Re: [sage-devel] a modest proposal: spooning

2012-03-31 Thread William Stein
On Sunday, April 1, 2012, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi folks, > > It is a fact universally acknowledged that an open source developer > with an idea is in need of a way to effectively implement the idea. > Distributed version control systems such as Mercurial, Git, etc. form > the early stage in the ev

[sage-devel] Re: a modest proposal: spooning

2012-03-31 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2012-04-01, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi folks, > > It is a fact universally acknowledged that an open source developer > with an idea is in need of a way to effectively implement the idea. > Distributed version control systems such as Mercurial, Git, etc. form > the early stage in the evolution of

[sage-devel] a modest proposal: spooning

2012-03-31 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, It is a fact universally acknowledged that an open source developer with an idea is in need of a way to effectively implement the idea. Distributed version control systems such as Mercurial, Git, etc. form the early stage in the evolution of processes of software development. The major

[sage-devel] Re: D[] notation input for ODEs

2012-03-31 Thread Nils Bruin
On Mar 31, 5:14 pm, "john.hoebing" wrote: > sage: a=diff(f,x,x)+diff(f,x)/x > sage: str(a) > 'D[0](f)(x, y)/x + D[0, 0](f)(x, y)' If I understand correctly, you would like to be able to put the above string into sage and get the expression back? That is of course a very reasonable goal. The class

[sage-devel] D[] notation input for ODEs

2012-03-31 Thread john.hoebing
After a day spent trying to implement a workaround for a special case of this issue: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6480 I thought it would be a good time to review the status of some of the earlier issues with how we represent ordinary (partial) derivatives. Most relevant is this old

[sage-devel] Re: Physical constants

2012-03-31 Thread Eviatar
Now that I look through http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Constants/RevModPhys_80_000633acc.pdf, I've decided not to implement uncertainty (except as an attribute of the constant object), since taking into account the correlation coefficient between any two constants is more difficult than I thought

Re: [sage-devel] Re: MathICS: A free, light-weight (online) alternative to Mathematica with support for Sage

2012-03-31 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 9:35 PM, leif wrote: > On 31 Mrz., 22:13, Volker Braun wrote: >> On Saturday, March 31, 2012 7:11:23 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: >> >> > therefore lack the “structural beauty” of the Mathematica® language. >> >> Well-placed irony quotation marks! > > :-) > > "The core of Mat

[sage-devel] Fix detecting of linker flags in R (#12787) needs review

2012-03-31 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
At #12787, I have a fix for the R spkg which uses -### instead of -v to detect the linker options used by gcc/gfortran. Using -### is recommended by the GCC manual to do this. This fix allows building a 32-bit version of R on 64-bit operating systems. More information can be found on the upstrea

[sage-devel] Re: MathICS: A free, light-weight (online) alternative to Mathematica with support for Sage

2012-03-31 Thread leif
On 31 Mrz., 22:13, Volker Braun wrote: > On Saturday, March 31, 2012 7:11:23 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: > > > therefore lack the “structural beauty” of the Mathematica® language. > > Well-placed irony quotation marks! :-) "The core of Mathics is and shall remain independent of Sage, as it adds a

[sage-devel] Re: MathICS: A free, light-weight (online) alternative to Mathematica with support for Sage

2012-03-31 Thread Volker Braun
On Saturday, March 31, 2012 7:11:23 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: > > therefore lack the “structural beauty” of the Mathematica® language. Well-placed irony quotation marks! -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sa

[sage-devel] Re: MathICS: A free, light-weight (online) alternative to Mathematica with support for Sage

2012-03-31 Thread kcrisman
Granted that it seems to use a lot of Sympy and has a much more Mma- like syntax, I can see a definite niche for this. The server currently works fine. Why it isn't called something that makes its connection with Sympy clearer? I see a lot about Sage, but not too much about Sympy or mpmath. May

[sage-devel] Re: upgrade of networx spkg (to get Bellman-Ford algorithm)

