[sage-devel] Re: inner product of complex vectors

2012-09-12 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:30:12 PM UTC-7, jason wrote: > > On 9/12/12 7:47 PM, Rob Beezer wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:04:54 AM UTC-7, jason wrote: > > > > I'm curious: is there a good reason why the product of two complex > > vectors does not conj

[sage-devel] Re: inner product of complex vectors

2012-09-12 Thread Jason Grout
On 9/12/12 7:47 PM, Rob Beezer wrote: On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:04:54 AM UTC-7, jason wrote: I'm curious: is there a good reason why the product of two complex vectors does not conjugate the first vector (which would yield the standard inner product for complex vectors).

[sage-devel] Re: inner product of complex vectors

2012-09-12 Thread Rob Beezer
On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:04:54 AM UTC-7, jason wrote: > > I'm curious: is there a good reason why the product of two complex > vectors does not conjugate the first vector (which would yield the > standard inner product for complex vectors). > > I think because I lost the argument th

[sage-devel] Re: inner product of complex vectors

2012-09-12 Thread Jason Grout
On 9/12/12 5:09 PM, Benjamin Jones wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Jason Grout wrote: Fair enough. That's convincing to me. I wish there was a nice notation in Sage for v.inner_product(w) that wasn't so cumbersome and wordy, then! Thanks, Jason I have wished for the same thing

[sage-devel] Re: inner product of complex vectors

2012-09-12 Thread Jason Grout
On 9/12/12 12:23 PM, William Stein wrote: There is a completely different method called "inner_product": sage: v.inner_product(v) Then maybe this is a bug? sage: v=vector(CDF,[2+I,5]) sage: v.inner_product(v) 28.0 + 4.0*I sage: v.column().H*v.column() [30.0] Thanks, Jason -- You recei

Re: [sage-devel] Re: inner product of complex vectors

2012-09-12 Thread Benjamin Jones
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > > Fair enough. That's convincing to me. I wish there was a nice notation in > Sage for v.inner_product(w) that wasn't so cumbersome and wordy, then! > > > Thanks, > > Jason > I have wished for the same thing on occasion. One idea would be to

[sage-devel] Re: linestyles in matplotlib.pyplot.plot

2012-09-12 Thread Jason Grout
On 9/12/12 2:11 PM, Goutam Paul wrote: It seems that there are only five line-styles: "-" (solid) – default "--" (dashed) "-." (dash dot) ":" (dotted) "None" or " " or "" (nothing) What if I want to have more linestyles? Say, ++, **, xx, ~~, etc. Is it possible to have user-defined linestyles?

[sage-devel] Re: Gmail and Sage's Trac e-mails

2012-09-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:51:22 PM UTC+2, P Purkayastha wrote: > > On 09/12/2012 11:12 PM, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > This left too soon, here follows a corrected version: > > > > For some time, Sage's Trac e-mails I tend to play hide'n'seek in my > > Gmail account, meaning I can s

Re: [sage-devel] Re: linestyles in matplotlib.pyplot.plot

2012-09-12 Thread Goutam Paul
I want to know the syntax for user-defined linestyles, like ++, **, etc. I tried with the marker option - but it did not work with matplotlib.pyplot.ploy On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:14 PM, kcrisman wrote: > > > On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:11:37 PM UTC-4, Goutam Paul wrote: >> >> It seems th

[sage-devel] Fix odlyzko database doctests (#13454) needs review

2012-09-12 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
I make a trivial patch to fix two optional doctests in odlyzko.py, please review: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/13454 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [sage-devel] Re: CTRL-C crashes the notebook in 5.3

2012-09-12 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi This problem seems to persist in sage 5.3 2012-09-12 22:05:32+0200 [-] twistd 12.1.0 (/usr/lib/sagemath/local/bin/python 2.7.3) starting up. 2012-09-12 22:05:32+0200 [-] reactor class: twisted.internet.epollreactor.EPollReactor. 2012-09-12 22:05:32+0200 [-] QuietSite starting on 8080 2012-09-1

