Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSoC 2015: 5 projects funded

2015-04-27 Thread Vincent Knight
Thanks for the hard work Harald and welcome to all the students! Vince On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 04:58 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > Thanks, Harald, > for the work making this possible. > > > On Monday, 27 April 2015 21:07:46 UTC+1, Harald Schilly wrote: >> >> Hello students and welcome to SageMath! This y

[sage-devel] Re: GSoC 2015: 5 projects funded

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Thanks, Harald, for the work making this possible. On Monday, 27 April 2015 21:07:46 UTC+1, Harald Schilly wrote: > > Hello students and welcome to SageMath! This years GSoC funds five > projects: > > (Multivariate) Asymptotic Expressions > Benjamin Hackl and Daniel Krenn > > http://www.googl

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Tuesday, 28 April 2015 02:27:21 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: > > On 27 April 2015 at 12:31, Dima Pasechnik > > wrote: > > ... > > On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:23:50 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: > >> > >> On the original point of this thread: Is there anything wrong with > >> just grabbing the 'fri

[sage-devel] Re: Change of semantics for 'show'

2015-04-27 Thread Volker Braun
On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:13:31 PM UTC-4, Martin R wrote: > > * __repr__ (or SageObject._repr_): return a string >> * print: Immediately sends the output of __repr__ to stdout >> > I think it sends __str__ to stdout. > If you define __str__ in addition to __repr__ (allowable but probably som

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Page
On 27 April 2015 at 12:31, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > ... > On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:23:50 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: >> >> On the original point of this thread: Is there anything wrong with >> just grabbing the 'fricas.py' source from somewhere, changing it, >> and then importing it into an SMC/Sag

[sage-devel] Re: GSoC 2015: 5 projects funded

2015-04-27 Thread Benjamin Hackl
Thank you very much for the opportunity! I'm looking forward to working on my project! :-) Best wishes, Benjamin Am Montag, 27. April 2015 22:07:46 UTC+2 schrieb Harald Schilly: > > Hello students and welcome to SageMath! This years GSoC funds five > projects: > > (Multivariate) Asymptotic Ex

[sage-devel] GSoC 2015: 5 projects funded

2015-04-27 Thread Harald Schilly
Hello students and welcome to SageMath! This years GSoC funds five projects: (Multivariate) Asymptotic Expressions Benjamin Hackl and Daniel Krenn http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2015/behackl/5649050225344512 Performance Improvements for the Graph Module of Sagemath

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Error typesetting mathematics

2015-04-27 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi It could be that from sage 6.6 sagenotebook stopped including the empty data/mathjax folder and that changed to a symlink. (I just spotted that empty folder in a 6.4.1 install). Dpkg won't mess with that during an upgrade: https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dpkg/FAQ#Q:_Will_dpkg_replace_a_symlink

[sage-devel] Re: Change of semantics for 'show'

2015-04-27 Thread 'Martin R' via sage-devel
Am Montag, 27. April 2015 19:18:35 UTC+2 schrieb Volker Braun: > > __repr__ >> print >> > > We should be able to agree on these as they are part of the plain Python > language. > > * __repr__ (or SageObject._repr_): return a string > > * print: Immediately sends the output of __repr__ to stdout

[sage-devel] Re: Issues with GCC 5.x

2015-04-27 Thread leif
leif wrote: > * Lcalc fails to build -- usual C++ issues, subset of those >with clang, easy to fix, cf. #12437 >('-fpermissive' also suffices) > > * Sage library -- modules using Lcalc headers won't build for the >same r

[sage-devel] Re: Change of semantics for 'show'

2015-04-27 Thread Volker Braun
On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 4:45:42 AM UTC-4, Martin R wrote: > > Is there any concise description (possibly proposed) of what the different > output functions should do? I know of the following functions, and have my > personal expectations, but I'd be interested in others: > __repr__ > print

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:39:56 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:18:09 UTC+1, help wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Dima Pasechnik >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:00:26 UTC+1, help wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 a

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:18:09 UTC+1, help wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Dima Pasechnik > wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:00:26 UTC+1, help wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Dima Pasechnik > wrote: > >> >> That won't be available for long.

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:23:50 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: > > On 27 April 2015 at 12:00, William Stein > wrote: > > ... > > SMC won't be able to provide that sort of hosting for free, that's for > sure. > > > >> I think new projects will have enough room. > > > > As of right now they do.

