[sage-devel] Re: Policy regarding timing examples/benchmarks in the docs

2014-12-19 Thread Simon King
Hi Nathann, On 2014-12-18, Nathann Cohen wrote: > So something like: > - Big speedup on all architectures --> timings > - Comparable results --> a big red warning or a note saying "try for > yourself, we don't know your hardware" That sounds like a reasonable rule of thumb. Here, it is like th

[sage-devel] Re: Building Maxima spkg fails

2014-12-19 Thread Simon King
Hi Peter, On 2014-12-19, Peter Bruin wrote: > Sigh. Even after installing automake 1.13.4, the maxima spkg refuses to >> build. However, sage still starts. >> > > Yes, one annoying thing is that you specifically need Automake 1.11. Amazing. Anyway: With #17525 applied, maxima builds w/o probl

[sage-devel] lattE upgrade: please review 17529

2014-12-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
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[sage-devel] normaliz update: please review 17426

2014-12-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
this is an easy review! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@go

Re: [sage-devel] Plenty of review material out there...

2014-12-19 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Friday, December 19, 2014 4:03:44 PM UTC+1, Bruno Grenet wrote: > > I've changed recently the status of a ticket to "needs review" since I > think it is not relevant anymore, and I wanted it to be closed. I now > guess it is not the right approach... What should I do in such a case? > > Put

Re: [sage-devel] Plenty of review material out there...

2014-12-19 Thread Bruno Grenet
I've changed recently the status of a ticket to "needs review" since I think it is not relevant anymore, and I wanted it to be closed. I now guess it is not the right approach... What should I do in such a case? For concreteness it is ticket #2907 (http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/2907) that as

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Building Maxima spkg fails

2014-12-19 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-12-19 13:46, Simon King wrote: Here is the log: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/SimonKing/logs/install-6.5.b3.log Note that it ended with byte-compiling a lot of stuff from the Sage library. Seems unlikely to me that this was done parallel to building maxima... Why unlikely? That's

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Building Maxima spkg fails

2014-12-19 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-12-19 13:59, Simon King wrote: So, sage will keep reporting all failed build attempts that have ever happened in the past and that have not been followed by a successful build of (a more recent version of) the same package. Whether it's a good idea or not, that's indeed the case. -- You

[sage-devel] Plenty of review material out there...

2014-12-19 Thread kcrisman
Hi all, See http://trac.sagemath.org/report/30 for the 283 tickets currently needing review. Wow! I want to encourage people to take a little time to look at these, because I think that many of them are either painfully easy to review, or in fact are not needing review at all. Painfully easy

[sage-devel] Re: Building Maxima spkg fails

2014-12-19 Thread Peter Bruin
Hi Simon, Sigh. Even after installing automake 1.13.4, the maxima spkg refuses to > build. However, sage still starts. > Yes, one annoying thing is that you specifically need Automake 1.11. Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" gro

[sage-devel] Re: Building Maxima spkg fails

2014-12-19 Thread kcrisman
> > So, sage will keep reporting all failed build attempts that have ever > happened in the past and that have not been followed by a successful > build of (a more recent version of) the same package. > Yeah, I was wondering about that too. -- You received this message because you are subsc

[sage-devel] Re: GCC 4.9.2 needs binutils 2.23 on x86 (32bit)

2014-12-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-12-19, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On 2014-12-19, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: >> In the thread >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-support/0eDV-fbXXyE >> somebody on 32-bit x86 Debian Linux couldn't compile Sage due to an >> outdated assembler not supporting the "rep ret" instruction w

[sage-devel] Re: Building Maxima spkg fails

2014-12-19 Thread Simon King
Hi! On 2014-12-19, Simon King wrote: > So, "make" will report *all* errors that have ever been recorded in the > install log? Not a good solution, I think. Note that deleting install.log has not been enough to remove the warning. Apparently it is needed to remove logs/pkgs/... to fix it. So, sa

[sage-devel] Re: Building Maxima spkg fails

2014-12-19 Thread Simon King
Hi Peter, On 2014-12-19, Simon King wrote: > On 2014-12-19, Peter Bruin wrote: >> The build failure should be fixed by http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17525 > > Thank you! For now, I attempted to fix the problem by installing automake, > since the ticket says that the build fails if automake is

