Re: [sage-devel] Re: ATLAS broken on OpenSolaris - different reason to on SPARC.

2013-10-11 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
No, it fails. The first significant error I can see is an invalid syntax for the assembler, which by the way is the GNU assembler version 2.20. gcc -fPIC -m32 -x assembler-with-cpp -DL2SIZE=4194304 -I/export/home/drkirkby/unsets/sage-5.13.beta0/spkg/build/atlas-3.10.1.p6/ATLAS-build/include -I/exp

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ATLAS broken on OpenSolaris - different reason to on SPARC.

2013-10-11 Thread Volker Braun
Trac seems to not work, but update spkg is here: http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/vbraun/spkg/atlas-3.10.1.p6.spkg Please test and let us know if you get any further... On Saturday, October 12, 2013 12:14:03 AM UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote: > > Updated spkg at http://trac.sagemath.org/15270 >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ATLAS broken on OpenSolaris - different reason to on SPARC.

2013-10-11 Thread Volker Braun
Updated spkg at http://trac.sagemath.org/15270 On Saturday, October 12, 2013 12:05:58 AM UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote: > > No, thats not it. I used unlink and rm interchangeably. Its weird that > unlink is superuser-only on that system but then its not used. > > The problem seems to be that you can'

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ATLAS broken on OpenSolaris - different reason to on SPARC.

2013-10-11 Thread Volker Braun
No, thats not it. I used unlink and rm interchangeably. Its weird that unlink is superuser-only on that system but then its not used. The problem seems to be that you can't delete the current directory (cwd) on that particular filesystem. On all other platforms thats not an issue. I'll update t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ATLAS broken on OpenSolaris - different reason to on SPARC.

2013-10-11 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
The file system is the 128-bit ZFS. I could delete the directory using rmdir. But a look at the man page for unlink says "Only super-users can use these commands on directories." so that is why it is failing. See below for part of the man page drkirkby@hawk:~$ man unlink Reformatting page.

[sage-devel] Re: ATLAS broken on OpenSolaris - different reason to on SPARC.

2013-10-11 Thread Volker Braun
I think the gcc -V is not a problem, just the ATLAS build system trying out options. It dies when it is unable to delete /export/home/drkirkby/unsets/sage-5.13.beta0/spkg/build/atlas-3.10.1.p5/ATLAS-build, whats up with that directory? Is there some weird filesystem that disallows unlink for

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Trac down again

2013-10-11 Thread Volker Braun
Thanks! The trac<->git changeset browser obviously has to grind through the repo all the time, so this is the likely candidate for io load. But the repo isn't all that large all things considered, it should easily fit into memory. Some filesystem tuning might be really benefitial, in particular

[sage-devel] ATLAS broken on OpenSolaris - different reason to on SPARC.

2013-10-11 Thread David Kirkby
I reported earlier that ATLAS breaks on SPARC, but it is breaking on OpenSolaris too, so I would expect it to break on Solaris 12 too. The reason it breaks on OpenSolaris seems a bit odd - a bad flag (-V) is sent to gcc. So it is a non-GNUism !!! drkirkby@hawk:~/unsets/sage-5.13.beta0$ cat /etc/re

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Trac down again

2013-10-11 Thread Keith Clawson
The physical machine that Trac is running has been experiencing heavy disk IO from different processes for the past 3 days, which is likely contributing to the problems. The image file is also located on a ZFS volume, and I've seen odd issues with ZFS recently. I think I will move Trac to the n

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Trac down again

2013-10-11 Thread Volker Braun
Yes, we should allow indexing of tickets but not of the timeline and the changeset browser. On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:32:15 PM UTC+1, William wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Volker Braun > > > wrote: > > Trac isn't using any swap. It is pulling quite a lot of CPU load. > Loo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Trac down again

2013-10-11 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Volker Braun wrote: > Trac isn't using any swap. It is pulling quite a lot of CPU load. Looking at > the log, it seems somebody is indexing trac and pulling up old changesets > and timeline (both are notoriously slow in trac). For example: > > http://trac.sagemath

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Trac down again

2013-10-11 Thread Volker Braun
Trac isn't using any swap. It is pulling quite a lot of CPU load. Looking at the log, it seems somebody is indexing trac and pulling up old changesets and timeline (both are notoriously slow in trac). For example: http://trac.sagemath.org/timeline?from=2009-05-06T13%3A17%3A39-07%3A00&precision=s

Re: [sage-devel] ATLAS in Sage broke on SPARC if linker is Sun - GNUisms have crept in again.

