Re: [sage-devel] Re: lcalc code quality

2011-04-02 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Apr 2, 2011, at 06:20 , Bill Hart wrote: > > > On Mar 31, 8:41 pm, Jason Grout wrote: >> On 3/31/11 2:09 PM, kcrisman wrote: > >> +1 to everything you said. Also, I'd like to point out that since many >> upstream developers lurk on this and other Sage lists, our "colloquial" >> conversati

[sage-devel] Unexpected failure on a test with znpoly

2011-04-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I've built Sage tons of time on OpenSolaris as a 32-bit application, and rarely had any problems for the last 6 months or so. In fact, I've built sage-4.7.alpha3 several times without issue. znpoly is a slightly unusual .spkg in Sage, in that it runs a minimal test suite irrespective of the se

Re: [sage-devel] Proposal to remove the spkg/base repository

2011-04-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 04/ 3/11 05:39 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Now there is a repository for the root of Sage, so files like README.txt are now under revision control drkirkby@hawk:~/sage-4.7.alpha3$ hg status drkirkby@hawk:~/sage-4.7.alpha3$ John Palmieri has suggested that the spkg/base repository be removed.

[sage-devel] Proposal to remove the spkg/base repository

2011-04-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Now there is a repository for the root of Sage, so files like README.txt are now under revision control drkirkby@hawk:~/sage-4.7.alpha3$ hg status drkirkby@hawk:~/sage-4.7.alpha3$ John Palmieri has suggested that the spkg/base repository be removed. This seems a sensible idea to me. Just merge

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Doctest failure with sage/plot/plot3d/parametric_surface.pyx on OpenSolaris 64-bit

2011-04-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 04/ 2/11 11:47 PM, Jason Grout wrote: On 4/2/11 4:33 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: With a slightly hacked version of 4.7.alpha3, I get the following doctest failures: ** File "/export/home/drkirkby/try/sage-4.7.alpha2/devel/sa

[sage-devel] Re: Specify patches and dependencies in description

2011-04-02 Thread Keshav Kini
Yup, this is a great idea. You were working on this during sage days 29, right? Any progress? -Keshav On Mar 24, 3:14 am, koffie wrote: > Since we have a highly configurable bug tracking system, why not add > some custom fields? > > http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTicketsCustomFields > > On Ma

[sage-devel] Re: Patch submitting procedures

2011-04-02 Thread Keshav Kini
Indeed. Mercurial's workflow is not really supposed to be carried out by sending patches to people (the encouraged behavior is to use `hg pull` from other people's repositories), so the default patch / export format only includes a subset of the total information so that it can be backwards compati

[sage-devel] Re: Doctest failure with sage/plot/plot3d/parametric_surface.pyx on OpenSolaris 64-bit

2011-04-02 Thread Jason Grout
On 4/2/11 4:20 PM, Francois Bissey wrote: > With a slightly hacked version of 4.7.alpha3, I get the following doctest > failures: > > ** > File > "/export/home/drkirkby/try/sage-4.7.alpha2/devel/sage/sage/plot/plot3d/para

[sage-devel] Re: Doctest failure with sage/plot/plot3d/parametric_surface.pyx on OpenSolaris 64-bit

2011-04-02 Thread Jason Grout
On 4/2/11 4:33 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: With a slightly hacked version of 4.7.alpha3, I get the following doctest failures: ** File "/export/home/drkirkby/try/sage-4.7.alpha2/devel/sage/sage/plot/plot3d/parametric_surface.pyx

Re: [sage-devel] Doctest failure with sage/plot/plot3d/parametric_surface.pyx on OpenSolaris 64-bit

2011-04-02 Thread David Kirkby
On 2 April 2011 22:20, Francois Bissey wrote: >> With a slightly hacked version of 4.7.alpha3, I get the following doctest >> failures: >> >> ** >> File >> >> "/export/home/drkirkby/try/sage-4.7.alpha2/devel/sage/sage/plot/plot3d/

Re: [sage-devel] Doctest failure with sage/plot/plot3d/parametric_surface.pyx on OpenSolaris 64-bit

