Re: [sage-devel] Re: How to deal with GAP's machine dependent random generator?

2010-09-10 Thread Mike Hansen
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > Does current_randstate().set_seed_gap() actually sets GAP's random > seed, so that > subsequent GAP commands make use of the correctly set seed? Yep. --Mike -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsub

Re: [sage-devel] Re: OSX Clickable App

2010-09-10 Thread Dan Drake
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 at 10:13AM -0700, kcrisman wrote: > It is. I've also been testing this - you should try out the very > latest version: > http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/iandrus/ > There are still a few things to work out, but what we need are > *TESTERS* to track down dumb bugs (such as

[sage-devel] Re: How to deal with GAP's machine dependent random generator?

2010-09-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Hi Simon, On Sep 9, 10:23 pm, Simon King wrote: > Hi Dima! > > On Sep 9, 2:44 pm, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > >... > > Nobody seems to be willing to review the ticket, however, as if the > > problem got resolved in a way that escapes me. > > The problem for my package did indeed resolve, due to >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage is embarrassingly slow

2010-09-10 Thread dmharvey
On Sep 10, 9:08 pm, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > sage: type(matrix(Integers(3^5), 5, 5)) >   > sage: type(matrix(Integers(3^20), 5, 5)) >   That certainly explains one of the issues. Now watch me try to work around it: sage: R = Integers(3^20) sage: M1 = Matrix([[R.random_element() for i in range

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How are mirrors chosen for "sage -upgrade" ?

2010-09-10 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Harald Schilly wrote: > On Sep 8, 1:03 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: >> If the ping time to boxen.math.washington.edu is an order of magnitude less >> than >> any other mirror ... > > I've coded this and back then I thought this is a good idea, but maybe > it's no

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage is embarrassingly slow

2010-09-10 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 6:04 PM, dmharvey wrote: > > On Sep 10, 7:46 pm, William Stein wrote: >> On Friday, September 10, 2010, Tom Boothby wrote: >> >> The examples of slow things I gave are things that should be fast, >> >> even in the Sage interpreter. All of these things are fast in Magma >>

[sage-devel] Re: Sage is embarrassingly slow

2010-09-10 Thread dmharvey
On Sep 10, 7:46 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Friday, September 10, 2010, Tom Boothby wrote: > >> The examples of slow things I gave are things that should be fast, > >> even in the Sage interpreter. All of these things are fast in Magma > >> for example, which is also an interpreted language, a

Re: [sage-devel] Sage is embarrassingly slow

2010-09-10 Thread William Stein
On Friday, September 10, 2010, Tom Boothby wrote: >> The examples of slow things I gave are things that should be fast, >> even in the Sage interpreter. All of these things are fast in Magma >> for example, which is also an interpreted language, and this is the >> main reason that Magma is so popu

[sage-devel] Group cohomology now even on t2 and with full doctest coverage

2010-09-10 Thread Simon King
Dear group theorists and friends of group theorists, we proudly present the new version 2.1 of the modular group cohomology spkg. Now, all classes, methods and functions in the Cython and Python code are covered by tests. Moreover, it builds and tests not only on sage.math and bsd.math (64 and 32

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread kcrisman
On Sep 10, 2:31 pm, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On Sep 11, 1:31 am, kcrisman wrote: > > > > > > Buthttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42provideshttp://r.research.att.c... > > > which will do the installation of "10.4u", whatever this means, > > > Yeah, I'm not sure what this is either, > > > > App

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Sep 11, 1:31 am, kcrisman wrote: > > Buthttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42provideshttp://r.research.att.c... > > which will do the installation of "10.4u", whatever this means, > > Yeah, I'm not sure what this is either, > > > Apple's SDK with gcc42 and gfortran42. > > > So yes, it's the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage is embarrassingly slow

2010-09-10 Thread Tom Boothby
> The examples of slow things I gave are things that should be fast, > even in the Sage interpreter. All of these things are fast in Magma > for example, which is also an interpreted language, and this is the > main reason that Magma is so popular in my research area (and clearly > a reason that pe

Re: [sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Sep 10, 2010, at 10:31 AM, kcrisman wrote: Buthttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42provideshttp:// r.research.att.com/tools/gcc-4.2-5566-darwin8-all.tar.gz which will do the installation of "10.4u", whatever this means, Yeah, I'm not sure what this is either, I'll guess: 10.4 "univer

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread kcrisman
> Buthttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42provideshttp://r.research.att.com/tools/gcc-4.2-5566-darwin8-all.tar.gz > which will do the installation of "10.4u", whatever this means, Yeah, I'm not sure what this is either, > Apple's SDK with gcc42 and gfortran42. > > So yes, it's the missing gcc42

Re: [sage-devel] New PARI needs testing

2010-09-10 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Sep 7, 2010, at 03:09 , Jeroen Demeyer wrote: Hello sage-devel, As far as we know, there are no more remaining issues for the PARI update (#9343). We haven't had any doctest failures for a while now. The main issues recently have been with PARI not compiling properly on various machines, b

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Sep 10, 10:38 pm, kcrisman wrote: > On Sep 10, 9:34 am, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > > > > On Sep 10, 8:53 pm, kcrisman wrote: > > > > On Sep 10, 2:36 am, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > > After some trial and error, I came > > > > acrosshttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42 > > > > I men

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread kcrisman
> But, as I said, gfortran integrated with Xcode's gcc is available > athttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42, so there is really > no point in having g95 in Sage at all! Right, *if* it's easy to get this to play along with existing Xcode installations. If Sage can somehow detect this situatio

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread kcrisman
On Sep 10, 9:34 am, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On Sep 10, 8:53 pm, kcrisman wrote: > > > On Sep 10, 2:36 am, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > After some trial and error, I came > > > acrosshttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42 > > > I mentioned this link in one of my (many) posts on this thread -

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Dave, On Sep 10, 6:48 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > On 09/10/10 07:36 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > So yes, it seems that g95 can be dropped this way, but this is a > > considerable amount of work. > > Dima, > > I would not waste any time on this - the gains do not warrant much work. indeed.

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Sep 10, 8:53 pm, kcrisman wrote: > On Sep 10, 2:36 am, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > After some trial and error, I came > > acrosshttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42 > > I mentioned this link in one of my (many) posts on this thread - sorry > if I didn't highlight it more. > > > that descr

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread kcrisman
On Sep 10, 2:36 am, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > After some trial and error, I came > acrosshttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42 I mentioned this link in one of my (many) posts on this thread - sorry if I didn't highlight it more. > that describes a process of building gfortran using Xcode gcc-4

Re: [sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 09/10/10 07:36 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: So yes, it seems that g95 can be dropped this way, but this is a considerable amount of work. Dima, I would not waste any time on this - the gains do not warrant much work. The amount of work would decrease if we drop MacOSX 10.4 from the list of