2013-10-11 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I'm guessing it was set up to build Sage faster, but whoever configured the buildbot would have done that. I very much doubt it is done system wide, but I can't' recall my login details on that machine to check. Dave On 11 October 2013 17:12, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2013-10-11 15:59, Dr. Dav

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Trac down again

2013-10-11 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:52 AM, William Stein wrote: > On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >> Is it down again ? > > It's down. At the moment, I think Keith is the only one who knows how > to fix it easily, so we should probably wait for him to wake up / > check his email.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Trac down again

2013-10-11 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > Is it down again ? It's down. At the moment, I think Keith is the only one who knows how to fix it easily, so we should probably wait for him to wake up / check his email. I'm sure he'll take additional steps today to make trac more r

[sage-devel] Re: Trac down again

2013-10-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
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Re: [sage-devel] ATLAS in Sage broke on SPARC if linker is Sun - GNUisms have crept in again.

2013-10-11 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2013-10-11 15:59, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On 11 October 2013 14:02, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: Also compare with this, a successful build of ATLAS on a similar machine: http://build.sagemath.org/sage/builders/Skynet%20mark%20%28SunOS%205.10-32%29/builds/353/steps/shell_5/logs/atlas But that is

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Interesting article about "open-source commercial"

2013-10-11 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:01 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > >> If you haven't been following the LMS scene for a while, a new AGPL >> competitor is on the scene - with over 200 employees. >> >> http://voice.instructure.com/blog/bid/148942/Our-Open-Source-Strategy >> >> Interesting points, and of course t

[sage-devel] Re: Interesting article about "open-source commercial"

2013-10-11 Thread kcrisman
If you haven't been following the LMS scene for a while, a new AGPL > competitor is on the scene - with over 200 employees. > > http://voice.instructure.com/blog/bid/148942/Our-Open-Source-Strategy > > Interesting points, and of course the question of whether it stays open > remains... > Thoug

[sage-devel] Interesting article about "open-source commercial"

2013-10-11 Thread kcrisman
If you haven't been following the LMS scene for a while, a new AGPL competitor is on the scene - with over 200 employees. http://voice.instructure.com/blog/bid/148942/Our-Open-Source-Strategy Interesting points, and of course the question of whether it stays open remains... -- You received th

Re: [sage-devel] Fwd: [Ecls-list] Project status and changes (please read)

2013-10-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
There is some discussion about the licence issue on ecl mailing list. Juan did not reply yet. http://sourceforge.net/p/ecls/mailman/ecls-list/thread/E1VTECl-ZM-2W%40hera.math.uni.wroc.pl/#msg31493829 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" gr

Re: [sage-devel] Fwd: [Ecls-list] Project status and changes (please read)

2013-10-11 Thread William Stein
On Oct 11, 2013 7:51 AM, "Dima Pasechnik" wrote: > > Hi, this might have a negative effect on Sage's lisp support status. > Just in case. > -- Forwarded message -- > From: "Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll" > Date: 7 Oct 2013 09:55 > Subject: [Ecls-list] Project status and changes (please

[sage-devel] Fwd: [Ecls-list] Project status and changes (please read)

2013-10-11 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Hi, this might have a negative effect on Sage's lisp support status. Just in case. -- Forwarded message -- From: "Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll" Date: 7 Oct 2013 09:55 Subject: [Ecls-list] Project status and changes (please read) To: "list-ecl" Cc: > Hi everybody, > > as you may have n

Re: [sage-devel] ATLAS in Sage broke on SPARC if linker is Sun - GNUisms have crept in again.

2013-10-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
I confirm it fails in the same way for me and agree with VOlker: we don't care if upstream shared stuff fails at the moment. On Friday, October 11, 2013 4:32:08 PM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: > > We can just ignore the error and continue with our own libtool-based > library build. This is now htt

Re: [sage-devel] ATLAS in Sage broke on SPARC if linker is Sun - GNUisms have crept in again.

2013-10-11 Thread Volker Braun
We can just ignore the error and continue with our own libtool-based library build. This is now http://trac.sagemath.org/15270 On Friday, October 11, 2013 2:59:20 PM UTC+1, Dr David Kirkby wrote: > > On 11 October 2013 14:02, Jeroen Demeyer > > wrote: > > Also compare with this, a successful

Re: [sage-devel] ATLAS in Sage broke on SPARC if linker is Sun - GNUisms have crept in again.