2012-03-31 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2012-03-31, Daniel Krenn wrote: > At the moment networkx-1.2.p2.spkg is included in Sage. Networkx 1.2 is > now over 20 month old and networkx 1.6 is available. Does anyone plan > upgrading this? > > Background: I wanted to implement Bellman-Ford algorithm (finding > (shortest) paths in weighte

[sage-devel] Re: MathICS: A free, light-weight (online) alternative to Mathematica with support for Sage

2012-03-31 Thread leif
On 31 Mrz., 18:44, leif wrote: > On 31 Mrz., 18:18, Daniel Krenn wrote: > > > Am 2012-03-31 18:04, schrieb Daniel Krenn: > > > > Am 2012-03-31 17:41, schrieb John Cremona: > > >> On 31 March 2012 16:36, Jason Grout wrote: > > >>>http://www.mathics.org/ > > >>> [...] > > >>> Does anyone know thes

[sage-devel] Re: upgrade of networkx spkg (to get Bellman-Ford algorithm)

2012-03-31 Thread Daniel Krenn
On 31 Mrz., 19:05, Daniel Krenn wrote: > At the moment networkx-1.2.p2.spkg is included in Sage. Networkx 1.2 is > now over 20 month old and networkx 1.6 is available. Does anyone plan > upgrading this? > > Background: I wanted to implement Bellman-Ford algorithm (finding > (shortest) paths in wei

[sage-devel] MathICS: A free, light-weight (online) alternative to Mathematica with support for Sage

2012-03-31 Thread Maarten Derickx
I at least know that the creator of that project has a sage trac account. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com

[sage-devel] upgrade of networx spkg (to get Bellman-Ford algorithm)

2012-03-31 Thread Daniel Krenn
At the moment networkx-1.2.p2.spkg is included in Sage. Networkx 1.2 is now over 20 month old and networkx 1.6 is available. Does anyone plan upgrading this? Background: I wanted to implement Bellman-Ford algorithm (finding (shortest) paths in weighted graphs which can have negative weights). Ther

[sage-devel] Re: MathICS: A free, light-weight (online) alternative to Mathematica with support for Sage

2012-03-31 Thread leif
On 31 Mrz., 18:18, Daniel Krenn wrote: > Am 2012-03-31 18:04, schrieb Daniel Krenn: > > > Am 2012-03-31 17:41, schrieb John Cremona: > >> On 31 March 2012 16:36, Jason Grout wrote: > >>>http://www.mathics.org/ > >>> [...] > >>> Does anyone know these people? > >> Perhaps someone should email him

Re: [sage-devel] MathICS: A free, light-weight (online) alternative to Mathematica with support for Sage

2012-03-31 Thread Daniel Krenn
Am 2012-03-31 18:04, schrieb Daniel Krenn: > Am 2012-03-31 17:41, schrieb John Cremona: >> On 31 March 2012 16:36, Jason Grout wrote: >>> http://www.mathics.org/ >>> [...] >>> Does anyone know these people? >> Perhaps someone should email him and ask why he doesn't just join Sage ? > I know him. H

Re: [sage-devel] MathICS: A free, light-weight (online) alternative to Mathematica with support for Sage

2012-03-31 Thread Daniel Krenn
Am 2012-03-31 17:41, schrieb John Cremona: > On 31 March 2012 16:36, Jason Grout wrote: >> I just ran across this project, which provides an online CAS with >> Mathematica syntax, but says they use sympy and Sage as backends: >> >> http://www.mathics.org/ >> >> Try the demo here: >> >> http://www.

