Re: [sage-devel] Re: UniqueRepresentation: class vs. class_with_category

2015-08-28 Thread Daniel Krenn
On 2015-08-29 07:58, Simon King wrote: On 2015-08-28, Daniel Krenn wrote: More details: I need c.__class__ when I want to create a parent with different parameter set and I don't know the exact class before. I'd say that approach is broken, since c.__class__ will generally depend on the given

[sage-devel] Re: How to access the data in my sage.math.washington account

2015-08-28 Thread Simon King
On 2015-08-29, Simon King wrote: > Could an administrator for sage.math.washington.edu please contact me > off-line, Off-list, I mean. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[sage-devel] How to access the data in my sage.math.washington account

2015-08-28 Thread Simon King
Hi! As discussed in another thread: It seems that Sage packages can not be hosted at Sage servers any longer. I don't know if I will be able to convince the institutation at which I created that package to host the database that is used by the package (~30GB or so). But even in that case: I'd nee

[sage-devel] Re: UniqueRepresentation: class vs. class_with_category

2015-08-28 Thread Simon King
Hi Daniel, On 2015-08-28, Daniel Krenn wrote: > More details: I need c.__class__ when I want to create a parent with > different parameter set and I don't know the exact class before. I'd say that approach is broken, since c.__class__ will generally depend on the given parameters (that's becaus

[sage-devel] Re: Access to my cohomology spkg&documentation is blocked

2015-08-28 Thread Simon King
Hi Volker, On 2015-08-28, Volker Braun wrote: > The p_group_cohomology-2.1.4.p1.spkg hosted at > http://files.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/ is about 36mb, > ... >> In addition, I forgot to mention that a data base of cohomology rings is >> hosted there. That would be over 30gb, if I recall corre

Re: [sage-devel] Re: is_Parent(NN) gives False

2015-08-28 Thread Nils Bruin
On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 2:34:06 PM UTC-7, vdelecroix wrote: > > Hello, > > Is there a reason why NN is lazily imported? > Hm, good point. See http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/10906 . One should really only lazily import modules; even the designer of the feature thinks the situation for a

[sage-devel] Re: Various packages no longer exist

2015-08-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Friday, 28 August 2015 15:01:09 UTC-7, Jakob Kroeker wrote: > > kash and macaulay2 are hugely obsolete >> > > which is the last commit with the interface to macaulay2? > it's done in mercurial, more than 5 years ago :-) http://files.sagemath.org/spkg/experimental/macaulay2-1.1-r7221.p0.txt t

[sage-devel] Re: Various packages no longer exist

2015-08-28 Thread Jakob Kroeker
> > kash and macaulay2 are hugely obsolete > which is the last commit with the interface to macaulay2? Am Donnerstag, 27. August 2015 22:21:42 UTC+2 schrieb Dima Pasechnik: > > > > On Thursday, 27 August 2015 12:48:03 UTC-7, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: >> >> Some more packages are documented in Sage b

Re: [sage-devel] Re: is_Parent(NN) gives False

2015-08-28 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Hello, Is there a reason why NN is lazily imported? Vincent On 27/08/15 02:18, Nils Bruin wrote: On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 9:34:07 PM UTC-7, Nils Bruin wrote: def cleanup_lazyimports(D): for name,value in D.iteritems(): if type(value) is LazyImport: D[name]

Re: [sage-devel] Access to my cohomology spkg&documentation is blocked

2015-08-28 Thread R. Andrew Ohana
Everybody was warned that things would go down back in April, so you should have dealt with it awhile ago (but apparently didn't). We can easily setup a redirect on the VM that hosts wstein.org (which is where sage.math.washington.edu redirects to) if you find a place to host your site. If your si

[sage-devel] UniqueRepresentation: class vs. class_with_category

2015-08-28 Thread Daniel Krenn
I have a parent-class C derived from UniqueRepresentation. Now it generates distinct instances when called by C(...) and by c.__class__(...) where c is an instance of C. This is because c.__class__ is C_with_category. I have a workaround, namely stripping of the _with_category by

