On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Mike Hansen wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
>> Hi Dima,
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>>> if it's PARI-dependent, it makes sense to upgrade PARI to the latest
>>> version.
>>
>> Perhaps upgrading Pari coul
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> Hi Dima,
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>> if it's PARI-dependent, it makes sense to upgrade PARI to the latest
>> version.
>
> Perhaps upgrading Pari could be a goal for Sage 5.0?
I think upgrading to the latest sta
As Jason said, the docstrings do indicate what model (simple, for now)
we're using to transform colors. We mention in several places in
colors.py docstrings that we reduce R, G, and B components modulo one.
But we could be more explicit.
Anyway, we could make it possible to choose between this an
On Mar 5, 11:27 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby"
wrote:
> I suspect the Debian people are reasonable and could be persuaded to accept
> things if there were aware of just how many patches have needed to be made to
> 'standard' packages.
They are reasonable. My guess is they would usually email upstream to
Nick Alexander wrote:
David is trying to argue that the goals for Sage-5.0 should be
* Official Solaris 10 support (all tests pass)
TARGET DATE: Sometime in March?
*instead* of the following:
* 90% doctest coverage score (=write about 1500 doctests)
* Official Solaris 10 support (all te
Jason Grout wrote:
On 03/05/2010 07:04 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
I just got a doc test failure on Solaris.
File
"/export/home/drkirkby/32/sage-4.3.4.alpha0/devel/sage/sage/plot/colors.py",
line 660:
sage: gold / pi + yellow * e
Expected:
RGB color (0.51829585732141792, 0.49333037605210095
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> I'm very much inexperienced with respect to Debian porting.
> All I'm saying is that the task ahead seems to me too surmountable,
That should be "too insurmountable". Sorry for the typo.
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Hi Dima,
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
> if it's PARI-dependent, it makes sense to upgrade PARI to the latest
> version.
Perhaps upgrading Pari could be a goal for Sage 5.0?
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On 03/05/2010 07:04 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
I just got a doc test failure on Solaris.
File
"/export/home/drkirkby/32/sage-4.3.4.alpha0/devel/sage/sage/plot/colors.py",
line 660:
sage: gold / pi + yellow * e
Expected:
RGB color (0.51829585732141792, 0.49333037605210095, 0.0)
Got:
RGB color (
On 5-Mar-10, at 6:27 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
if it's PARI-dependent, it makes sense to upgrade PARI to the latest
version.
PARI used by Sage is almost 2-year old.
They rolled out two upgrades in the meantime.
Unfortunately, updating PARI in sage is phenomenally difficult. I
tried more th
if it's PARI-dependent, it makes sense to upgrade PARI to the latest
version.
PARI used by Sage is almost 2-year old.
They rolled out two upgrades in the meantime.
Dima
On Mar 6, 6:41 am, mhampton wrote:
> I tried to confirm that fix, and realized that this problem isn't
> occuring on my mac (ru
David is trying to argue that the goals for Sage-5.0 should be
* Official Solaris 10 support (all tests pass)
TARGET DATE: Sometime in March?
*instead* of the following:
* 90% doctest coverage score (=write about 1500 doctests)
* Official Solaris 10 support (all tests pass)
* Official C
Hi Uli,
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 7:10 AM, kuli wrote:
> Hello
>
> Yes, I've seen the logic module, but I think there's only rudimentary
> support for propositional logic. I would like to help in implementing
> this stuff,
Cool! Glad to know you would like to help out.
> but need some time, becau
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Nick Alexander wrote:
>
> On 5-Mar-10, at 5:26 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
>
>> William Stein wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Goals for Sage-5.0:
>>> * 90% doctest coverage score (=write about 1500 doctests)
>>
>> Hopefully with some justification of why the expected resul
On 5-Mar-10, at 5:26 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
William Stein wrote:
Hi,
Goals for Sage-5.0:
* 90% doctest coverage score (=write about 1500 doctests)
Hopefully with some justification of why the expected result is what
it is. Not magic numbers - see
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/s
William Stein wrote:
Hi,
Goals for Sage-5.0:
* 90% doctest coverage score (=write about 1500 doctests)
Hopefully with some justification of why the expected result is what it is. Not
magic numbers - see
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/90d933ea2881cbf8
Hi,
I played around a little during the sage status reports seminar today
with importing the sage library in a second *thread*, which was
something that Robert Bradshaw suggested. This has potential. I'm
recording something about this here, just for the record (it doesn't
really fit for a trac
I just got a doc test failure on Solaris.
