[sage-devel] Re: cannot exponentiate a Python int by a real number

2011-02-02 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/2/11 9:57 PM, David Roe wrote: But int(2)**(1.5) causes the same bug that Dan observed. I think it's actually a bug and should have a trac ticket. You're right. I've opened http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10736 Jason -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googl

Re: [sage-devel] Re: cannot exponentiate a Python int by a real number

2011-02-02 Thread David Roe
But int(2)**(1.5) causes the same bug that Dan observed. I think it's actually a bug and should have a trac ticket. David On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 22:51, Jason Grout wrote: > int(2)^(1.5) -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send

[sage-devel] Re: cannot exponentiate a Python int by a real number

2011-02-02 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/2/11 9:48 PM, Dan Drake wrote: This is slightly annoying and unexpected: sage: 2^(1.5) 2.82842712474619 sage: int(2)^(1.5) --- TypeError Traceback (most recent ca

[sage-devel] cannot exponentiate a Python int by a real number

2011-02-02 Thread Dan Drake
This is slightly annoying and unexpected: sage: 2^(1.5) 2.82842712474619 sage: int(2)^(1.5) --- TypeError Traceback (most recent call last) /home/drake/research/motz

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, kcrisman wrote: > >> >> A steering committee might be a good idea, we have JSage which >> somewhat fulfills this role. > > ??? > > You don't mean the fantastically outdated > http://www.sagemath.org/jsage/editors.html > ... > > Do you?  Notwithstanding that this is

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread kcrisman
> > A steering committee might be a good idea, we have JSage which > somewhat fulfills this role. ??? You don't mean the fantastically outdated http://www.sagemath.org/jsage/editors.html ... Do you? Notwithstanding that this is a good idea (but one which has seemed to always fizzle before, li

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread Tom Boothby
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 7:33 AM, David Kirkby wrote: > As a matter of interst, how many people do you expect make use of code > to solve Rubiks cube? Do you really think that should have been in the > main Sage library, or would it have been more appropiate to have such > functionality as optional

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 7:33 AM, David Kirkby wrote: > On 2 February 2011 09:55, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby > >>> Sage is something people work on in their spare time, so you can't dictate >>> to people what they do. But if there was a plan, peopl

Re: [sage-devel] Re: build error for sage 4.6.1 on OS X 10.5.8

2011-02-02 Thread Volker Braun
On Wednesday, February 2, 2011 7:52:08 PM UTC, John H Palmieri wrote: > > if [ "$SAGE64" = "yes" ]; then >echo "64 bit build" >CFLAGS="-O2 -g -fPIC -m64 "; export CFLAGS >LDFLAGS="-m64"; export LDFLAGS > fi > Just overwrite CFLAGS/LDFLAGS, no ap/prepending? Nice. if [ "x`uname -sm`" =

Re: [sage-devel] Re: build error for sage 4.6.1 on OS X 10.5.8

2011-02-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:50:36 AM UTC-8, Volker Braun wrote: > > Dave, can you elaborate on what SAGE64 is good for besides adding -m64? > Adding the compiler flag could easily be done in the gcc wrapper: > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10572 > > Sorry if this is slightly O

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Aleksej Saushev wrote: > Robert Bradshaw writes: > >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby >> wrote: >>> >>> and those changes get put into Sage, without any discussion >>> of what's actually needed in Sage, and what should be written as an external >>

[sage-devel] Cygwin port, the lack of "top" and memory usage #9170

2011-02-02 Thread David Kirkby
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9170 has the title "cygwin: get_memory_usage isn't implemented, e.g., because there's no top" Whilst I think measuring memory usage via "top" is not a good idea, a quick Google shows that "top" is available on Cygwin. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread David Kirkby
On 2 February 2011 16:43, Jason Grout wrote: > On 2/2/11 10:33 AM, rjf wrote: >> >> 1. What happens if you don't have a plan? > >> >> 2. Who makes a plan? >> > > You have long experience with other open-source projects.  Have they had > plans?  (I'm really genuinely curious).  Who made it?  How >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread daly
On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 10:43 -0600, Jason Grout wrote: > On 2/2/11 10:33 AM, rjf wrote: > > 1. What happens if you don't have a plan? > > > > 2. Who makes a plan? > > > > You have long experience with other open-source projects. Have they had > plans? (I'm really genuinely curious). Who made