[sage-devel] Re: linestyles in matplotlib.pyplot.plot

2012-09-12 Thread kcrisman
On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:11:37 PM UTC-4, Goutam Paul wrote: > > It seems that there are only five line-styles: > > "-" (solid) – default > "--" (dashed) > "-." (dash dot) > ":" (dotted) > "None" or " " or "" (nothing) > > What if I want to have more linestyles? Say, ++, **, xx, ~~

[sage-devel] linestyles in matplotlib.pyplot.plot

2012-09-12 Thread Goutam Paul
It seems that there are only five line-styles: "-" (solid) – default "--" (dashed) "-." (dash dot) ":" (dotted) "None" or " " or "" (nothing) What if I want to have more linestyles? Say, ++, **, xx, ~~, etc. Is it possible to have user-defined linestyles? How? -- You received this message becau

[sage-devel] Re: inner product of complex vectors

2012-09-12 Thread Jason Grout
On 9/12/12 12:23 PM, William Stein wrote: To me (who prob. implemented this) the asterisk in v*v means "dot product". If you look at the code, you'll see it starts: if have_same_parent(left, right): return (left)._dot_product_(right) There is a completely different method called "inner

Re: [sage-devel] This year's bug days

2012-09-12 Thread Dan Drake
On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 at 06:55AM +0200, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > I liked the suggestion of inviting some Sphinx people and have them work > on the scalability issues that we're seeing. A while back I volunteered to organize such a Sage Days event. I need to start thinking more about when we could do

Re: [sage-devel] Re: inner product of complex vectors

2012-09-12 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 9/12/12 12:11 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, 13 September 2012 01:04:54 UTC+8, jason wrote: >> >> I'm curious: is there a good reason why the product of two complex >> vectors does not conjugate the first vector

[sage-devel] Re: inner product of complex vectors

2012-09-12 Thread kcrisman
On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:18:32 PM UTC-4, jason wrote: > > On 9/12/12 12:11 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > > > On Thursday, 13 September 2012 01:04:54 UTC+8, jason wrote: > > > > I'm curious: is there a good reason why the product of two complex > > vectors does not conj

[sage-devel] Re: inner product of complex vectors

2012-09-12 Thread Volker Braun
I prefer this: Hermitian: \bar{v} * w Bilinear: v * w over Hermitian: v * w Bilinear: ??? though tastes are different ;-) On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:18:32 PM UTC+1, jason wrote: > > On 9/12/12 12:11 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > > > On Thursday, 13 September 2012 01:0

[sage-devel] Re: inner product of complex vectors

2012-09-12 Thread Jason Grout
On 9/12/12 12:11 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Thursday, 13 September 2012 01:04:54 UTC+8, jason wrote: I'm curious: is there a good reason why the product of two complex vectors does not conjugate the first vector (which would yield the standard inner product for complex vectors).

[sage-devel] Re: inner product of complex vectors

2012-09-12 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thursday, 13 September 2012 01:04:54 UTC+8, jason wrote: > > I'm curious: is there a good reason why the product of two complex > vectors does not conjugate the first vector (which would yield the > standard inner product for complex vectors). > > Note: > > sage: v=vector(CDF,[2+I,5]) > s

[sage-devel] Re: inner product of complex vectors

2012-09-12 Thread Jason Grout
On 9/12/12 12:04 PM, Jason Grout wrote: I'm curious: is there a good reason why the product of two complex vectors does not conjugate the first vector (which would yield the standard inner product for complex vectors). Note: sage: v=vector(CDF,[2+I,5]) sage: v (2.0 + 1.0*I, 5.0) sage: v*v 28.0

[sage-devel] inner product of complex vectors

2012-09-12 Thread Jason Grout
I'm curious: is there a good reason why the product of two complex vectors does not conjugate the first vector (which would yield the standard inner product for complex vectors). Note: sage: v=vector(CDF,[2+I,5]) sage: v (2.0 + 1.0*I, 5.0) sage: v*v 28.0 + 4.0*I sage: v.column().H*v.column() [

