Re: [sage-devel] Re: New Trac Server

2013-07-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 4:38 PM, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 4:34 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> Isn't one way all we need? The idea is that when one gets an account >> on trac, one automatically gets access to the wiki as well. There is >> no notion of creating an account o

Re: [sage-devel] Re: New Trac Server

2013-07-14 Thread R. Andrew Ohana
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 4:34 PM, William Stein wrote: > Isn't one way all we need? The idea is that when one gets an account > on trac, one automatically gets access to the wiki as well. There is > no notion of creating an account on the wiki. > That is what I thought too, but then I noticed th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: New Trac Server

2013-07-14 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 4:29 PM, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: > From what I could tell, the wiki is simply looking at a single file. If > whoever setup the wiki to use trac's login info (which I think I recall > being Mike Hansen) wants to chime in here and let us know that would be > appreciated. > > I

Re: [sage-devel] Re: New Trac Server

2013-07-14 Thread R. Andrew Ohana
>From what I could tell, the wiki is simply looking at a single file. If whoever setup the wiki to use trac's login info (which I think I recall being Mike Hansen) wants to chime in here and let us know that would be appreciated. I've created a daemon on the trac server that will do one direction

Fwd: Re: [sage-devel] Re: SymbolicData

2013-07-14 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi, mhh, I think the best option is indeed to ask on [sage-devel] directly, either for help in general or specific questions. But also CCed Simon King who might be interested. Cheers, Martin -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [sage-devel] Re: SymbolicData Date: Sunday 1

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Products of permutations use nonstandard order of operation

2013-07-14 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi Darij, On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 08:39:02PM +0200, Darij Grinberg wrote: > One way to do it, of course, is by making the symmetric group algebra > an AlgebraWithRealizations (like most combinatorial Hopf algebras), > and implement the two different conventions as two different > realizati

[sage-devel] Re: New Trac Server

2013-07-14 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:52:49 AM UTC+2, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: > > … so please let me know if there is anything missing or odd after the > switch > A while back I was asking about the sagemath wiki, which is synchronizing it's users with the one from trac. How is this handled now? H --

[sage-devel] Re: Products of permutations use nonstandard order of operation

2013-07-14 Thread Volker Braun
On Sunday, July 14, 2013 4:49:36 AM UTC-4, vdelecroix wrote: > As Volker Braun mentioned, the main problem is that it is possible to > write p(i) in Sage! I suggest that we remove the __call__ attribute of > permutations (it does not exists in GAP but I do not know for other > softwares). If we

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Products of permutations use nonstandard order of operation

2013-07-14 Thread Darij Grinberg
Hi all, On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Travis Scrimshaw wrote: > Hey everyone who's following #14772, >I don't want to change the patch, which has the multiplication in a > GlobalOptions class, since it's just lifts the previous options up (a > standard dict). Thus any change should depend

[sage-devel] Re: Products of permutations use nonstandard order of operation

2013-07-14 Thread vdelecroix
Here is a Sage argument in favor of right action: vectors are row vectors in Sage (on which matrices act on right). There has been a choice to silently ignore transposition and we can write vA or Av in Sage... but still the natural way to do it is through right action (if we do it the other way

[sage-devel] Re: Products of permutations use nonstandard order of operation

2013-07-14 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2013-07-13, Darij Grinberg wrote: > Hi Dima, > > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> IMHO it's a not as obsolete convention as you seem to imply; isn't e.g. Magma >> using the same convention as GAP? >> Not mentioning a lot of group theory literature... > > I don't know a