[sage-devel] Re: A short comment about sage-devel

2012-09-19 Thread Simon King
Hi John, On 2012-09-20, John H Palmieri wrote: > Or ask.sagemath.org (not ideal for reporting bugs, but still). I for one hardly ever look at ask.sagemath.org (perhaps once every two months). If a sufficiently large proportion of sage developers does the same then certainly it is a very bad plac

[sage-devel] Re: A short comment about sage-devel

2012-09-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thursday, 20 September 2012 12:34:00 UTC+8, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:14:41 PM UTC-7, jason wrote: >> >> On 9/19/12 11:10 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> > This seems to be a googlegroups problem, and something only Google can >> > fix (or break). >> > P

[sage-devel] Re: A short comment about sage-devel

2012-09-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thursday, 20 September 2012 12:14:41 UTC+8, jason wrote: > > On 9/19/12 11:10 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > This seems to be a googlegroups problem, and something only Google can > > fix (or break). > > Perhaps we indeed need a "real" issue tracker. > > What about using github for this? >

[sage-devel] Re: How to work with principal value when a definite integral?

2012-09-19 Thread Mizuchi
Hi, Nils: Thanks for reply. IMHO, for many physical problems, we just want to know principal value. As you mentioned, we can use other definition to void this issue. However, for more complicated formula, it is hard find the healthy definition. I think it could be better if either (1) sage pro

[sage-devel] Re: A short comment about sage-devel

2012-09-19 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:14:41 PM UTC-7, jason wrote: > > On 9/19/12 11:10 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > This seems to be a googlegroups problem, and something only Google can > > fix (or break). > > Perhaps we indeed need a "real" issue tracker. > > What about using github for this

[sage-devel] Re: A short comment about sage-devel

2012-09-19 Thread Jason Grout
On 9/19/12 11:10 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: This seems to be a googlegroups problem, and something only Google can fix (or break). Perhaps we indeed need a "real" issue tracker. What about using github for this? What's wrong with using trac? Or even Harald's google spreadsheet form? Jason

[sage-devel] Re: A short comment about sage-devel

2012-09-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
This seems to be a googlegroups problem, and something only Google can fix (or break). Perhaps we indeed need a "real" issue tracker. What about using github for this? On Thursday, 20 September 2012 06:16:19 UTC+8, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > --- > Don't take it personally, but sage's bug reporting

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Normalization of a vector

2012-09-19 Thread Rob Beezer
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:52:24 PM UTC-7, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > There is the issue that norm(v) does not always (often?) live in v for > exact v. Dropping to SR can be really slow, as can dropping to > QQ[sqrt(norm(v))], especially if several vectors are normalized then > used toget

[sage-devel] Re: A short comment about sage-devel

2012-09-19 Thread Nathann Cohen
--- Don't take it personally, but sage's bug reporting system on googlegroups totally sucks in my opinion -- it is the worst open source bug reporting systems i have seen. Tried to sent 2 mails to sage-support (one was strange/counterintuitive behavior, the other was a clear bug). The emails didn

[sage-devel] A short comment about sage-devel

2012-09-19 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello everybody !! I just received this comment by email, and somehow I think that its place is on this forum : -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. To unsubsc

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Normalization of a vector

2012-09-19 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 9/19/12 3:51 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >> >> Even better if we can avoid re-using the name. > > > So you mean permanently deprecating .normalize? Or do you mean leaving > .normalize() and also having .normal_form() and .normalization()? O

[sage-devel] Re: Normalization of a vector

2012-09-19 Thread Jason Grout
On 9/19/12 3:51 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: Even better if we can avoid re-using the name. So you mean permanently deprecating .normalize? Or do you mean leaving .normalize() and also having .normal_form() and .normalization()? Or do you mean something different? This is similar to .kernel

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Normalization of a vector

2012-09-19 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 9/19/12 2:09 PM, Volker Braun wrote: >> >> +1 to: >> >> * rename v.normalization() -> v.normal_form() unless somebody has a >> better name >> * replace v.normalization() with he usual division by L2-norm. >> > > +1, except I think it's v.nor

