[sage-devel] Re: Sage Days 29

2011-02-22 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:20 PM, William Stein wrote: > If you're interested in coming to Seattle during our spring break > (when campus is pretty empty and the weather is nice), it looks highly > likely I'll be able to run a big Sage Days workshop.   Please send me > an email (wst...@gmail.com) if

[sage-devel] Re: sage -sh doesn't set PATH appropriately on OSX

2011-02-22 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/22/11 5:17 PM, Justin C. Walker wrote: On Feb 22, 2011, at 14:52 , Jason Grout wrote: On 2/22/11 3:10 PM, Justin C. Walker wrote: On Feb 22, 2011, at 11:44 , Jason Grout wrote: I don't see what you see; perhaps one of us has sufficiently strange setup in our startup files to either m

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage -sh doesn't set PATH appropriately on OSX

2011-02-22 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Feb 22, 2011, at 14:52 , Jason Grout wrote: > On 2/22/11 3:10 PM, Justin C. Walker wrote: >> >> On Feb 22, 2011, at 11:44 , Jason Grout wrote: >> >> >> I don't see what you see; perhaps one of us has sufficiently strange setup >> in our startup files to either mask or cause the problems. >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage -sh doesn't set PATH appropriately on OSX

2011-02-22 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Feb 22, 2011, at 13:15 , Jason Grout wrote: > On 2/22/11 3:10 PM, Justin C. Walker wrote: >> >> On Feb 22, 2011, at 11:44 , Jason Grout wrote: [snip] > Can you try the other simpler test? > > bash-3.2$ PATH='.';export PATH > bash-3.2$ /usr/libexec/path_helper -s > PATH="/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage -sh doesn't set PATH appropriately on OSX

2011-02-22 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 02/22/11 10:52 PM, Jason Grout wrote: On 2/22/11 3:10 PM, Justin C. Walker wrote: On Feb 22, 2011, at 11:44 , Jason Grout wrote: I don't see what you see; perhaps one of us has sufficiently strange setup in our startup files to either mask or cause the problems. It might be that I my def

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Wolfram|Alpha appears to understand some Sage inputs

2011-02-22 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 02/22/11 03:49 PM, rjf wrote: A parser for the maxima language is not only easier to write, it is available in source form. It is also based on a well known technique which is also used by Reduce. The real difficulty is to implement a Mathematica language parser, since the language fails to fi

[sage-devel] Re: sage -sh doesn't set PATH appropriately on OSX

2011-02-22 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/22/11 3:10 PM, Justin C. Walker wrote: On Feb 22, 2011, at 11:44 , Jason Grout wrote: I don't see what you see; perhaps one of us has sufficiently strange setup in our startup files to either mask or cause the problems. It might be that I my default shell set to zsh. Could you try cha

[sage-devel] Re: PROPOSAL: build and install spkg documentation

2011-02-22 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/22/11 2:19 PM, Jason Grout wrote: There are lots of times when it would be convenient to have the documentation of various spkgs installed in a local or system Sage installation. For example, it seems that I'm always wishing that I had that at an airport or on an airplane. At one point a lon

[sage-devel] Re: sage -sh doesn't set PATH appropriately on OSX

2011-02-22 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/22/11 3:10 PM, Justin C. Walker wrote: On Feb 22, 2011, at 11:44 , Jason Grout wrote: On OSX, the path_helper command is always executed when starting a new shell. Unfortunately, the path_helper command prepends standard system values to the PATH variable, which means that the Sage-spe

Re: [sage-devel] sage -sh doesn't set PATH appropriately on OSX

2011-02-22 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Feb 22, 2011, at 11:44 , Jason Grout wrote: > On OSX, the path_helper command is always executed when starting a new shell. > Unfortunately, the path_helper command prepends standard system values to > the PATH variable, which means that the Sage-specific values come at the end > of the PA

[sage-devel] Re: PROPOSAL: build and install spkg documentation

2011-02-22 Thread kcrisman
On Feb 22, 3:19 pm, Jason Grout wrote: > There are lots of times when it would be convenient to have the > documentation of various spkgs installed in a local or system Sage > installation.  For example, it seems that I'm always wishing that I had > that at an airport or on an airplane.  At one

