Well, I am not sure how to reset password on the wiki. I thought the two
were linked. But may be you can change the passwords separately.
François
> On 27/02/2016, at 17:20, Ralf Stephan wrote:
>
> If we're at it let me add that while my browser remembered the password this
> doesn't help me w
If we're at it let me add that while my browser remembered the password
this doesn't help me with my incorrectly remembered password of the wiki.
On Sat, Feb 27, 2016, 05:01 kcrisman wrote:
> For future reference for others who may find this thread, there is a
> dedicated place for people to ask
For future reference for others who may find this thread, there is a
dedicated place for people to ask for new Trac accounts, and that can work
for resetting passwords - though François is right to point out that using
the email address on file with Trac is best.
http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en
> > WHY THE HELL IS SO MUCH MONEY AND TIME SPENT ON DOING IT IN STEAD OF
> > AUTOMATING IT AWAY!
>
> I think you are misunderstanding what kind of boring work we are talking
> about. For example, porting Sage to Python 3 is certainly boring but
> cannot be fully automated. There are too
Lest this thread goes any further, Nathann wrote to me offlist: "There
is no way on earth that I will accept this."
So no point in continuing this discussion. It would be like trying to
give a Fields medal to Perelman.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:34 PM, William Stein wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Sébastien Labbé wrote:
> Deaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaear sage-devel,
>
> I would like to give the 2015 Spies Prize to Nathann Cohen as he is one of
> the main contributor of Sage in the last ~7 years that has still not
> received the Spies Prize. Nathann has been involved i
>
> I have high hopes of winning this prize, however:
>
>
> https://www.flinders.edu.au/science_engineering/csem/research/programs/flinders-hamiltonian-cycle-project/fhcpcs.cfm
>
(In my enthusiasm, I failed to mention that this HCP guerilla is a team
work with David Coudert. Who still hasn'
Hello Sebastien,
It's awfully kind of you but I accept a very very limited range of
currencies, and it seems that Sage has gone bankrupt recently: I like to be
paid with honest answers, and there's no market on which I can buy some
with USD.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/D8tF8
Deaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaear sage-devel,
I would like to give the 2015 Spies Prize to Nathann Cohen as he is one of
the main contributor of Sage in the last ~7 years that has still not
received the Spies Prize. Nathann has been involved in many aspects of
Sage, contributed a lot of code including doc
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:24 AM, parisse
wrote:
>
>> > But as I understand your messages about SMC, SMC is much more agnostic
>> > than
>> > sage, it's more about providing users easy access to opensource math
>> > software/languages, and also a hosting service and collaboration
>> > platform. I
> > But as I understand your messages about SMC, SMC is much more agnostic
> than
> > sage, it's more about providing users easy access to opensource math
> > software/languages, and also a hosting service and collaboration
> platform. I
> > think there is/will be a lot of competition in thi
On 2016-02-26 18:39, Martin Vahi wrote:
WHY THE HELL IS SO MUCH MONEY AND TIME SPENT ON DOING IT IN STEAD OF
AUTOMATING IT AWAY!
I think you are misunderstanding what kind of boring work we are talking
about. For example, porting Sage to Python 3 is certainly boring but
cannot be fully au
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Nathann Cohen wrote:
> Note that so far, I'm trying to figure this all out by talking with
> almost everybody and I am quite eager to read his answer to [4].
I've said everything I have to say for now.
-- William
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I read the whole conversation to get an idea
It is about server side(we can call it developers side).
1) check the accuracy of each function/method
2) check the time for each function/method
Is there other opinions about client side testing?
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 12:49:32 PM UTC+5:30
> sagemath.com absorbing sagemath.org, confusions between Sage and SMC,
I meant "absorbing sagemath.org's traffic". Sorry for that.
Nathann
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> With the full understanding that I'm pouring some gasoline into the flames
> right now, I still say that everybody, including me and Nathann, have the
> "right" to be mistaken.
It seems that I was mistaken indeed. As Miguel Marco noticed [1], my
opinion on many things changed since an email conv
reede, 26. veebruar 2016 15:54.54 UTC kirjutas William:
>
> ...
> ODK impact
> will be very positive for open source math software, but won't solve
> the hugely important "boring work" problem you mention above.
> ...
