Re: [sage-devel] zero division

2016-03-09 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-03-09 23:56, Thierry wrote: Willing to change the behaviour will be similar to requesting that 'NaN in RR' should return False. Not the topic of this thread, but I really think that "NaN in RR" should return False. RR represents the real numbers and NaN is *not a number*. Note that Sage

[sage-devel] Re: log(8) == 3*log(2)

2016-03-09 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Funnier than what I thought initially sage: for i in range(20): :print i, bool(log(2**i) / log(2) == ZZ(i)) 0 True 1 True 2 True 3 False 4 True 5 True 6 False 7 False 8 True 9 True 10 True 11 False 12 False 13 True 14 False 15 True 16 True 17 False 18 True 19 False On 09/03/16 23:41, Vin

[sage-devel] log(8) == 3*log(2)

2016-03-09 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Hello, In the current beta I have sage: bool(log(8) == 3*log(2)) False Why Sage is not able to check this simple relation directly? Hopefully, sage: bool((log(8) == 3*log(2)).simplify_log()) True But not very convenient. Best, Vincent -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [sage-devel] zero division

2016-03-09 Thread Thierry
Hi Vincent, On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 10:44:10AM -0500, David Roe wrote: > The behavior for floating point is governed by IEEE standards, which > dictate +infinity in this case. So I think this is not a bug. I strongly agree with this point of view! Elements belong to some parent, which has some ru

Re: [sage-devel] make ptestlong and binary-pkg

2016-03-09 Thread Daniel Krenn
On 2016-03-07 09:36, Daniel Krenn wrote: > 2) Some of the doctests fail, for example: > > File "src/sage/lfunctions/lcalc.py", line 376, in > sage.lfunctions.lcalc.LCalc.analytic_rank > Failed example: > lcalc.analytic_rank(E) > Expected: > 1 > Got: > *** Warning: can't expand ~. >

Re: [sage-devel] make ptestlong and binary-pkg

2016-03-09 Thread Daniel Krenn
On 2016-03-07 09:36, Daniel Krenn wrote: > I've used https://github.com/sagemath/binary-pkg to create a package > sage-7.1.beta6-Ubuntu_14.04-x86_64.tar.bz2 > Then I've extracted it to some location; relocating (once) seem to have > worked, but with the following issues (with make ptestlong): >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bye

2016-03-09 Thread Viviane Pons
Note that I wasn't saying anything about Nathann's opinions, and I even said that some of them were valuable. We could / should debate many things, and I think these debates happen (as William pointed out about the name). I was mostly defending myself against a false accusation as I am part, I gues

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bye

2016-03-09 Thread Vincent Delecroix
On 09/03/16 13:08, William Stein wrote: On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 7:05 AM, Vincent Delecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: One point I think Nathann has right and was not discussed further is the fact that Sage the distribution is tightly linked to Sage the company. Some examples: - the "for

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bye

2016-03-09 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 7:05 AM, Vincent Delecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > One point I think Nathann has right and was not discussed further is the > fact that Sage the distribution is tightly linked to Sage the company. Some > examples: > - the "forced" change of names by William from

Re: [sage-devel] zero division

2016-03-09 Thread David Roe
The behavior for floating point is governed by IEEE standards, which dictate +infinity in this case. So I think this is not a bug. On Mar 9, 2016 10:13, "Vincent Delecroix" <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Compare > > > sage: 1 / 0 > Traceback (most recent call last): > ... >

[sage-devel] zero division

2016-03-09 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Hello, Compare sage: 1 / 0 Traceback (most recent call last): ... ZeroDivisionError: rational division by zero sage: 1. / 0. +infinity sage: SR(1.) / SR(0.) Traceback (most recent call last): ... ZeroDivisionError: Symbolic division by zero Since in Python (2 and 3) we

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bye

2016-03-09 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Hello, One point I think Nathann has right and was not discussed further is the fact that Sage the distribution is tightly linked to Sage the company. Some examples: - the "forced" change of names by William from Sage to SageMath when the company is SageMath Inc. - websites: sagemath.org for

Re: [sage-devel] Re: I think my students hate me

2016-03-09 Thread kcrisman
> > > > I do have a basement but it's definitely not a place to do Sage, and in > any > > case have found trains to be an effective place to work on Sage, if the > > wireless is working... > > Who needs wireless? I thought that was what git was good for ;) > Haha! But eventually one

[sage-devel] Re: Bye

2016-03-09 Thread aishen
I don't know you... But I have come to need SMC : I don't use windows ! I was very reluctant to use it because I don't like to work on internet. But it's such a great application and specially nowadays I can work with vpython and ivisual ! My wish for so many years and no more windaube ! (lol) So

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bye

2016-03-09 Thread Viviane Pons
Dear all, I answer this thread only now as I haven't had much time to read sage-devel these past days. First, I must say that I feel very offended my Nathann public implication that by being part of ODK I "build my career on other people's work". Nathann, I think you have absolutely no idea what

[sage-devel] Re: RedHat/opensource.com -- article about Sage

2016-03-09 Thread Samuel Lelievre
Le mardi 8 mars 2016 18:46:29 UTC+1, William a écrit : > > Hi Sage Devs, > > See > > https://opensource.com/education/16/3/sagemath > > and > > http://lwn.net/ > > Don't expect anything interesting to *you* -- it's just basically the > transcript of that video my brother made, which has no

[sage-devel] Re: Query about SageMath for GSOC

2016-03-09 Thread Ralf Stephan
Actually the idea per se is not so bad but you would use a separate system like PRESS: http://dream.inf.ed.ac.uk/software/press/ This would need to be made a Sage package and be interfaced as usual. Regards,. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-

Re: [sage-devel] Query about SageMath for GSOC

2016-03-09 Thread Johan S . R . Nielsen
> For example: We have an equation (2+3*(8/2)) and when I solve this > equation in SageMath it gives the exact answer i.e 14. However, it's > really interesting to imagine if Sage prints all the steps that how > they solve the above equation to find its answer like first it print > this (2+3*4) by

Re: [sage-devel] Re: I think my students hate me

2016-03-09 Thread Erik Bray
On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:55 PM, kcrisman wrote: > I do have a basement but it's definitely not a place to do Sage, and in any > case have found trains to be an effective place to work on Sage, if the > wireless is working... Who needs wireless? I thought that was what git was good for ;) -

[sage-devel] Re: Query about SageMath for GSOC

2016-03-09 Thread Ralf Stephan
On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 4:02:48 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: > > sage: a,b = 2, 12 > sage: a,b = SR(a), SR(b) > sage: a.add(b,hold=True) > 14 > > so I think this might be pretty hard unless one messed a lot with the > internals (e.g. Pynac/Ginac). > Why not sage: print '{0} + {1}'.format(a, b