[sage-devel] Re: Normalization of a vector

2012-09-19 Thread Jason Grout
On 9/19/12 2:09 PM, Volker Braun wrote: +1 to: * rename v.normalization() -> v.normal_form() unless somebody has a better name * replace v.normalization() with he usual division by L2-norm. +1, except I think it's v.normalize(), not v.normalization(). Thanks, Jason -- You received this

[sage-devel] Re: Can't compile Sage-5.3 on OpenSuse 12.2

2012-09-19 Thread Volker Braun
You need to sudo yum install libffi-devel and then restart the computation (make distclean && make) On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:10:54 PM UTC+1, Aleksey Rukhlenko wrote: > > Greetings, dear colleagues. > > I failed to compile Sage-5.3 on OpenSuse 12.2 (gcc 4.7.1) 64 bit. > > Before i

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Normalization of a vector

2012-09-19 Thread Volker Braun
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:50:17 PM UTC+1, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > would we have a period where it gives a warning > I think the deprecation warnings should be a help to the user and not a sacrifice to the gods of backwards compatibility. If the method name changed and is now something

[sage-devel] Can't compile Sage-5.3 on OpenSuse 12.2

2012-09-19 Thread Aleksey Rukhlenko
Greetings, dear colleagues. I failed to compile Sage-5.3 on OpenSuse 12.2 (gcc 4.7.1) 64 bit. Before installation I entered: ./sage -i patch ./sage -i openssl Part of installation log with errror: ;;; gcc -I. -I/home/aleksey/temp/sage-5.3/spkg/build/ecl-11.1.2.cvs2020.p1/src/build/ -I/h

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Normalization of a vector

2012-09-19 Thread Robert Bradshaw
+1, though it's difficult to change the meaning of an existing function (would we have a period where it gives a warning?). On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Volker Braun wrote: > +1 to: > > * rename v.normalization() -> v.normal_form() unless somebody has a better > name > * replace v.normalizat

[sage-devel] Re: Normalization of a vector

2012-09-19 Thread kcrisman
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:09:34 PM UTC-4, Volker Braun wrote: > > +1 to: > > * rename v.normalization() -> v.normal_form() unless somebody has a better > name > * replace v.normalization() with he usual division by L2-norm. > And perhaps have a warning to be printed for the next 12 mon

[sage-devel] Re: Normalization of a vector

2012-09-19 Thread Volker Braun
+1 to: * rename v.normalization() -> v.normal_form() unless somebody has a better name * replace v.normalization() with he usual division by L2-norm. You can't deprecate the change gradually, but sometimes things have to change to improve. On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:55:24 PM UTC+1, C

[sage-devel] Normalization of a vector

2012-09-19 Thread Chris
It was pointed out to me that vector normalization in Sage is not doing what most people would think it should do. Rather than divide by the norm of the vector, right now the implementation is to divide the vector by the first non-zero part. This was pointed out to me by someone who teaches unde

Re: [sage-devel] eval in 5.3 does not recognize variables and functions

2012-09-19 Thread François Boulier
Hello Martin, First of all, thank you very much for answering. I solved my problem, inspecting the C codes generated by two versions of Sage, when calling 'eval'. It is now sufficient (and seemingly necessary), to pass the dictionary returned by the 'globals ()' function to eval, in compiled func

[sage-devel] can't recover user password

2012-09-19 Thread mmarco
I have set up a sage server with several users. The "forgot password" option worked all right, but after upgrading to sage 5.2, it doesn't work anymore. When i click on "forgot password" and enter a username, i get the message "username is invalid". But the username is accepted to login. Any clue

[sage-devel] Report building SAGE-5.3 on CentOS-6.3

2012-09-19 Thread fero
Hi all, I report my experience on installing sage-5.3 on CentOS-6.3: # Problem #1: Missing some libraries # Solution yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' yum install openssl-devel # Problem 2: error on compiling GMP-ECM # Solution export LDFLAGS="-lm" before issuing make # Inspiration: https://