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gmail and Sage's Trac e-mails

2012-09-12 Thread Andrea Lazzarotto
2012/9/12 P Purkayastha > Yes. I experience this very frequently in my mobile (android) client. I noticed the same problem but only with a Disqus conversation which in the past I used to filter (now I don't filter it anymore). Since that conversation was very annoying, in my case the bug is a g

[sage-devel] Re: Gmail and Sage's Trac e-mails

2012-09-12 Thread P Purkayastha
On 09/12/2012 11:12 PM, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: This left too soon, here follows a corrected version: For some time, Sage's Trac e-mails I tend to play hide'n'seek in my Gmail account, meaning I can see a new mail arrived by the (1) next to Inbox, but the mail is not visible in the inbox if the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gmail and Sage's Trac e-mails

2012-09-12 Thread John Cremona
Is it possible that th messages are getting muted? It regularly happens to me that I press the mute shortcut by mistake and the message disappears from the inbox. Which sometimes takes a long time to find and recover. John On 12 September 2012 16:13, Andrea Lazzarotto wrote: > From the web int

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gmail and Sage's Trac e-mails

2012-09-12 Thread Andrea Lazzarotto
>From the web interface or the mobile client? Andrea Lazzarotto (inviato da Android) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[sage-devel] Re: Gmail and Sage's Trac e-mails

2012-09-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
This left too soon, here follows a corrected version: For some time, Sage's Trac e-mails I tend to play hide'n'seek in my Gmail account, meaning I can see a new mail arrived by the (1) next to Inbox, but the mail is not visible in the inbox if they originate from tickets which already sent e-

[sage-devel] Gmail and Sage's Trac e-mails

2012-09-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
For some time, Sage's Trac e-mails from tickets I tend to play hide'n'seek in my Gmail account, meaning I can see a new mail arrived by the (1) next to Inbox, but the mail is not visible in the inbox... If I look into the hidden "All messages" fodler, I can see it, but that's quite annoying. D

[sage-devel] Re: Mirrors

2012-09-12 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:47:46 AM UTC+2, Jan Groenewald wrote: > > and I think perhaps "University of Cape Town" is still syncing their > mirror. > they are stuck at 4.8. you can see this on the status page: http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/sagemath/www2-dev/mirror_manager.out I

Re: [sage-devel] Re: jmol/sage-5.4beta0/FreeBSD problem

2012-09-12 Thread Andrea Lazzarotto
2012/9/12 Stephen Montgomery-Smith > > >> (Is it OK to top post in this mailing list?) >> >> >> You'll find a variety of opinions. >> > > On the geeky mailing lists I frequent, top posting brings first and fierce > wrath. > When I use the mobile Gmail client I try to always remove the previo

Re: [sage-devel] Another paper acknowledging Sage

2012-09-12 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Anthony, On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Anthony David wrote: > "Parameter-free model discrimination criterion based on steady-state > coplanarity" Harrington et al. 2012 PNAS 109 (37) > > http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/09/04/1117073109.abstract Thanks for the pointer. This is now

Re: [sage-devel] Mirrors

2012-09-12 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Jan, On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Jan Groenewald wrote: > Is it possible to add the text "Stellenbosch University", "Tertiary Education > Network", Done. See the updated page: http://www.sagemath.org/mirrors.html -- Regards, Minh Van Nguyen http://bit.ly/mvngu -- You received this m

[sage-devel] Re: jmol/sage-5.4beta0/FreeBSD problem

2012-09-12 Thread Simon King
I don't! Oops, that was a top post - how could I... On 2012-09-12, Jason Grout wrote: > On 9/12/12 8:15 AM, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: >> However every academic I know top posts uniformly. > > Not me! :) > > Jason > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr

[sage-devel] Re: jmol/sage-5.4beta0/FreeBSD problem

2012-09-12 Thread Jason Grout
On 9/12/12 8:15 AM, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: However every academic I know top posts uniformly. Not me! :) Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. To unsub

