[sage-devel] Re: Project: add hundreds of contributors to sage

2014-05-30 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-05-30, kcrisman wrote: > > > On Friday, May 30, 2014 2:19:24 AM UTC-4, Nathann Cohen wrote: >> >> If I understand your complaint correctly, the problem is that >>> re-compiling after switching branches is too expensive. >>> >> >> You *NEVER* need to recompile everything when switching br

[sage-devel] except NotImplementedError:

2014-05-30 Thread leif
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/imperfection-isnt-oppression.html Something to add to the README / online docs... ? ;-) -leif -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscr

[sage-devel] Re: Project: add hundreds of contributors to sage

2014-05-30 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-05-30, Nathann Cohen wrote: > >> >> If I understand your complaint correctly, the problem is that >> re-compiling after switching branches is too expensive. >> > > You *NEVER* need to recompile everything when switching branches. There is > a trick : you should never checkout a branch b

[sage-devel] Re: Chebfun

2014-05-30 Thread Chris Swierczewski
> > What I find particularly interesting is that they went to OSS fairly > early, but of course it relies on proprietary underneath with Matlab; > they're open-sourcing everything they can, and of course Matlab is pretty > available compared to other programs > For my Master's project I wrote

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-30 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Yes, that is my point. I just mentioned this as a quick way to show a plain, clear and direct use case. I didn't want to pick a more exciting and speculative one. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407

[sage-devel] Re: Project: add hundreds of contributors to sage

2014-05-30 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Just got a Github Education account today for my lab, which led me to look a bit more at their site. This video is relevant: https://education.github.com/stories#UCBerkeley > If extra eyes were all that were necessary, there would be no long-standing mathematical conjectures. What is needed is bot

Re: [sage-devel] Chebfun

2014-05-30 Thread John Cremona
On 30 May 2014 17:42, William Stein wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 9:11 AM, kcrisman wrote: >> Interesting project I was just made aware of. Anyone (say, anyone at >> Oxford...) know more? >> >> http://www2.maths.ox.ac.uk/chebfun/about/ >> >> What I find particularly interesting is that they w

Re: [sage-devel] Chebfun

2014-05-30 Thread kcrisman
> > I expressed disappointment by their reliance on Matlab, and especially > that they use core language features of Matlab that evidently not > available in Octave (at least at the time). > > Though another opinion a Sage dev who shall remain nameless gave is "From my experience, Octave is wa

Re: [sage-devel] Chebfun

2014-05-30 Thread William Stein
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 9:11 AM, kcrisman wrote: > Interesting project I was just made aware of. Anyone (say, anyone at > Oxford...) know more? > > http://www2.maths.ox.ac.uk/chebfun/about/ > > What I find particularly interesting is that they went to OSS fairly early, > but of course it relies o

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-30 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:28:58PM +0200, Paul-Olivier Dehaye wrote: >""" >E.g. when a > borderline feature is meaningful in the context of Sage, is useful > for a sister project, but does not yet have a direct use case > within Sage ... >""" >Correct me if I am wrong

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Project: add hundreds of contributors to sage

2014-05-30 Thread kcrisman
> > Hmm, I was kind of going on the "avoid unnecessary merges" thing. >> > > You can of course do whatever you want on your computer as long as you > don't upload it... > > Right, but the problem is that currently I am uploading it ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [sage-devel] Chebfun

2014-05-30 Thread John Cremona
I have heard talks about this from Trevethen, and one of his students gave a talk about it at the Sage-Flint days in Warwick a few years ago. John On 30 May 2014 17:11, kcrisman wrote: > Interesting project I was just made aware of. Anyone (say, anyone at > Oxford...) know more? > > http://www2

[sage-devel] Chebfun

2014-05-30 Thread kcrisman
Interesting project I was just made aware of. Anyone (say, anyone at Oxford...) know more? http://www2.maths.ox.ac.uk/chebfun/about/ What I find particularly interesting is that they went to OSS fairly early, but of course it relies on proprietary underneath with Matlab; they're open-sourcing

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How to write packages of sage

2014-05-30 Thread John Cremona
On 30 May 2014 14:29, kcrisman wrote: >> > which reminds me to remind people to submit to this if they have >> > something! >> >> I am duly reminded, and have a contribution to make, but on that page >> it says to contact >> Minh Van Nguyen >> -- is he still doing this? >> > > John, I believe so!

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Project: add hundreds of contributors to sage

2014-05-30 Thread Volker Braun
On Friday, May 30, 2014 1:18:43 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: > > Hmm, I was kind of going on the "avoid unnecessary merges" thing. > You can of course do whatever you want on your computer as long as you don't upload it... Also I am scared about merge conflicts, which I do not know how to handle

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How to write packages of sage

2014-05-30 Thread kcrisman
> > > which reminds me to remind people to submit to this if they have > something! > > I am duly reminded, and have a contribution to make, but on that page > it says to contact > Minh Van Nguyen > -- is he still doing this? > > John, I believe so! I think that is the Sage contribution he

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How to write packages of sage

2014-05-30 Thread John Cremona
On 30 May 2014 13:23, kcrisman wrote: > Dear Hilbert/fresh man, >> >> BTW:If there some cool cases that solve problem with sage,please tell me. > > > Again, not sure what you mean, but > http://www.sagemath.org/library-publications.html is a good place to start - > which reminds me to remind peop

[sage-devel] Re: How to write packages of sage

2014-05-30 Thread kcrisman
Dear Hilbert/fresh man, In my opinion,the packages of matlab are more important than matlab itself. > So I wonder if there is any packages of sage,like an implement of some > simulation models. > And if I want to write some packages of sage,waht format should I use, > *.sage or *.py? > > Yes, R

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Project: add hundreds of contributors to sage

2014-05-30 Thread kcrisman
On Friday, May 30, 2014 2:19:24 AM UTC-4, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > If I understand your complaint correctly, the problem is that >> re-compiling after switching branches is too expensive. >> > > You *NEVER* need to recompile everything when switching branches. There is > a trick : you should n

[sage-devel] Please review #/16101

2014-05-30 Thread Volker Braun
#16101: Python backend for Polyhedra http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16101 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.co

[sage-devel] Re: setuptools install problem

2014-05-30 Thread Ralf Stephan
On Saturday, May 17, 2014 11:42:43 AM UTC+2, Ralf Stephan wrote: > > It is possible that the /tmp installation is broken anyway. With > setuptools-3.6 > I get 4 out of 4 failures because some paths point back to the original > sage/ > directory, but some not and the underlying files are not there