File
"/export/home/drkirkby/32/sage-4.3.4.alpha0/devel/sage/sage/plot/colors.py",
line 660:
sage: gold / pi + yellow * e
Expected:
RGB color (0.51829585732141792, 0.49333037605210095, 0.0)
Got:
RGB color (0.51829585732141814, 0.49333037605
Hi William,
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:13 AM, William Stein wrote:
> Maybe you somehow upgraded the system-wide sage in January once with
> sudo in some way when you were doing release management...?
I can assure you that so far, and to the best of my knowledge, I have
not done such a thing. I
Hi,
Goals for Sage-5.0:
* 90% doctest coverage score (=write about 1500 doctests)
* Official Solaris 10 support (all tests pass)
* Official Cygwin support (all tests pass)
* Close _all_ tickets listed at
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/wiki/stab1
TARGET DATE: Sometime in
Ok, it only happens in my office. Probably some add-on in firefox or
some problem with the cookies...
Anyway, it doesn't matter anymore.
Chris.
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Kasper Peeters wrote:
Has anyone considered emailing the official maintainer
Tim Abbott
and ask him whether he would be interested in handing over
maintainership to someone with more time to bring the debian package
up to date?
I would be happy to help out with this (including contacting Ab
I tried to confirm that fix, and realized that this problem isn't
occuring on my mac (running 10.6.2). Strange.
-Marshall
On Mar 5, 3:25 pm, Gonzalo Tornaria wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Simon King wrote
>
> > Hi!
>
> > I created a ticket at
> > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Robert Bradshaw
wrote:
> On Mar 5, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
>> I can see some advantages and disadvantages for introducing the two
>> new classifications: FAQs, and Sage HOWTOs.
>>
>> Pros: All doctests in the above documents are regularly executed
>> be
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Mike Hansen wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Robert Miller wrote:
>> [rlm-book sage-4.3.4.alpha0/devel/sage-main]$ ../../sage -notebook
>> ImportError: No module named randstate
>> [rlm-book sage-4.3.4.alpha0/devel/sage-main]$ cd ../..
>> [rlm-book sage-4.
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> Hi Ryna,
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Ryan Hinton wrote:
>
>
>
>> This isn't a docbuild -- this is a doctest. I'm just running the
>> tests. I expect that when I run
>>
>> /system/path/sage -testall
>>
>> I should get an "All tests p
On Mar 5, 7:27 pm, Kasper Peeters
wrote:
> I would be happy to help out with this ...
I just want to add that there is a package for mandriva.
Look here at the list of required packages:
http://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandriva/devel/2010.1/i586/media/contrib/release/sagemath-4.3.3-2mdv2010.1.i5
On 5 Mrz., 22:29, Simon King wrote:
> I think the conclusion in this other thread (that I can't find, I am
> afraid) was:...
It was ticket http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/4568
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Hi!
On 5 Mrz., 20:33, Minh Nguyen wrote:
>
> > I should get an "All tests passed!" result for a successful install --
> > whether or not I have write access in the install tree. For example,
> > the builder.py doctests might write to temporary files in my ~/.sage
> > directory (where I have writ
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Simon King wrote
> Hi!
>
> I created a ticket at
> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8444
I think this is caused by a duplicate _sig_on in the bottom part of
pari.__call__.
I'll post details and (possible) solution later (feel free to ping me
in a few da
On Mar 5, 8:35 pm, François Bissey wrote:
> > Earlier there was some discussion of creating an environmental
> > variable that would attempt to build sage with system versions of the
> > libraries and other dependencies, rather than the versions shipped
> > with sage. Did anything come of that?