Re: [sage-devel] MathICS: A free, light-weight (online) alternative to Mathematica with support for Sage

2012-03-31 Thread John Cremona
On 31 March 2012 16:36, Jason Grout wrote: > I just ran across this project, which provides an online CAS with > Mathematica syntax, but says they use sympy and Sage as backends: > > http://www.mathics.org/ > > Try the demo here: > > http://www.mathics.net/ (click on the "demo" down at the bottom

[sage-devel] MathICS: A free, light-weight (online) alternative to Mathematica with support for Sage

2012-03-31 Thread Jason Grout
I just ran across this project, which provides an online CAS with Mathematica syntax, but says they use sympy and Sage as backends: http://www.mathics.org/ Try the demo here: http://www.mathics.net/ (click on the "demo" down at the bottom to see some examples) Does anyone know these people?

[sage-devel] Re: Physical constants

2012-03-31 Thread Eviatar
Yes, I know. But it's not implemented as Sage objects. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel U

[sage-devel] Re: More bugs in Laurent polynomials?

2012-03-31 Thread Mark Shimozono
Simon, Many thanks for your patient answers. > > However if all coercion maps involved are injective then > > can't I expect == to be preserved? > > Why do you think that all coercions are injective? The coercion from ZZ > to GF(2) is certainly not injective. I meant not that all coercions were

[sage-devel] Re: sagecell spkg

2012-03-31 Thread Jason Grout
On 3/31/12 8:31 AM, Simon King wrote: Hi! On 2012-03-31, Jason Grout wrote: On 3/31/12 5:05 AM, William Stein wrote: The thread started with "For anyone interested in working with the sage cell server, we've made an experimental spkg ". I think nobody is talking about standard packages inclu

[sage-devel] Re: sagecell spkg

2012-03-31 Thread Simon King
Hi! On 2012-03-31, Jason Grout wrote: > On 3/31/12 5:05 AM, William Stein wrote: > >> The thread started with "For anyone interested in working with the >> sage cell server, we've made an experimental spkg ". >> I think nobody is talking about standard packages included in Sage here. > > That's r

[sage-devel] Re: sagecell spkg

2012-03-31 Thread Jason Grout
On 3/31/12 5:05 AM, William Stein wrote: The thread started with "For anyone interested in working with the sage cell server, we've made an experimental spkg ". I think nobody is talking about standard packages included in Sage here. That's right. The motivation for this spkg is two students

[sage-devel] Re: Physical constants

2012-03-31 Thread Jonathan
Scroll back in this discussion. The math/arithmetic problems, other than getting good symbolic expression, have been solved in the "uncertainties" package ( http://pypi.python.org/pypi/uncertainties/) you mentioned before. Jonathan On Friday, March 30, 2012 7:11:20 PM UTC-5, Eviatar wrote: > >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sagecell spkg

2012-03-31 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Simon King wrote: > Hi! > > On 30 Mrz., 07:40, Jason Grout wrote: >> On 3/30/12 12:28 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> > is there any real reason to include MathJax? >> > MathJax works reasonably well when it pulls >> > everything needed from the web. >> > I would ra

[sage-devel] Re: sagecell spkg

2012-03-31 Thread Simon King
Hi! On 30 Mrz., 07:40, Jason Grout wrote: > On 3/30/12 12:28 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > is there any real reason to include MathJax? > > MathJax works reasonably well when it pulls > > everything needed from the web. > > I would rather see it as an optional package. > > Our purpose is to make

[sage-devel] Re: More bugs in Laurent polynomials?

2012-03-31 Thread Simon King
Hi! On 31 Mrz., 09:37, Simon King wrote: >  * I suggest to override the fraction_field() method for polynomial rings. No, sorry, that was stupid (I had been in a hurry and couldn't think properly). Of course the Laurent polynomial ring is not isomorphic to the fraction field of a polynomial ring

[sage-devel] Re: More bugs in Laurent polynomials?

2012-03-31 Thread Simon King
Hi Mark, On 2012-03-31, Mark Shimozono wrote: > However if all coercion maps involved are injective then > can't I expect == to be preserved? Why do you think that all coercions are injective? The coercion from ZZ to GF(2) is certainly not injective. Generally, it is required that coercions are