[sage-devel] Re: 5.5. release notes

2012-12-26 Thread Alex J Best
I'm afraid this isn't particularly cool looking but, here is some data and a couple of charts: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPdD0Nnsj7BdDBENDRxTVNtR3c2VEVPeWpSN3BvV1E I was hoping to see some stronger trends, but I think due to the nature of Sage development (Sage days etc.) ther

[sage-devel] Re: 5.5. release notes

2012-12-26 Thread kcrisman
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:27:43 PM UTC-5, Harald Schilly wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:24:14 PM UTC+1, Jan Groenewald wrote: >> >> The following 59 people contributed to this release. Of those, 4 made >> their first contribution to Sage: >> >> Is there a graph of this o

[sage-devel] Re: How to proceed to reduce Sage's memory leaking?

2012-12-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:34:49 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > But see > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/cython-users/4es75DeacRA/discussion > as well... > I'll give this new Cython 0.17.3 a try. And it is even packaged at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/13832 --

[sage-devel] Re: How to proceed to reduce Sage's memory leaking?

2012-12-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
But see https://groups.google.com/d/topic/cython-users/4es75DeacRA/discussion as well... I'll give this new Cython 0.17.3 a try. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. To u

[sage-devel] Re: How to proceed to reduce Sage's memory leaking?

2012-12-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:28:01 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > And of course, I just found that... > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/cython-users/K5EFvq22UNI/discussion > > But I'm not sure it actually solves our problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribe

[sage-devel] Re: How to proceed to reduce Sage's memory leaking?

2012-12-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
And of course, I just found that... https://groups.google.com/d/topic/cython-users/K5EFvq22UNI/discussion -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this gr

[sage-devel] Re: How to proceed to reduce Sage's memory leaking?

2012-12-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:22:24 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:20:03 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:08:24 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:49

Re: [sage-devel] Build error for sage 5.5

2012-12-26 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
On 12/26/2012 11:23 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > > On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:51:42 AM UTC-5, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2012-12-25 20:22, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > When I am building sage-5.5 inside of sage-5.5 > What does this mean? If it means building Sage inside a

[sage-devel] Re: 5.5. release notes

2012-12-26 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:24:14 PM UTC+1, Jan Groenewald wrote: > > The following 59 people contributed to this release. Of those, 4 made > their first contribution to Sage: > > Is there a graph of this over time? > Not that I'm aware of. Therefore: the source data for this weeks Sage

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE_DEBUG=[yes|no|unset]

2012-12-26 Thread saad saadgee
Yar i do not undarstand u? On 12/27/12, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > > On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:43:16 PM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: >> >> On 2012-12-26 19:04, Volker Braun wrote: >> > * SAGE_DEBUG=no means no debugging symbols (no gcc -g), which >> > basically only saves disk space.

[sage-devel] 5.5. release notes

2012-12-26 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi The following 59 people contributed to this release. Of those, 4 made their first contribution to Sage: Is there a graph of this over time? Regards, Jan -- .~. /V\ Jan Groenewald /( )\www.aims.ac.za ^^-^^ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 5.5 released

2012-12-26 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi The following 59 people contributed to this release. Of those, 4 made their first contribution to Sage: Is there a graph of this over time? Regards, Jan On Wednesday, 26 December 2012 14:57:52 UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > Sage 5.5 was released on 21 December 2012. It is available in

[sage-devel] Re: How to proceed to reduce Sage's memory leaking?

2012-12-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:20:03 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:08:24 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:49:52 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >>> >>> The offending object seems to be a weakref w

[sage-devel] Re: How to proceed to reduce Sage's memory leaking?

2012-12-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:08:24 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:49:52 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >> >> The offending object seems to be a weakref which is not refcounted >> correctly. >> Not sure which yet. >> > Not sure why, but it mi

[sage-devel] Re: How to proceed to reduce Sage's memory leaking?

2012-12-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:49:52 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > The offending object seems to be a weakref which is not refcounted > correctly. > Not sure which yet. > Not sure why, but it might be the one initialized by the Expect class at the line: quit.expect_objects.appe

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE_DEBUG=[yes|no|unset]

2012-12-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:43:16 PM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2012-12-26 19:04, Volker Braun wrote: > > * SAGE_DEBUG=no means no debugging symbols (no gcc -g), which > > basically only saves disk space. > > > > * SAGE_DEBUG=yes builds debug versions if possible (in partic

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE_DEBUG=[yes|no|unset]

2012-12-26 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-12-26 19:04, Volker Braun wrote: > * SAGE_DEBUG=no means no debugging symbols (no gcc -g), which > basically only saves disk space. > > * SAGE_DEBUG=yes builds debug versions if possible (in particular, > Python and Singular). These will be notable slower but allow us to > pinpoint mem

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE_DEBUG=[yes|no|unset]