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Various packages no longer exist

2015-08-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Friday, 28 August 2015 09:52:10 UTC-7, William wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Dima Pasechnik > wrote: > > > > > > On Thursday, 27 August 2015 12:48:03 UTC-7, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > >> > >> Some more packages are documented in Sage but no longer actually exist. > >> I found

Re: [sage-devel] cunningham_tables package does not exist

2015-08-28 Thread William Stein
For what it is worth, it is available as an attachment on this ticket: http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/15813#no1 It's a table of factorizations of special numbers. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > Various Sage library files mention a package 'cunningham_tables' but i

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Various packages no longer exist

2015-08-28 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > On Thursday, 27 August 2015 12:48:03 UTC-7, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: >> >> Some more packages are documented in Sage but no longer actually exist. >> I found these when grepping for "sage -i": >> >> chomp >> kash (also kash3-linux-2005.11.2

[sage-devel] Re: Some documentation tickets

2015-08-28 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
Tab completion and the ? (and ??) are your best friends and will do well to guide you. As for 3, what if you have class A with a subclass B in separate files (let's say, Parent and Partitions). Should you include all methods from class A in the doc of class B? If the answer is yes, then you

[sage-devel] Re: Access to my cohomology spkg&documentation is blocked

2015-08-28 Thread Volker Braun
The p_group_cohomology-2.1.4.p1.spkg hosted at http://files.sagemath.org/spkg/optional/ is about 36mb, thats easily doable with bitbucket/github. You can also host files with google drive/dropbox/... I'm sure all have the best intentions but academic institutions are not in the business of file

[sage-devel] Re: Access to my cohomology spkg&documentation is blocked

2015-08-28 Thread Simon King
Hi Volker, On 2015-08-28, Volker Braun wrote: > I'd recommend bitbucket/github/... Presumably you are using some kind of > version control for your files already. Github pages is an easy way to host > your documentation, too. That may be a long term solution (first I have to learn how to use g

[sage-devel] Re: Access to my cohomology spkg&documentation is blocked

2015-08-28 Thread Volker Braun
I'd recommend bitbucket/github/... Presumably you are using some kind of version control for your files already. Github pages is an easy way to host your documentation, too. On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 5:15:11 AM UTC-4, Simon King wrote: > > Hi! > > It was pointed out on sage-support that

Re: [sage-devel] Re: "Creating a Tutorial from a Worksheet" mentions beautifulsoup package

2015-08-28 Thread kcrisman
> > On 2015-08-28 03:37, John H Palmieri wrote: > > See http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/19004. > Yes, I saw that ticket but I never realized that the "solution" was so > drastic, especially given that there is no deprecation at all. > +1 -- You received this message because you are subscri

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Short fr, de, pt, ru translation

2015-08-28 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Thanks, this is the final version on #19106: Pour utiliser certaines fonctionnalités de GAP, vous devez installer deux paquets Sage optionnels. Cela peut être fait avec la commande:: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe

[sage-devel] Access to my cohomology spkg&documentation is blocked

2015-08-28 Thread Simon King
Hi! It was pointed out on sage-support that http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/SimonKing/Cohomology/ is not available. That's bad, because the documentation of my optional group cohomology spkg is hosted there, the new to-be-reviewed version of the spkg is hosted there (I am afraid that the old

[sage-devel] Re: strange patchbots' plugins.startup_modules failures

2015-08-28 Thread Frédéric Chapoton
ok, indeed there is a problem. could you open an issue on github ? https://github.com/robertwb/sage-patchbot Frédéric Le mercredi 26 août 2015 21:00:48 UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik a écrit : > > On #18997 (http://patchbot.sagemath.org/ticket/18997/) I get PluginFailed > - on startup_modules, which app