Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-04 Thread daly
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 07:32 +0200, Julien Puydt wrote: > Le 05/09/2011 02:41, leif a écrit : > > One shouldn't upgrade packages just for the sake of higher version > > numbers in Sage though, and there are packages where upgrading is > > indeed non-trivial, because of functional changes in upstream

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-04 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 05/09/2011 02:41, leif a écrit : One shouldn't upgrade packages just for the sake of higher version numbers in Sage though, and there are packages where upgrading is indeed non-trivial, because of functional changes in upstream, or a lot of changes made by Sage to its current version. I can'

[sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-04 Thread leif
On 4 Sep., 21:52, "Georg S. Weber" wrote: > nice post. Let's look at two absolute core components of Sage, the > versions of which shipped with the current Sage-4.7.1 release are > outdated: MPIR and Python. > > Regarding MPIR, the relations with upsteam are cordial, but > nevertheless Sage-4.7.1

[sage-devel] Re: Fast substitution symbolic matrices/vectors for numeric intensive task?

2011-09-04 Thread rjf
Perhaps you could be more specific on what f90 tools in Maxima you could use. (Converting to python/ cython may be educational etc, but maybe not so likely to pay off soon.) It is also possible to generate functions in Maxima itself that are compiled to machine language. If you declare variables t

[sage-devel] Re: Fast substitution symbolic matrices/vectors for numeric intensive task?

2011-09-04 Thread Maarten Derickx
Hej Guilherme, Here at http://www.sagenb.org/home/pub/3117/ there is a modified version of your worksheet wich uses fast_callable to make your example way faster. It is not as fast as your fortran example, but as the timings at the bottom show this in not very reasonable to expect in pure pytho

[sage-devel] Coercion, __mul__, and infinite recursion

2011-09-04 Thread Volker Braun
I'm trying to implement actions for a custom class and I'm tripping over this apparently old bug http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8928. Example from the ticket: sage: class MyRing2(CombinatorialFreeModule): ... def __init__(self): ... R = QQ ... category = (Mod

[sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-04 Thread Georg S. Weber
On 4 Sep., 08:47, daly wrote: > The Cost of Going it Alone by Dave > Nearyhttp://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/09/01/the-cost-of-going-it-alone/ Yeah, nice post. Let's look at two absolute core components of Sage, the versions of which shipped with the current Sage-4.7.1 release are outdated: MP

[sage-devel] testlong 4.7.1 tour_algebra

2011-09-04 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On Ubuntu 11.04 natty and an Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6670 @ 2.20GHz (HP 620) I get an error in make testlong: sage -t -long -force_lib "devel/sage/doc/en/tutorial/tour_algebra.rst" ** File "/usr/local/src/sage-4.7.1/

Re: [sage-devel] Upstream projects

2011-09-04 Thread William Stein
On Sunday, September 4, 2011, Maarten Derickx wrote: > Nice post. Altough it's really written from a commercial point of view, so not everything is directly applicable to sage. Also, we very rarely (never?) make significant changes directly to upstream code - just tiny bigfixes on occasion. It se

[sage-devel] Fast substitution symbolic matrices/vectors for numeric intensive task?

2011-09-04 Thread Guilherme
Hello, I am using Sage for a while, but I am still a newbie. I am an engineer studying nonlinear dynamical systems. I do the modeling by means of symbolic manipulation (Galerkin approximation) but I need a numerical solver to time integrate the model. On another tread I mentioned a spkg I made fo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-04 Thread Francois Bissey
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 03:09:31 Maarten Derickx wrote: > Nice post. Altough it's really written from a commercial point of view, so > not everything is directly applicable to sage. > > Also I clearly feel how much work it takes to get, "a small fix" merged > upstream is very dependent on the particul

[sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-04 Thread Maarten Derickx
Nice post. Altough it's really written from a commercial point of view, so not everything is directly applicable to sage. Also I clearly feel how much work it takes to get, "a small fix" merged upstream is very dependent on the particular upstream in question. In his article he sais it's such a