[sage-devel] Decorators degrading documentation

2010-09-15 Thread Rob Beezer
(Say that subject three times fast.) I'm looking at a ticket whose main purpose is to apply the @rename_keyword decorator in lots of places, outside of the plot module, where it was first employed. When I build the HTML version of the reference manual, it would appear these functions are now list

[sage-devel] Re: non-stable .spkgs (alpha, beta, svn/cvs snapshots etc)

2010-09-15 Thread mhampton
+1 to Rob Beezer's comments. I don't have anything to add to them, other than my agreement - very well said. -Marshall Hampton On Sep 15, 8:50 pm, Rob Beezer wrote: > We are all adults here.  Well mostly, excluding some child-prodigy- > developers we have. > > Policy is for people who have no j

[sage-devel] Re: non-stable .spkgs (alpha, beta, svn/cvs snapshots etc)

2010-09-15 Thread Rob Beezer
We are all adults here. Well mostly, excluding some child-prodigy- developers we have. Policy is for people who have no judgment. I just read a ticket where Robert Miller said, "Take it to sage-devel." Burcin took another ticket I was in on to sage-devel. A third ticket got sent back to "needs

Re: [sage-devel] Re: non-stable .spkgs (alpha, beta, svn/cvs snapshots etc)

2010-09-15 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 3:37 AM, David Kirkby wrote: >>> True. But if person A creates the ticket, person B reviews it and the >>> release manager finds it passes, it may end up getting merged. >> >> I see that as someone not doing there job properly if we were to decide that >> a vote is required

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Cliquer - upstream modifications and dubious code

2010-09-15 Thread Nathann Cohen
Dear David, Your post finds me in a very good mood. I just went out for a walk to think about my graphs and found out again that I loved the sight of a deep blue sky, small streets, seagulls and sea more than any other. There can be no better background for a graph problem :-) > You were cc'ed on

Re: [sage-devel] Cliquer - upstream modifications and dubious code

2010-09-15 Thread Tim Daly
This might be of interest on security grounds: http://www.amazon.com/Secure-Coding-Robert-C-Seacord/dp/0321335724 On 9/15/2010 6:46 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On 09/15/10 06:17 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: I'm disheartened that this happened. One should not modify upstream source, but place patche

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Cliquer - upstream modifications and dubious code

2010-09-15 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 09/14/10 01:48 PM, Nathann Cohen wrote: David, I tried 10 times to give an answer to your message, but none managed to stay very calm after the 5th line. I still have great hopes for the following attempt. First, I remember having said once on this mailing list -- but perhaps it was not to y

Re: [sage-devel] Cliquer - upstream modifications and dubious code

2010-09-15 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 09/15/10 06:17 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: I'm disheartened that this happened. One should not modify upstream source, but place patches against upstream source under the directory patch/. I think you mean "patches". I did notice a "patch" directory in Cliquer, but http://www.sagemath.org/doc/d

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Cliquer - upstream modifications and dubious code

2010-09-15 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 09/15/10 11:01 AM, Nathann Cohen wrote: If, as Dima mentionned it, I was meant to read this whole conversation as a "Nathann, could you update the Cliquer SPKG so that your modifications only appear in a patch folder" (and at some point the whole of Cliquer's source was in this patch/ folder),

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Cliquer - upstream modifications and dubious code

2010-09-15 Thread Nathann Cohen
> If, as Dima mentionned it, I was meant to read this whole conversation > as a "Nathann, could you update the Cliquer SPKG so that your > modifications only appear in a patch folder" (and at some point the > whole of Cliquer's source was in this patch/ folder), this would > indeed require very few

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Cliquer - upstream modifications and dubious code

2010-09-15 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Hi Nathann, Hello Minh ! > I'll be looking into the Cliquer spkg. I hope you would answer any > questions I have regarding that spkg or about computing cliques. I would and I will. If, as Dima mentionned it, I was meant to read this whole conversation as a "Nathann, could you update the Clique

Re: [sage-devel] Cliquer - upstream modifications and dubious code

2010-09-15 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Jan, On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Jan Groenewald wrote: > Is there a sage-devel code of conduct (like Ubuntu's perhaps -- it could > easily be adapted from that)?. It might be a good addition. I have been collecting some information [1] on managing an open source community, with a view to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Cliquer - upstream modifications and dubious code

2010-09-15 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi David, On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > I had my suspicions it was you, but I was not sure - I had no intentions of > accusing anyone unless I was sure. I had in fact cc'ed you on the ticket, > but you made no comments whatsoever. I also touched the Cliquer spkg, so

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Cliquer - upstream modifications and dubious code

2010-09-15 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Nathann, On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Nathann Cohen wrote: > If by any miracle you still ignored that I wrote this (very poor -- > let me add it for you) interface and all the functions of Sage that > use Cliquer, you will find my name under the "SPKG Maintainer" field > of the SPKG.txt f