>
> In the past, Tim Abbott asked to be cc'ed on threads like these. I
> think his primary difficulty is keeping up with all the dependencies
> of sage, especially when sage releases with a patched version of a
> dependency that has not made it upstream yet. Debian package
> maintainers are unlikely
In the past, Tim Abbott asked to be cc'ed on threads like these. I
think his primary difficulty is keeping up with all the dependencies
of sage, especially when sage releases with a patched version of a
dependency that has not made it upstream yet. Debian package
maintainers are unlikely to quickly
Hello
Yes, I've seen the logic module, but I think there's only rudimentary
support for propositional logic. I would like to help in implementing
this stuff, but need some time, because I have to make myself
comfortable with Python and the whole sage math development life cycle
and all its feature
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Robert Miller wrote:
> [rlm-book sage-4.3.4.alpha0/devel/sage-main]$ ../../sage -notebook
> ImportError: No module named randstate
> [rlm-book sage-4.3.4.alpha0/devel/sage-main]$ cd ../..
> [rlm-book sage-4.3.4.alpha0]$ ./sage -notebook
> }}}
This is a pretty commo
Hi Ryna,
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Ryan Hinton wrote:
> This isn't a docbuild -- this is a doctest. I'm just running the
> tests. I expect that when I run
>
> /system/path/sage -testall
>
> I should get an "All tests passed!" result for a successful install --
> whether or not I have w
Minh,
Thanks for the reply.
On Mar 5, 2:03 pm, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> Hi Ryan,
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Ryan Hinton wrote:
> > I am in the process of running doctests on a machine with a system-wide Sage
> > install. I don't have write access to the install area. Several doctests
> >
Hi Ryan,
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Ryan Hinton wrote:
> I am in the process of running doctests on a machine with a system-wide Sage
> install. I don't have write access to the install area. Several doctests
> for doc/common/builder.py try to write to files in the install area, and so
> f
Hi Uli
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:33 AM, kuli wrote:
> Secondly, I want to ask you, if it would make sense (I think it makes)
> to develop a computational logic module for sage math. I'm thinking of
> tools for logic
>
> -> CNF/DNF convertions
> -> boolean truth tables (mandatory)
> -> support f
Hi Kasper,
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Kasper Peeters
wrote:
> I would be happy to help out with this (including contacting Abbott),
> but it will clearly require quite a bit of work because neither Debian
> nor Ubuntu like packages which duplicate software already in the
> repositories.
On Mar 5, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Simon King wrote:
Hi Robert!
On Mar 5, 12:42 am, Robert Bradshaw
wrote:
[...]
As soon as anything is done with the object, it
does a *real* import, replaces itself in G with the real thing, and
since the reference from G is gone, the LazyImport object would
eventu
On Mar 5, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Kasper Peeters wrote:
Has anyone considered emailing the official maintainer
Tim Abbott
and ask him whether he would be interested in handing over
maintainership to someone with more time to bring the debian package
up to date?
I would be happy to help out with
Hello,
first at all I want to congratulate you all for your work at sagemath.
I think it's very important that there are free high-quality math-
solutions available.
Secondly, I want to ask you, if it would make sense (I think it makes)
to develop a computational logic module for sage math. I'm t
Has anyone considered emailing the official maintainer
Tim Abbott
and ask him whether he would be interested in handing over
maintainership to someone with more time to bring the debian package
up to date?
I would be happy to help out with this (including contacting Abbott),
but it will clear
I am in the process of running doctests on a machine with a system-wide
Sage install. I don't have write access to the install area. Several
doctests for doc/common/builder.py try to write to files in the install
area, and so fail. I created trac #8448 for this, but thought I should
post it
On Mar 5, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
Hi Dan,
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:12 AM, bump wrote:
Of course the documentation in the source files is essential. But
although
there is adequate documentation in the source files for someone who
knows it
is there and wants to dig, you don't ge
Hi Dan,
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:12 AM, bump wrote:
> Of course the documentation in the source files is essential. But
> although
> there is adequate documentation in the source files for someone who
> knows it
> is there and wants to dig, you don't get any sense of how to use the
> program
>
On 5 Mar, 15:27, William Stein wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
> > here is the response from one of Debian folks
>
> Bill says:
>
> >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/t/1f055a381532b667#354256...