Re: [sage-devel] Re: build error for sage 4.6.1 on OS X 10.5.8

2011-02-02 Thread Volker Braun
On Wednesday, February 2, 2011 3:55:27 PM UTC, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > There is never any point in setting SAGE64=no. [...] ONLY if it is set > to "yes" will anything different happen. That is usually adding the > compiler flag "-m64", though in some cases it's a bit more complex. > Dave, can y

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread Aleksej Saushev
Robert Bradshaw writes: > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby > wrote: >> >> and those changes get put into Sage, without any discussion >> of what's actually needed in Sage, and what should be written as an external >> program. > > I think part of this is due to the historical cont

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/2/11 10:33 AM, rjf wrote: 1. What happens if you don't have a plan? > > 2. Who makes a plan? > You have long experience with other open-source projects. Have they had plans? (I'm really genuinely curious). Who made it? How comprehensive/detailed was it? Was the plan a "success" (i.e

[sage-devel] GSOC 2011

2011-02-02 Thread Harald Schilly
Is there already a google summer of code 2011 thread? If not, here it is. Basic questions: 1. should we try again? 2. who could be a mentor? I think, trying the same as last year with a focus on the notebook doesn't hurt - especially because of the rewrite with new ideas. H -- To post to this

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread rjf
1. What happens if you don't have a plan? 2. Who makes a plan? Answer 1. People choose what to do themselves. For example, making a program that almost no one uses faster, maybe breaking it in some subtle way that is not noticed for a long time. Adding a feature "because it can be added". Ma

Re: [sage-devel] Re: build error for sage 4.6.1 on OS X 10.5.8

2011-02-02 Thread David Kirkby
On 1 February 2011 20:17, jtyard wrote: > Thanks Georg, > > Before I posted my question, I had tried an earlier build with > SAGE64="yes", but (of course) that didn't work and I received the same > error that I posted.  Then I had set SAGE64="no", tried again and got > the same error. There is ne

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread David Kirkby
On 2 February 2011 09:55, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby >> Sage is something people work on in their spare time, so you can't dictate >> to people what they do. But if there was a plan, people could be encouraged >> to work on what is considered importa

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > On 02/ 1/11 08:50 AM, David Roe wrote: > >> I think most people agree that a Windows port is important. > > But there's no plan for Sage, which sets out priorities and reasonable > estimates of time. > >> But it still >> hasn't happened.  M

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Tuesday 01 February 2011, kcrisman wrote: > I respectfully submit that this part of the discussion should move to > sage-flame. +1 -- name: Martin Albrecht _pgp: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x8EF0DC99 _otr: 47F43D1A 5D68C36F 468BAEBA 640E8856 D7951CCF _www: http://martin

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 2/1/11 5:12 PM, kcrisman wrote: >> >> Maybe a few of us should get together and offer a bounty... > > Or write a grant! I don't think funding is the sole (primary?) bottleneck--if we had a (modest) pile of cash, who would we hire? I honestly

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-02 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Emil Widmann wrote: >> > While I use Sage daily on my research I decided that I could not use sage >> on my classes for freshmen students until it works on windows. > > I am curious, why is using the virtual machine image not feasable? We have a virtual machine. Ob

[sage-devel] anthropological analysis of Fedora's online development community

2011-02-02 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, The following blog post contains a distillation of a Master's student's anthropological research on the Fedora online development community: http://www.cyber-anthro.com/beta-an-exploration-of-fedora%E2%80%99s-online-open-source-development-community/ There are numerous points in there