[sage-devel] PROPOSAL: build and install spkg documentation

2011-02-22 Thread Jason Grout
There are lots of times when it would be convenient to have the documentation of various spkgs installed in a local or system Sage installation. For example, it seems that I'm always wishing that I had that at an airport or on an airplane. At one point a long time ago, we had an extradocs spk

[sage-devel] sage -sh doesn't set PATH appropriately on OSX

2011-02-22 Thread Jason Grout
On OSX, the path_helper command is always executed when starting a new shell. Unfortunately, the path_helper command prepends standard system values to the PATH variable, which means that the Sage-specific values come at the end of the PATH variable. This causes all sorts of breakage when try

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patchbot and alpha versions

2011-02-22 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: > On Feb 22, 3:08 pm, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Eviatar wrote: >> > Importing in a loop is definitely not a good idea. >> >> Unless the loop is rarely executed... >> >> > I found this great guide about Python

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Python Performance Guide

2011-02-22 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:00 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > > On Feb 22, 3:48 am, Keshav Kini wrote: >> On Feb 22, 3:25 pm, Keshav Kini wrote: >> >> > For example the construction >> >> > "stuff %s stuff" % dictionary >> >> > is deprecated and in fact does not even work in Python 3. >> >> Oops - sorry,

[sage-devel] Re: Wolfram|Alpha appears to understand some Sage inputs

2011-02-22 Thread kcrisman
> While I assume that some people at WRI may be observing the Sage Yes, I can definitely confirm this. > activity, I doubt that they feel Sage breathing down their necks. I agree - so far. But it was amazing how many visitors we had at the JMM booth talking about doing an institutional switch. I

[sage-devel] Re: Wolfram|Alpha appears to understand some Sage inputs

2011-02-22 Thread rjf
A parser for the maxima language is not only easier to write, it is available in source form. It is also based on a well known technique which is also used by Reduce. The real difficulty is to implement a Mathematica language parser, since the language fails to fit the standard expectations for com

[sage-devel] Re: Python Performance Guide

2011-02-22 Thread kcrisman
On Feb 22, 3:48 am, Keshav Kini wrote: > On Feb 22, 3:25 pm, Keshav Kini wrote: > > > For example the construction > > > "stuff %s stuff" % dictionary > > > is deprecated and in fact does not even work in Python 3. > > Oops - sorry, this is wrong. It still works in Python 3.1, but > according t

[sage-devel] Re: The version of Jmol usually shipped with SAGE is likely to break soon in most webkit browsers...

2011-02-22 Thread Jonathan
I built the Jmol .spkg simply so people could test it. What I suggest is that this .spkg be folded into the next sagenb release. I suppose if I am to help after that I will have to figure out how you are maintaining the shared code. I work regularly with SVN and CVS, but have no experience with

[sage-devel] Re: Python Performance Guide

2011-02-22 Thread Keshav Kini
On Feb 22, 3:25 pm, Keshav Kini wrote: > For example the construction > > "stuff %s stuff" % dictionary > > is deprecated and in fact does not even work in Python 3. Oops - sorry, this is wrong. It still works in Python 3.1, but according to http://docs.python.org/release/3.1.2/whatsnew/3.0.html

[sage-devel] Re: Updating the Developer's Walk-Through

2011-02-22 Thread Keshav Kini
Hi Kwankyu, This is exactly what I have just written into the documentation (see trac #10782 ) and posted about on this list a couple of days ago ( http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/b18d052bf057d465 ). Hope that helps! -Keshav On Feb 22, 3:13 pm, Kwankyu Lee wrote

[sage-devel] Re: Patchbot and alpha versions

2011-02-22 Thread Keshav Kini
On Feb 22, 3:08 pm, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Eviatar wrote: > > Importing in a loop is definitely not a good idea. > > Unless the loop is rarely executed... > > > I found this great guide about Python performance, including > > information about importing, lazy im