>
> > This email mentions problem with Ubuntu. Removin
ok, that's what I understood. I do have the ssh thing set upproperly
(otherwise it would not work at all). The *only* think not working is
when magma is run!
John
On 5 March 2010 15:26, Dr David Kirkby wrote:
>
>
> On 5 Mar, 13:53, John Cremona wrote:
>> A while back I reported a problem, but
Did anyone run into a similar problem :
Everytime I would like to do something (like adding a patch,
reviewing one...) on http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ it logs me
out. And then I am not allowed to do it anymore. I can log in, though.
Any idea ?
Chris.
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I wasn't sure if this was a known bug or not, so I thought I'd post
here before creating a new ticket. I tried running the notebook from
the command line, and it only worked from certain places:
{{{
[rlm-book sage-4.3.4.alpha0/devel/sage-main]$ ../../sage -notebook
-
On 5 Mar, 12:23, David Kirkby wrote:
> Dennis Clark of Blastwave has given me access to a Blade 2000 with a
> couple of 1.6 GHz CPUs.
> Dave
Oops, it was a Sun Blade 2500 Dennis gave me access to - not a Blade
2000.
The Blade 2000 is limited to CPUs of 1.2 GHz, whereas the 2500's can
take 1.6
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
> here is the response from one of Debian folks
Bill says:
>> >>http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/t/1f055a381532b667#354256...
>
> This email mentions problem with Ubuntu. Removing the package from Ubuntu
> is a totally different iss
On 5 Mar, 13:53, John Cremona wrote:
> A while back I reported a problem, but had not much useful feedback. I
> am running a local sage server which runs under the user "sage" and I
> created a pool of other users sage0, ..., sage3 under which the
> individual worksheets run. That basically wor
here is the response from one of Debian folks
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From: Bill Allombert
Date: 5 March 2010 18:49
Subject: Re: Fwd: Debian package...
To: Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 08:28:53PM -0800, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
> Dear Bill,
>
> do you know how to handle
A while back I reported a problem, but had not much useful feedback. I
am running a local sage server which runs under the user "sage" and I
created a pool of other users sage0, ..., sage3 under which the
individual worksheets run. That basically worked fine, except that I
could not run magma from
Hi David,
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:23 PM, David Kirkby wrote:
> Perhaps Harald could add this fact the acknowledgements page.
Done. Please see the updated acknowledgement page:
http://www.sagemath.org/development-ack.html
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I doubt Sage will include mpir 1.3.1. Numerous versions of sage have
past without including this, so presumably there is some reason for
that.
But I'm sure sage will eventually update to *some* more recent version
of MPIR, which will certainly fix the yasm issues, and perhaps many
others.
Bill.
Hi!
I created a ticket at
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8444
Best regards,
Simon
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On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Rob Beezer wrote:
> Cayley tables for groups aren't working properly (http://
> trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7340), so I've taken this as an
> excuse to write some new code for a more general object I've been
> calling an "operation table." (http://trac.sage
As those who have used 't2' know, it is not the fastest machine in the
world. The machines I have at home
* Sun Blade 1000 , dual 900 MHZ, 2 GB RAM
* Sun Blade 2000, dual 1.2 GHz,
are both faster. I tried using skynet yesterday, but the two machines
on there (Sun Bade 2500's with 1.28 GHz proc
Hi,
> > Disclaimer: I'm not a debian user and my intend is not to launch a
> > flame nor to disregard the hard work that has been done to have a
> > sage debian package.
> >
> > However, during sage days 20 as well as during my course at the
> > university of Rouen, I've got at least a doze
Hi Robert!
On Mar 5, 12:42 am, Robert Bradshaw
wrote:
[...]
> > As soon as anything is done with the object, it
> > does a *real* import, replaces itself in G with the real thing, and
> > since the reference from G is gone, the LazyImport object would
> > eventually be garbage collected.
>
> I've
Hello !
> actually, some of these "optional" things here only need an LP solver
> (not a MILP solver), and Sage does have an LP solver, via
> a standard package CVXOPT.
> It would be nice to get rid of these dependencies on optional
> packages.
Well, the only algorithm which I think could be repl
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