2011-04-02 Thread Francois Bissey
> With a slightly hacked version of 4.7.alpha3, I get the following doctest > failures: > > ** > File > "/export/home/drkirkby/try/sage-4.7.alpha2/devel/sage/sage/plot/plot3d/para > metric_surface.pyx", line 180: > sage: s[:2

Re: [sage-devel] Re: lcalc code quality

2011-04-02 Thread Volker Braun
On Saturday, April 2, 2011 1:08:51 PM UTC-4, robertwb wrote: > > I think the key point is that there are several metrics for judging > code. > While there certainly is some artistic quality to what constitutes "beautiful code", surely we can agree that code that relies on implementation details

Re: [sage-devel] Spam tickets on Trac

2011-04-02 Thread David Kirkby
On 1 April 2011 17:07, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:20 PM, kcrisman wrote: >>> See (or don't) #11102 and #11103.  Now they're creating new tickets, >>> not just comments.  Hopefully someone can get rid of them. >> >> They'

Re: [sage-devel] Re: lcalc code quality

2011-04-02 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 8:18 AM, David Kirkby wrote: > On 2 April 2011 14:20, Bill Hart wrote: > >> Please also bear in mind that many "upstream" developers have put >> years of their life into research, development of algorithms and >> coding. Many of them are professional mathematicians, not com

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] sage-4.7.alpha3 released

2011-04-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 04/ 2/11 12:57 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi David, On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Agreed, though that is obvious from the release schedule. But may not be obvious from the standard documentation that one reads. How many and which type of people actually closely fol

Re: [sage-devel] Re: lcalc code quality

2011-04-02 Thread David Kirkby
On 2 April 2011 14:20, Bill Hart wrote: > Please also bear in mind that many "upstream" developers have put > years of their life into research, development of algorithms and > coding. Many of them are professional mathematicians, not computer > scientists or professional programmers. They live a

[sage-devel] M4RIE & 4.7

2011-04-02 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi, since 4.7 is about adding SPKGs I'm wondering if that could motivate someone to finish the review of http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9562 which is about fast linear algebra over small extensions of GF(2). It was agreed ages ago that M4RIE (the new library which implements this

[sage-devel] Re: lcalc code quality

2011-04-02 Thread Bill Hart
On Mar 31, 8:41 pm, Jason Grout wrote: > On 3/31/11 2:09 PM, kcrisman wrote: > +1 to everything you said.  Also, I'd like to point out that since many > upstream developers lurk on this and other Sage lists, our "colloquial" > conversations actually are heard by many upstream developers.  Even

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] sage-4.7.alpha3 released

2011-04-02 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi David, On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > Agreed, though that is obvious from the release schedule. But may not be obvious from the standard documentation that one reads. How many and which type of people actually closely follow the release schedule? > So does this m

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] sage-4.7.alpha3 released

2011-04-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 04/ 2/11 11:06 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi David, On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Is this really necessary? Would it not be better to have just put a start date? Yes. It shows that a project is still active Agreed, though that is obvious from the release schedule.

[sage-devel] Doctest failure with sage/plot/plot3d/parametric_surface.pyx on OpenSolaris 64-bit

2011-04-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
With a slightly hacked version of 4.7.alpha3, I get the following doctest failures: ** File "/export/home/drkirkby/try/sage-4.7.alpha2/devel/sage/sage/plot/plot3d/parametric_surface.pyx", line 180: sage: s[:2] Expected:

Re: [sage-devel] Debugging some cython code / Pynac

2011-04-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 04/ 1/11 11:46 PM, Burcin Erocal wrote: On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 17:20:57 +0100 "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: On 04/ 1/11 12:54 PM, Burcin Erocal wrote: On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 00:37:46 +0100 "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: I've built Sage 64-bit on OpenSolaris but it crashes at startup. I've run gdb and

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Make check fails for sage 4.6.2 build

2011-04-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 04/ 1/11 11:02 PM, jonha...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Dave, That's weird. Now the test seems to pass. I had tried it several times before I wrote, but now it consistently passes. I'm now a little worried about the stability of my system... Any ideas about what can cause these problems (and te