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Page
On 27 April 2015 at 12:00, William Stein wrote: > ... > SMC won't be able to provide that sort of hosting for free, that's for sure. > >> I think new projects will have enough room. > > As of right now they do. However, I have to move everything out of > UW asap, so I can't promise anything at al

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:00:26 UTC+1, help wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> That won't be available for long. >> > >> > >> > how about having an SMC-only filestore or an http server for this k

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 17:00:26 UTC+1, help wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Dima Pasechnik > wrote: > >> That won't be available for long. > > > > > > how about having an SMC-only filestore or an http server for this kind > of > > things? > > (just to save bandwidth...) > >

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> That won't be available for long. > > > how about having an SMC-only filestore or an http server for this kind of > things? > (just to save bandwidth...) Maybe later -- I don't know. Harald tried posting binaries and paying for the bandwi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Error typesetting mathematics

2015-04-27 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi I have a new 6.6ppa1 version uploaded which fixes this. It is an ugly hack to replace the mathjax folder with a symlink the way it should be, in the debian/rules file; symlink it before installing all the files. Unfortunately it also contains a sagenb version number in the path, and I'm not sur

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
it seems that the current SMC quota settings do not allow this on an ordinary project. At least I was unable to untar the sage binary into a relatively empty project (project id: 42c646bc-c7fc-41d8-b50d-efc995e3cd08) On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:36:18 UTC+1, William wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 27, 20

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 16:00:15 UTC+1, help wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Dima Pasechnik > wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:46:27 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:36:17 UTC+1, William Stein wrote: > >>> > >>> On M

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:53:59 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:46:27 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:36:17 UTC+1, William Stein wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bill Page >>> wrote: >>> > On 27 April 2015 a

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:46:27 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:36:17 UTC+1, William Stein wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bill Page >>> wrote: >>> > On 27 April 2015 at 10:31, Bill

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:46:27 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:36:17 UTC+1, William Stein wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bill Page >> wrote: >> > On 27 April 2015 at 10:31, Bill Page wrote: >> >> On 27 April 2015 at 10:23, Dima Pasechnik wr

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:36:17 UTC+1, William Stein wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bill Page > wrote: > > On 27 April 2015 at 10:31, Bill Page > wrote: > >> On 27 April 2015 at 10:23, Dima Pasechnik > wrote: > >>> > >>> On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:00:30 UTC+1, Bill Page wro

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:31:50 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: > > On 27 April 2015 at 10:23, Dima Pasechnik > > wrote: > > > > On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:00:30 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: > >> ... > >> What's a good way to debug the fricas interface in SageMathCloud? Can > >> I just copy and then

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bill Page wrote: > On 27 April 2015 at 10:31, Bill Page wrote: >> On 27 April 2015 at 10:23, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >>> >>> On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:00:30 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: ... What's a good way to debug the fricas interface in SageMathCloud? C

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Page
On 27 April 2015 at 10:31, Bill Page wrote: > On 27 April 2015 at 10:23, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:00:30 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: >>> ... >>> What's a good way to debug the fricas interface in SageMathCloud? Can >>> I just copy and then import the code into a workshe

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Page
On 27 April 2015 at 10:23, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:00:30 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: >> ... >> What's a good way to debug the fricas interface in SageMathCloud? Can >> I just copy and then import the code into a worksheet? I.e. avoid >> having to rebuild Sage just to te

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 27 April 2015 15:00:30 UTC+1, Bill Page wrote: > > On 27 April 2015 at 00:20, William Stein > wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Bill Page > wrote: > >> > >> OK, thanks. Any pointers to documentation of "modes" in the Sage > >> worksheet would be fine too. > > > > The

Re: [sage-cloud] Re: [sage-devel] Typeset output in non-Sage modes in Sage Notebook

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Page
On 27 April 2015 at 00:20, William Stein wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Bill Page wrote: >> >> OK, thanks. Any pointers to documentation of "modes" in the Sage >> worksheet would be fine too. > > There's no documentation yet. However, you might find this example > worksheet useful: >

[sage-devel] Re: Change of semantics for 'show'

2015-04-27 Thread 'Martin R' via sage-devel
Am Montag, 27. April 2015 09:07:50 UTC+2 schrieb Nathann Cohen: > > Thus 'show', whose meaning is quite different from pretty_print, will > [...] Is there any concise description (possibly proposed) of what the different output functions should do? I know of the following functions, and have

Re: [sage-devel] Random matrices that already are there

2015-04-27 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015, John Cremona wrote: Is there a good definition of the rank of matrix over a ring which is not an integral domain? What is the rank of the 1x1 matrix (2) over Z/4Z, for example? Hmm... good question. I was just thinking linear dependency (is row n equal to e_1*r_1+...+e_

[sage-devel] Change of semantics for 'show'

2015-04-27 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello everybody, Just to say here that the meaning of 'show' (like in 'show(a_graph)' or 'show(anything_else)') has been changed by #17821 [1]. 'show' has been made an alias 'pretty_print', which has several consequences for graphs (but not only). Indeed, nobody would expect `pretty_print(a_grap