>
I see a general pattern here and the pattern is the one that I have se
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:11 AM, parisse
wrote:
>
>
> Le vendredi 26 février 2016 16:54:54 UTC+1, William a écrit :
>>
>>
>> Just to clarify (and make things easier), the mission statement, and
>> indeed Sage itself, is about the *entire ecosystem* of open source
>> math software, including your s
Le vendredi 26 février 2016 16:54:54 UTC+1, William a écrit :
>
>
> Just to clarify (and make things easier), the mission statement, and
> indeed Sage itself, is about the *entire ecosystem* of open source
> math software, including your software (Giac, which is of course
> installed on SageMa
reede, 26. veebruar 2016 7:51.20 UTC kirjutas Nathann Cohen:
>
> Hello William,
> ...
>
With the full understanding that I'm pouring some gasoline into the flames
right now, I still say that everybody, including me and Nathann, have the
"right" to be mistaken. The way I try to approach my stupi
To get an idea i read the whole conversation
What i gained is
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 12:49:32 PM UTC+5:30, Clemens Heuberger
wrote:
>
>
> On 2016-02-26 04:50, Jayamine A. wrote:
> > But when we are dealing with clients(users) we need both.(My opinion)
>
> That was basically my opi
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:28 AM, Francesco Biscani wrote:
> I think your points are very important. Competing with a commercial CAS (or
> with any commercial software really) is much more about boring aspects of
> software development rather than exciting ones. In my experience the FLOSS
> communi
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 4:44 AM, parisse
wrote:
> Regarding the mission statement, I'm a little bit skeptic one can build a
> viable alternative to Magma on one side and Maple, Mathematica, Matlab on
> the other side. Magma is a very specialized software that is probably
> unknown to most mathemat
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 4:17 AM, Andrew wrote:
> [...] Moreover, William has added that any income generated by the
> company will be used to fund further development. I'm happy with that.
Technically, I cannot guarantee that all income generated by the
company will be used to fund further develo
I think your points are very important. Competing with a commercial CAS (or
with any commercial software really) is much more about boring aspects of
software development rather than exciting ones. In my experience the FLOSS
community can excel at solving technically challenging problem, but it
oft
Wow, this whole discussion, and the subsequent thread opened by William
have really blown my mind a little bit.
I disagree with most of the objections raised by Nathann. I have to say
that the impression I got from them at the beginning have changed as the
discussion has evolved and his points
Regarding the mission statement, I'm a little bit skeptic one can build a
viable alternative to Magma on one side and Maple, Mathematica, Matlab on
the other side. Magma is a very specialized software that is probably
unknown to most mathematicians, and almost certainly unknown in other
scienti
neljapäev, 25. veebruar 2016 23:16.50 UTC kirjutas William:
>
>
> It is very true that -- for whatever reason -- certain companies are
> at least somewhat systematically supporting open source. Recently
> Google and Microsoft (!) are two such companies..
> ...
>
I do not want to spam this th
I sat by and watched the previous thread develop with disbelief but without
saying anything, so let me say it now. In the last thread there were a lot
of negative comments from Nathan and many others trying to reason with him:
Nathan against the world. I hope that this is not going to be repeate
And sorry for being picky but being a gate keeper is part of my paid job duties.
I have to take these things very seriously for professional reasons.
François
> On 26/02/2016, at 21:35, Ralf Stephan wrote:
>
> Ah ok, I still can. Sorry for the noise.
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:22 AM Francoi
Hi Martin,
On 2016-02-25, Martin Vahi wrote:
> I'm no genius, I can not measure up to the Albert Einstein, but it is a
> fact that the Albert Einstein got its Nobel Prize for studying the light
> bulb, not for his theory of relativity.
Not for relativity, but also certainly not for the light b
Ah ok, I still can. Sorry for the noise.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:22 AM Francois Bissey <
francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:
> OK so this is the address Ralf post on sage’s mailing list even if it
> isn’t the one
> on trac.
> What happened to you that you suddenly can’t login on trac?
>
>
OK so this is the address Ralf post on sage’s mailing list even if it isn’t the
one
on trac.
What happened to you that you suddenly can’t login on trac?
François
> On 26/02/2016, at 21:07, Ralf Stephan wrote:
>
> Please send me a new trac password.
>
> --
> You received this message because
This message has not been sent with the address we have on record for
Ralf Stephan. Furthermore Ralf logged in 42 hours ago.
I need to be convinced of the identity of the poster before sending a
new password anywhere.
François
> On 26/02/2016, at 21:07, Ralf Stephan wrote:
>
> Please send me a
Please send me a new trac password.
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