2012-12-26 Thread Nils Bruin
On Dec 26, 10:18 am, Nils Bruin wrote: > Very minor mod: Also provide an assignable value for SAGE_DEBUG for > the default behaviour, rather than relying on SAGE_DEBUG being unset. > Probably SAGE_DEBUG='', unset SAGE_DEBUG and perhaps also > SAGE_DEBUG='default' should have the same effect. Neve

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE_DEBUG=[yes|no|unset]

2012-12-26 Thread Volker Braun
Forgot to add: This is http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/13865 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel+unsu

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE_DEBUG=[yes|no|unset]

2012-12-26 Thread Nils Bruin
On Dec 26, 10:04 am, Volker Braun wrote: > I propose > that we use SAGE_DEBUG in three different ways: [...] +1. Obvious and easy to use. Very minor mod: Also provide an assignable value for SAGE_DEBUG for the default behaviour, rather than relying on SAGE_DEBUG being unset. Probably SAGE_DEBUG=

[sage-devel] SAGE_DEBUG=[yes|no|unset]

2012-12-26 Thread Volker Braun
Currently, SAGE_DEBUG is documented as "If it is unset (the default) or set to 'yes', then debugging is turned on." As the "How to proceed to reduce Sage's memory leaking" thread shows, we should make it easy for developers to build Python with debugging, which has a certain performance im

[sage-devel] Re: How to proceed to reduce Sage's memory leaking?

2012-12-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
The offending object seems to be a weakref which is not refcounted correctly. Not sure which yet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, se

Re: [sage-devel] Any information about reason of needing to use ancient ipython and pexpect in sagemath ?

2012-12-26 Thread Volker Braun
Pexpect is a nice trick if you want to get off the ground quickly in interfacing another program, but the strategic goal should be to turn it into a shared library or develop a RPC call library that we can plumb into the source code. Your average scientific code is just a scanf/printf loop so i

Re: [sage-devel] Build error for sage 5.5

2012-12-26 Thread kcrisman
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:51:42 AM UTC-5, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2012-12-25 20:22, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > When I am building sage-5.5 inside of sage-5.5 > What does this mean? If it means building Sage inside a Sage shell, > that's not supported and might indeed brea

Re: [sage-devel] Any information about reason of needing to use ancient ipython and pexpect in sagemath ?

2012-12-26 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-12-24 01:30, Francois Bissey wrote: > Well there was a big commit to change the handling of the license 2 > months ago but the last commit before was 4 years ago I think. > So for all purpose it looks abandoned. May be the author is waiting > for someone interested? pexpect is quite horrib

Re: [sage-devel] Sage 5.5 released

2012-12-26 Thread Andrea Lazzarotto
2012/12/26 Jeroen Demeyer > * We closed 92 tickets in this release. For details, see Awesome, I'm going to download it right now. Too bad nobody wanted to review this trivial bugfix: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/13649 -- *Andrea Lazzarotto* - http://andrealazzarotto.com* * --

[sage-devel] Re: How to proceed to reduce Sage's memory leaking?

2012-12-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 12:01:48 AM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 5:36:41 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >> >> In fact it seems you already segfault when going through the line >> from sage.misc.all import * #takes a while >> in sage/all.py, >>

[sage-devel] Sage 5.5 released

2012-12-26 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Sage 5.5 was released on 21 December 2012. It is available in source and binary form from: * http://www.sagemath.org/download.html Sage (http://www.sagemath.org/) is developed by volunteers and combines over 90 open source packages. For instructions about installing Sage, see * http://www.sa

Re: [sage-devel] Build error for sage 5.5

2012-12-26 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-12-25 20:22, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > When I am building sage-5.5 inside of sage-5.5 What does this mean? If it means building Sage inside a Sage shell, that's not supported and might indeed break. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sag

[sage-devel] Re: Build error for sage 5.5

2012-12-26 Thread Volker Braun
I thought that its a missing dependency at first, too. But then he's compiling sage/libs/mpmath/ext_impl.c, which is a cython file from the Sage library. That should be after all spkgs have been installed. In fact, it seems to be the Sage port to FreeBSD so who knows how it is being built. Prob

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Build error for sage 5.5

2012-12-26 Thread Francois Bissey
On 26/12/12 23:47, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On 2012-12-25, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: >> On 12/25/2012 01:22 PM, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: >>> When I am building sage-5.5 inside of sage-5.5, I get the following >>> error in my build log. I was able to build sage-5.5.rc1 with no >>> prob

[sage-devel] Re: Build error for sage 5.5

2012-12-26 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2012-12-25, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > On 12/25/2012 01:22 PM, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: >> When I am building sage-5.5 inside of sage-5.5, I get the following >> error in my build log. I was able to build sage-5.5.rc1 with no >> problem. Am I unique with this problem? I am buil

[sage-devel] 5.5: segfault in modsym/space.py

2012-12-26 Thread Harald Schilly
when testing 5.5, i got this exception. ubuntu 12.10, 64bit. File "/home/opt/sage/sage-5.5/devel/sage-main/sage/modular/modsym/space.py", line 209: sage: ModularSymbols(12,8).character() Exception raised: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/opt/sage/sage-5.5/local/bin/nc