Re: [sage-devel] Re: jmol/sage-5.4beta0/FreeBSD problem

2012-09-12 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
I am "top-posting" agnostic. So when I reply to a top poster, I top post. When replying to a bottom poster I bottom post. But On 09/12/12 07:21, kcrisman wrote: Great! On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:39:21 AM UTC-4, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: Yes, that works as well. He

[sage-devel] Re: Sage online class? (Google course builder)

2012-09-12 Thread Volker Braun
There is no hosted demo as far as I can tell, but the code contains a sample app and I understand that http://www.powersearchingwithgoogle.com is based on course builder. On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:52:53 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: > > The website is just a Google code site for now. Were

[sage-devel] Re: Sage online class? (Google course builder)

2012-09-12 Thread kcrisman
On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:33:18 AM UTC-4, Volker Braun wrote: > > Google just released course builder, a python+GAE framework to develop > online classes. Presumably various people on this list gave a Sage > introductory course at one point. Maybe it would be a good idea to develop >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-mode 0.8 now ready

2012-09-12 Thread Ivan Andrus
I finally tagged and released sage-mode 0.8 and marked the trac ticket #13182 for review. I thought I had done this earlier, so please review it if you use sage-mode. I also added one tiny feature—support for sagetex in org-mode exporting to pdf, so please reinstall the spkg before reviewing.

[sage-devel] Sage online class? (Google course builder)

2012-09-12 Thread Volker Braun
Google just released course builder, a python+GAE framework to develop online classes. Presumably various people on this list gave a Sage introductory course at one point. Maybe it would be a good idea to develop that into a online course? The technology to host it doesn't really matter, though

Re: [sage-devel] Re: jmol/sage-5.4beta0/FreeBSD problem

2012-09-12 Thread kcrisman
Great! On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:39:21 AM UTC-4, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > Yes, that works as well. > > Here is the middle. > (Is it OK to top post in this mailing list?) > You'll find a variety of opinions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to th

[sage-devel] Another paper acknowledging Sage

2012-09-12 Thread Anthony David
"Parameter-free model discrimination criterion based on steady-state coplanarity" Harrington et al. 2012 PNAS 109 (37) http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/09/04/1117073109.abstract There is a link in the paper to the public worksheet, which is sadly disabled due to the recent hacks. http://w

[sage-devel] Re: Invariant theory

2012-09-12 Thread Volker Braun
This is now http://trac.sagemath.org/13451 (needs review) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googl

Re: [sage-devel] Re: jmol/sage-5.4beta0/FreeBSD problem

2012-09-12 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
Yes, that works as well. (Is it OK to top post in this mailing list?) On 09/12/2012 04:26 AM, Volker Braun wrote: Or the third and most portable way: #!/usr/bin/env bash On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:22:32 AM UTC+1, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: Unfortunately in FreeBSD, this has

[sage-devel] Re: jmol/sage-5.4beta0/FreeBSD problem

2012-09-12 Thread Volker Braun
Or the third and most portable way: #!/usr/bin/env bash On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:22:32 AM UTC+1, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > Unfortunately in FreeBSD, this has to be one of: > > #!/usr/local/bin/bash > or > #!/bin/sh > > -- You received this message because you are subscr

Re: [sage-devel] eval in 5.3 does not recognize variables and functions

2012-09-12 Thread Martin Albrecht
Try this: sage: P. = QQ[] sage: s = "2*a*b + c" sage: eval(s) 2*a*b + c sage: del a sage: del b sage: del c sage: eval(s) --- NameError Traceback (most recent call last) /home/malb/ in

[sage-devel] eval in 5.3 does not recognize variables and functions

2012-09-12 Thread François Boulier
Hi, I am posting again, for 5.3, the message I posted for 5.2 I am developing a sage package which relies on a C library. The C library returns expressions (polynomials) as strings. I am looking for a simple way to convert these strings as Sage objects. So far, I have been using expressions such