Re: [sage-devel] Re: SAGE_ATLAS_LIB and sage -bdist

2013-06-11 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 11/06/2013 23:54, Jean-Pierre Flori a écrit : I'll have a look at the ARM ATLAS issue later, I'm sure we can manage to get something working! Sebastien Villemot got something going further yesterday on the debian atlas 3.10.1 package ; I still have to run ptestlong on it to check for corr

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Using ssh for port-forwarding

2013-06-11 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 03:54:58AM -0700, mmarco wrote: > I tried to do that, and it gives some problems. > > I don't know why, but it seems that if you launch maple through ssh, > you don't get the prompt > in the same way that you get it when you do > it locally: it shows only after you press in

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SAGE_ATLAS_LIB and sage -bdist

2013-06-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 9:41:20 PM UTC+2, Snark wrote: > > Le 11/06/2013 15:34, leif a �crit : > > Well, if you want the libraries to be part of the bdist (i.e., ship > > them), why don't you just copy them into the Sage tree before running > > 'sage -bdist'? > > I think that's what I'll

[sage-devel] Re: Paper publication of the book "Calcul Mathematique avec Sage"

2013-06-11 Thread Dox
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Paper publication of the book "Calcul Mathematique avec Sage"

2013-06-11 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:14 PM, John Cremona wrote: > I like the "need a better name than MANIN" jotting on page 4! > > John Gosh, I hope nobody shows this to Yuri! :-) > > On 11 June 2013 20:04, William Stein wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:28 AM, kcrisman wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SAGE_ATLAS_LIB and sage -bdist

2013-06-11 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 11/06/2013 15:34, leif a écrit : Well, if you want the libraries to be part of the bdist (i.e., ship them), why don't you just copy them into the Sage tree before running 'sage -bdist'? I think that's what I'll do... or there will be no more ARM bdist :-( -- You received this message becaus

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Paper publication of the book "Calcul Mathematique avec Sage"

2013-06-11 Thread John Cremona
I like the "need a better name than MANIN" jotting on page 4! John On 11 June 2013 20:04, William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:28 AM, kcrisman wrote: >> >> >> On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:01:33 AM UTC-4, Nicolas M. Thiéry wrote: >>> >>> Dear Sage(-Combinat) developpers, >>>

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-algebra] Paper publication of the book "Calcul Mathematique avec Sage"

2013-06-11 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > Dear Sage(-Combinat) developpers, > > We are happy to announce the paper publication of our french book > "Calcul Mathématique avec Sage". It's available from your favorite > online book store for a dozen dollars. Of course the el

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Paper publication of the book "Calcul Mathematique avec Sage"

2013-06-11 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:28 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > > On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:01:33 AM UTC-4, Nicolas M. Thiéry wrote: >> >> Dear Sage(-Combinat) developpers, >> >> We are happy to announce the paper publication of our french book >> "Calcul Math�matique avec Sage". > > > Congratul

[sage-devel] Re: recompilation with "sage -clone"

2013-06-11 Thread leif
leif wrote: leif wrote: leif wrote: Looks like reinstalling the Sage library spkg would meanwhile also trigger the rebuild of *all* extension modules; not sure since when though... (seen with Sage 5.10.beta5 at least) Yep. This is because #14570, merged into Sage 5.10.beta4, completely brea

[sage-devel] Re: recompilation with "sage -clone"

2013-06-11 Thread leif
leif wrote: leif wrote: Looks like reinstalling the Sage library spkg would meanwhile also trigger the rebuild of *all* extension modules; not sure since when though... (seen with Sage 5.10.beta5 at least) Yep. This is because #14570, merged into Sage 5.10.beta4, completely breaks sage-sync-

[sage-devel] Re: Paper publication of the book "Calcul Mathematique avec Sage"

2013-06-11 Thread kcrisman
On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:01:33 AM UTC-4, Nicolas M. Thiéry wrote: > > Dear Sage(-Combinat) developpers, > > We are happy to announce the paper publication of our french book > "Calcul Math�matique avec Sage". > Congratulations! -- You received this message because you are subs

[sage-devel] Paper publication of the book "Calcul Mathematique avec Sage"

2013-06-11 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Dear Sage(-Combinat) developpers, We are happy to announce the paper publication of our french book "Calcul Mathématique avec Sage". It's available from your favorite online book store for a dozen dollars. Of course the electronic version remains and will remain free! http://sageb

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE_ATLAS_LIB and sage -bdist

2013-06-11 Thread leif
Julien Puydt wrote: Le 11/06/2013 11:33, Volker Braun a écrit : I'd say archiving the symlink is exactly what you'd want. If you use system libraries for compiling Sage then they become dependencies of the binary distribution, obviously. What would break if they were copied instead of linked?

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE_ATLAS_LIB and sage -bdist

2013-06-11 Thread Volker Braun
On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:47:48 AM UTC+1, Snark wrote: > What would break if they were copied instead of linked? > Probably not in the case of ATLAS since that library is pretty self-contained. You might ask in general why do we compile libraries instead of copying them from the build hos

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE_ATLAS_LIB and sage -bdist

2013-06-11 Thread Felix Salfelder
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:47:48AM +0200, Julien Puydt wrote: > Le 11/06/2013 11:33, Volker Braun a écrit : > >I'd say archiving the symlink is exactly what you'd want. If you use > >system libraries for compiling Sage then they become dependencies of the > >binary distribution, obviously. > > Wha

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE_ATLAS_LIB and sage -bdist

2013-06-11 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 11/06/2013 11:33, Volker Braun a écrit : I'd say archiving the symlink is exactly what you'd want. If you use system libraries for compiling Sage then they become dependencies of the binary distribution, obviously. What would break if they were copied instead of linked? The current answers

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE_ATLAS_LIB and sage -bdist

2013-06-11 Thread Volker Braun
I'd say archiving the symlink is exactly what you'd want. If you use system libraries for compiling Sage then they become dependencies of the binary distribution, obviously. On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:08:20 AM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 06/11/2013 09:43 AM, Julien Puydt wrote: > > H

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE_ATLAS_LIB and sage -bdist

2013-06-11 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 06/11/2013 09:43 AM, Julien Puydt wrote: Hi, shouldn't the atlas spkg copy the static library instead of linking them, in order for sage -bdist to produce a working archive? Can't we just declare SAGE_ATLAS_LIB to be fundamentally incompatible with making a bdist? -- You received this mess

[sage-devel] SAGE_ATLAS_LIB and sage -bdist

2013-06-11 Thread Julien Puydt
Hi, shouldn't the atlas spkg copy the static library instead of linking them, in order for sage -bdist to produce a working archive? With the current situation, sage -bdist will archive a symlink, which might not (hence will not -- it's not pessimism if it's true...) be available on a target

[sage-devel] Misc changes to install guide (#14705) needs review

2013-06-11 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
There are various small changes I would like to make to the install guide for Sage 5.10, such as dropping OpenSolaris from the supported platforms and mentioning that Clang doesn't work (with ticket reference). Please review: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/14705 -- You received thi