Re: [sage-devel] experience with mongodb

2011-02-01 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:07 PM, William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: >> Hi William and others, >> >> what is your experience of using mongodb for storing (calculated?) >> results about elliptic curves? When googling a bit, I found some >> commits like: >> >>

Re: [sage-devel] experience with mongodb

2011-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > Hi William and others, > > what is your experience of using mongodb for storing (calculated?) > results about elliptic curves? When googling a bit, I found some > commits like: > > http://code.google.com/p/purplesage/source/detail?r=2ebfec0907

[sage-devel] experience with mongodb

2011-02-01 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi William and others, what is your experience of using mongodb for storing (calculated?) results about elliptic curves? When googling a bit, I found some commits like: http://code.google.com/p/purplesage/source/detail?r=2ebfec09070b4a9a549c2a51e8e9dcde9a832925# I am thinking how to best store s

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Eviatar
>Firefox, OpenOffice and FreeBSD are all successful open-source projects, but >have a documented plans with at least projected time scales. If dates are >regularly missed, then one needs to determine if they were unrealistic, and so >allow more time for future plans. IMHO, Sage lacks a real directi

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Eviatar
This is a very interesting idea. I was too thinking about a way to easily implement Sage interacts into webpages. I believe this could be a very useful feature; imagine giving the viewers of your page easy access to the full power of Sage! Not only would it be easy to implement mathematical "widget

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/1/11 5:12 PM, kcrisman wrote: Maybe a few of us should get together and offer a bounty... Or write a grant! Jason -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more opt

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread kcrisman
I respectfully submit that this part of the discussion should move to sage-flame. Incidentally, the title of the thread is very relevant to the Cygwin port. I would say that there are *lots* of people who would like it, but the intersection of that set and those with the relevant (extremely non-m

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread rjf
On Feb 1, 8:22 am, William Stein wrote: >.. > > Some history.. > > >http://www.wikilivres.info/wiki/Twenty_Years_of_Berkeley_Unix:_From_A... > > According to that page you were one of 14 people who co-authored a > grant.. I was the principal investigator for the grant, and wrote the proposal, i

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.6.1 build failure in symmetrica-2.0.p5.spkg

2011-02-01 Thread Paul Leopardi
OK. Your revised spkg builds and install correctly now, as far as I can tell. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google

[sage-devel] ANN: mpmath 0.17 (Python 3 support and more)

2011-02-01 Thread Fredrik Johansson
Hi all, Version 0.17 of mpmath is now available on the project website: http://code.google.com/p/mpmath/ It can also be downloaded from the Python Package Index: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/mpmath/0.17 Mpmath is a pure-Python library for arbitrary-precision floating-point arithmetic that impleme

[sage-devel] Re: build error for sage 4.6.1 on OS X 10.5.8

2011-02-01 Thread jtyard
Dima, It looks like it is getting set pretty early, so I'm just posting here the beginning of the install.log, rather than the whole huge file. But it sounds to me that somehow the problem is that "make clean" leaves too much behind. For instance, it seems to want to start building r right away,

[sage-devel] Re: build error for sage 4.6.1 on OS X 10.5.8

2011-02-01 Thread jtyard
Thanks Georg, Before I posted my question, I had tried an earlier build with SAGE64="yes", but (of course) that didn't work and I received the same error that I posted. Then I had set SAGE64="no", tried again and got the same error. I then ran "make clean" and got the same error. I even reboote

[sage-devel] review ot ticket #10720

2011-02-01 Thread mario
Hi, in ticket #10720 nth_root for power series is added; two bugs in sqrt are pointed out; reviews are appreciated. Thanks Mario -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread daly
On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 08:40 -0800, William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:32 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby > >> * No documented plan > >> * No real documented estimates of time scales > >> * No status reports for the project as a whole. >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:32 AM, William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby >>  * No documented plan >>  * No real documented estimates of time scales >>  * No status reports for the project as a whole. > > If you think a plan as you describe it for overall Sage develop

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > On 02/ 1/11 08:50 AM, David Roe wrote: > Some of the problems seem to be firmly in the hands of people who have > written code in the Sage library, which simply does not work properly on > Cygwin. They should be able to sort that out. ... >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:53 AM, rjf wrote: > William Stein, for example,  says > "His [RJF's] experience is not based on him actually successfully > having led > any nontrivial open source software development projects.  He has no > credentials at all there, as far as I know.   Yet, he is speaking

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread rjf
On Jan 31, 4:26 am, Jason Grout wrote: > On 1/29/11 9:52 AM, rjf wrote: > > > Even assuming that the junk-submitter takes no time at all from > > project management on the "front end", the need to review > > "contributions" > > is certainly a drain.  Realizing, and then explaining to some loser

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Mike Hansen
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > I don't know how hard it is, but I got the impression from William only a > few months back that it did not need a lot of work. But I've come very > suspicious about time estimates from many Sage developers. I don't think it needs lots of

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.6.1 build failure in symmetrica-2.0.p5.spkg

2011-02-01 Thread Volker Braun
Delete any cached symmetrica spkg from $SAGE_ROOT/spkg/optional/symmetrica*.spkg if it exists and then sage -f http://www.stp.dias.ie/~vbraun/Sage/spkg/symmetrica-2.0.p6.spkg -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.6.1 build failure in symmetrica-2.0.p5.spkg

2011-02-01 Thread Paul Leopardi
Hi Volker, On Feb 1, 12:15 pm, Volker Braun wrote: > Upon a closer look at the symmetrica spkg I noticed a lot of other oddities. > Particularly ironic is the fact that the binary that fails to link on your > machine is actually not used. I've updated my spkg > (http://www.stp.dias.ie/~vbraun/Sag

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/1/11 8:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: We should also have status reports. See for example some of the archived FreeBSD status reports. http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2009-04-2009-09.html http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2008-10-2008-12.html http://www.freebsd.org/news/st

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 02/ 1/11 08:50 AM, David Roe wrote: I think most people agree that a Windows port is important. But there's no plan for Sage, which sets out priorities and reasonable estimates of time. But it still hasn't happened. My impression is that the reasons for that are primarily that it's 1)

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/1/11 2:27 AM, luisfe wrote: I would like to introduce someone to Sage, but I'm wasting my time if she needs to learn Linux, Solaris, or buy a Mac first. So I'm suggesting she use Mathematica on Windows. As much as I don't like that idea, I don't feel able to recommend Sage. If there was a W

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Emil Widmann
> > While I use Sage daily on my research I decided that I could not use sage > on my classes for freshmen students until it works on windows. I am curious, why is using the virtual machine image not feasable? On new computers it should run with acceptable speed. In classroom it should be even pos

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread Volker Braun
> While I use Sage daily on my research I decided that I could not use sage on my classes for freshmen students until it works on windows. Showing your students that there is more to computing than the Xbox ecosystem is more important than Sage or undergrad calculus or whatever your freshman cl

Re: [sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread David Roe
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 03:27, luisfe wrote: > On Feb 1, 3:41 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > > On 01/30/11 03:27 PM, Jonathan wrote: > > Put another way, there should be a discussion about what Sage needs, how > urgent > > it is, and a plan drawn up. > > > > I thought porting Sage to Windows via

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-01 Thread luisfe
On Feb 1, 3:41 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > On 01/30/11 03:27 PM, Jonathan wrote: > Put another way, there should be a discussion about what Sage needs, how > urgent > it is, and a plan drawn up. > > I thought porting Sage to Windows via Cygwin was seen as important, as it will > dramaticall