[sage-devel] Re: Building Maxima spkg fails

2014-12-19 Thread Simon King
Hi Jeroen, On 2014-12-19, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2014-12-19 12:54, Simon King wrote: >> 1. even though building the spkg failed, the build process was >> continued. > Are you sure? Keep in mind that, for parallel builds, other packages > which were being built are still continued. Imagine th

[sage-devel] Re: Building Maxima spkg fails

2014-12-19 Thread Simon King
Hi Peter, On 2014-12-19, Peter Bruin wrote: > The build failure should be fixed by http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17525 Thank you! For now, I attempted to fix the problem by installing automake, since the ticket says that the build fails if automake is missing. Best regards, Simon -- You re

[sage-devel] Re: Building Maxima spkg fails

2014-12-19 Thread Peter Bruin
The build failure should be fixed by http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17525 Peter Op vrijdag 19 december 2014 12:54:37 UTC+1 schreef Simon King: > > Hi! > > With the latest develop, "make start" fails to build maxima. The log is > at > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/SimonKing/logs/maxima

Re: [sage-devel] Building Maxima spkg fails

2014-12-19 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-12-19 12:54, Simon King wrote: 1. even though building the spkg failed, the build process was continued. Are you sure? Keep in mind that, for parallel builds, other packages which were being built are still continued. Imagine that you are installing Maxima and R in parallel. When Maxima

[sage-devel] Building Maxima spkg fails

2014-12-19 Thread Simon King
Hi! With the latest develop, "make start" fails to build maxima. The log is at http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/SimonKing/logs/maxima-5.35.1.p0.log Two things are very strange: 1. even though building the spkg failed, the build process was continued. And Sage even starts! And does not crash

Re: [sage-devel] Catastrophic bug in division in number fields

2014-12-19 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
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Re: [sage-devel] Catastrophic bug in division in number fields

2014-12-19 Thread Bruno Grenet
The bug doesn't seem to be in division: sage: Zi. = ZZ.extension(x^2+1) sage: i 1 sage: 123+456*i 579 Bruno 2014-12-19 12:14 GMT+01:00 John Cremona : > > While preparing examples with Gaussian Integers for an undergraduate > course I discovered this terrible bug: > > sage: Zi. = ZZ.extension(x

[sage-devel] Catastrophic bug in division in number fields

2014-12-19 Thread John Cremona
While preparing examples with Gaussian Integers for an undergraduate course I discovered this terrible bug: sage: Zi. = ZZ.extension(x^2+1) sage: (123+456*i)/3 193 I note that the type of Zi here is Order in Number Field in i with defining polynomial x^2 + 1 (not "maximal order" which might be th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Checking whether a Parent models the real field

2014-12-19 Thread martin . vgagern
On Friday, December 19, 2014 10:25:26 AM UTC+1, John Cremona wrote: > > It's quite possible that both of those were written by me, since I did > write code which had to distinguish between real and complex places. The > number of different "real fields" which people might use is rather large, >

[sage-devel] Re: GCC 4.9.2 needs binutils 2.23 on x86 (32bit)

2014-12-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-12-19, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > In the thread > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-support/0eDV-fbXXyE > somebody on 32-bit x86 Debian Linux couldn't compile Sage due to an > outdated assembler not supporting the "rep ret" instruction which our > GCC-4.9.2 generates. > > Accordi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Checking whether a Parent models the real field

2014-12-19 Thread John Cremona
On Thursday, December 18, 2014 12:47:31 PM UTC, martin@gmx.net wrote: > > On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:14:35 PM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: >> >> > However, I wonder if there is a more elegant solution: is >> > there currently a way to determine whether a given Parent class >>

[sage-devel] GCC 4.9.2 needs binutils 2.23 on x86 (32bit)

2014-12-19 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
In the thread https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-support/0eDV-fbXXyE somebody on 32-bit x86 Debian Linux couldn't compile Sage due to an outdated assembler not supporting the "rep ret" instruction which our GCC-4.9.2 generates. According to https://sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=bin