-devel] Unify keywords certificate and certify

2016-07-29 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-07-29 07:32, Jori Mäntysalo wrote: There are currently 6 functions that have Boolean argument "certify", and 38 that have "certificate". I suggest that we unify them all to "certificate". Just remember to properly deprecate and add doctests for the deprecated arguments. -- You receiv