2013-10-11 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 11 October 2013 14:02, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > Also compare with this, a successful build of ATLAS on a similar machine: > http://build.sagemath.org/sage/builders/Skynet%20mark%20%28SunOS%205.10-32%29/builds/353/steps/shell_5/logs/atlas But that is not building ATLAS! The system has a pre-ins

Re: [sage-devel] rosemary.math.uga.edu going away

2013-10-11 Thread William Stein
On Oct 11, 2013 5:58 AM, "Jeroen Demeyer" wrote: > > It seems we will lose access to rosemary.math.uga.edu. If you have anything there, make sure it's backup up! > > Too bad, it was the most reliable and one of the fastest buildbot machines we had... R.I.P. > > > On 2013-10-11 14:52, "José R. Mala

Re: [sage-devel] Should the Sage manual mention SageMathCloud?

2013-10-11 Thread William Stein
On Oct 11, 2013 12:00 AM, "Jeroen Demeyer" wrote: > > Should we mention in the Sage manual (for example, here: http://www.sagemath.org/doc/installation/quick-guide.html) that it is entirely possible to run Sage without actually installation, using SageMathCloud? > Yes, since this (+sage cell) wil

Re: [sage-devel] ATLAS in Sage broke on SPARC if linker is Sun - GNUisms have crept in again.

2013-10-11 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Also compare with this, a successful build of ATLAS on a similar machine: http://build.sagemath.org/sage/builders/Skynet%20mark%20%28SunOS%205.10-32%29/builds/353/steps/shell_5/logs/atlas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscr

[sage-devel] rosemary.math.uga.edu going away

2013-10-11 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
It seems we will lose access to rosemary.math.uga.edu. If you have anything there, make sure it's backup up! Too bad, it was the most reliable and one of the fastest buildbot machines we had... R.I.P. On 2013-10-11 14:52, "José R. Malagón" wrote: Hi, Jon Hanke is no longer affiliated with U

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ATLAS in Sage broke on SPARC if linker is Sun - GNUisms have crept in again.

2013-10-11 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
It failed again after typing "make". I attached the original log as you requested, but if you want the new one, which is likely to be twice the size, then I can do that too. BTW, I am purposly using an old version of Solaris 10 drkirkby@buzzard:~$ cat /etc/release Solaris

[sage-devel] Re: Should the Sage manual mention SageMathCloud?

2013-10-11 Thread kcrisman
On Friday, October 11, 2013 3:00:05 AM UTC-4, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > Should we mention in the Sage manual (for example, here: > http://www.sagemath.org/doc/installation/quick-guide.html) that it is > entirely possible to run Sage without actually installation, using > SageMathCloud? > > Do

[sage-devel] Run Python scripts from sage

2013-10-11 Thread Tharindu Rusira
Hi, I'm using sage 5.11 (built from developer source code). I have written some python scripts that I want to call within sage. I copied my source files into my sage path but when I call * sage:load("file_name.py")* sage fails to find some imported modules in my code. p.s. all source files and dep

[sage-devel] Re: ATLAS in Sage broke on SPARC if linker is Sun - GNUisms have crept in again.

2013-10-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
(and I'm using the Sun ld as well) On Friday, October 11, 2013 1:11:52 PM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > I'm currently building sage 5.12 as well on sparc/solaris, I'll report the > status of ATLAS for me here. > > On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:43:27 AM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: >> >> Ther

[sage-devel] Re: ATLAS in Sage broke on SPARC if linker is Sun - GNUisms have crept in again.

2013-10-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
I'm currently building sage 5.12 as well on sparc/solaris, I'll report the status of ATLAS for me here. On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:43:27 AM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: > > There are two attempts to build shared libraries, once using upstream's > method of a hand-crafted makefile (in ATLAS-bui

[sage-devel] Re: ATLAS in Sage broke on SPARC if linker is Sun - GNUisms have crept in again.

2013-10-11 Thread Volker Braun
There are two attempts to build shared libraries, once using upstream's method of a hand-crafted makefile (in ATLAS-build) and then once more with our own libtool-based system (in ATLAS-lib). Your failure is in the former. The build should have proceeded with another attempt. Post the full build

[sage-devel] ATLAS in Sage broke on SPARC if linker is Sun - GNUisms have crept in again.

2013-10-11 Thread David Kirkby
I know someone made some fairly major changes to the ATLAS package some time ago, which are probably the cause of a new bug. There is a problem on Solaris SPARC (but not necessarily x86) if the linker is the Sun one (which is the best choice), and not the GNU linker. When ATLAS is configured, it

[sage-devel] Should the Sage manual mention SageMathCloud?

2013-10-11 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Should we mention in the Sage manual (for example, here: http://www.sagemath.org/doc/installation/quick-guide.html) that it is entirely possible to run Sage without actually installation, using SageMathCloud? Jeroen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups