After reading
http://blogs.sun.com/janp/entry/on_openssl_versions_in_solaris
I discovered that Sun do ship Open SSL 0.9.7, complete with any
security fixes, with Solaris. Sun obviously have some agreement with
the OpenSSL developers, as they will know of security vunrabilites
before they are made
On 31-Jan-10, at 11:35 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote:
On 2010-Jan-31 22:02:19 -0800, Nick Alexander
wrote:
Not at all. But take away mathematics, and we don't have a
*product*. Take away release management, fixing bugs, documentation,
or maintaining the web site and we have an inferior project, b
Does anyone here have experience configuring and managing a Buildbot system?
http://buildbot.net/trac
http://djmitche.github.com/buildbot/docs/latest/
To enable continuous, automated builds on several platforms, we could
* Set up a meta-repository of the Sage Mercurial repositories and
spkgs.
On 2010-Jan-31 22:02:19 -0800, Nick Alexander wrote:
>Not at all. But take away mathematics, and we don't have a
>*product*. Take away release management, fixing bugs, documentation,
>or maintaining the web site and we have an inferior project, but we
>still have a project. Take away supp
On 2010-Jan-30 11:51:08 +, "Dr. David Kirkby"
wrote:
>Bill Hart wrote:
>> Cause of what David? MPIR 1.3.0 works absolutely fine on t2 if you set
>> the library paths correctly.
>
>I'm not convinced it should be necessary to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH like
>that. It is not with other 64-bit applicati
On 31 January 2010 17:21, Bill Hart wrote:
> Hmm, the link could help:
>
> http://mpir.org/supported.html
>
> It's not on the main MPIR webpage yet, as this is a proposal, which
> will need approval of the MPIR devels, after a period of discussion.
>
> Bill.
Under:
"Architectures we might like t
On 1 February 2010 05:51, Tim Lahey wrote:
> Solaris isn't exactly an "unusual" architecture. That's what he's done the
> most at
> supporting. He certainly has done "a LOT" at supporting it. I think what he's
> asking
> that Bill not purposely break FLINT since it does currently work.
If was
On 1 February 2010 06:02, Nick Alexander wrote:
>> I hate to think that the only people that are valid contributors to Sage
>> are
>> mathematicians. So, doing the release management, fixing bugs,
>> documentation, or
>> maintaining the web site aren't important?
>
> Not at all. But take away ma
By and large, we are a community of mathematicians. Correct me if
I'm wrong, but you are not contributing to the mathematical aspects
of Sage. Until that changes, your goals and my goals are only
occasionally aligned.
I hate to think that the only people that are valid contributors to
S
On 02-01-2010, at 12:45 AM, Nick Alexander wrote:
>
> I take issue with the claim that you have done "a LOT" for Sage. Let me be
> clear: I appreciate the effort you put into porting Sage to other
> architectures. But I question how many people are interested in actually
> using Sage on thos
I think I've done a LOT for Sage - I would request you do not
purposely break the PA-RISC support in MPIR, when it clearly passes
all your self tests on HP-UX. I do not believe thiat is an
unreasonable request.
I take issue with the claim that you have done "a LOT" for Sage. Let
me be clear:
On 1 February 2010 04:53, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:43 PM, David Kirkby wrote:
>
>
>
>> You have several options.
>>
>> 1) William has a virtual machine I believe.
>
> I vaguely recall a machine called "disk.math" or something that runs
> OpenSolaris.
Yes, that
On 31 January 2010 14:27, Bill Hart wrote:
> I don't see any point listing HP-UX. That platform died in 2004. I saw
> its grave.
>
> Here is one of the many obituaries:
>
> http://www.chillingeffects.org/responses/notice.cgi?NoticeID=1460
The latest release of HP-UX was September 2009 - 4 months
On 01/31/2010 04:05 AM, Simon King wrote:
> When working on some trac tickets, I found that the "preview" button
> does not work.
>
> Trac claimed that it was an invalid operation. Afterwards, when
This *may* have happened during a server-side change, e.g., while
configuring a plug-in.
> returni
Hi David,
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:43 PM, David Kirkby wrote:
> You have several options.
>
> 1) William has a virtual machine I believe.
I vaguely recall a machine called "disk.math" or something that runs
OpenSolaris.
> 2) You can install it in VirtualBox.
That is possible. My local mach
On 31 January 2010 21:20, Jaap Spies wrote:
> Jaap Spies wrote:
>>
>> Hi c++ experts,
>>
>> My C++ is a little bit rusty, so I'll ask here.
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Jaap
>>
>>
>>
>
> Ok, I seem to be on the ban list of everybody? Please help.
>
> jaap
Certainly not on my ban list - in fact nobody
On 31 January 2010 21:28, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> Hi Jaap,
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Jaap Spies wrote:
>
>
>
>> Ok, I seem to be on the ban list of everybody?
>
> Certainly not. Not on mine.
>
>
>> Please help.
>
> I'm very new with OpenSolaris. But is there an OpenSolaris machine
> somew
On 31 January 2010 14:27, Bill Hart wrote:
> I don't see any point listing HP-UX. That platform died in 2004. I saw
> its grave.
>
> Here is one of the many obituaries:
>
> http://www.chillingeffects.org/responses/notice.cgi?NoticeID=1460
>
> I see you suggested Sage switch to GMP for an HP-UX por
On 31 January 2010 22:57, chris wuthrich wrote:
> Sorry for the spam; but I thought I'd share it with you.
>
> We had a big problem with our heating in our house a few weeks ago,
> exactly when it is was so freezing cold in Nottingham that they were
> talking about "the coldest winter". I imagined
On 1 February 2010 03:26, David Roe wrote:
> Note that the OpenSSL license is in the section of that page outlining
> licenses incompatible with the GPL. Here's the summary of OpenSSL on that
> page:
>
> The license of OpenSSL is a conjunction of two licenses, one of them being
> the license of S
On 1 February 2010 03:33, David Kirkby wrote:
> On 31 January 2010 21:53, Minh Nguyen wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I'm happy to announce that Sage 4.3.0.1.alpha1 [1] successfully builds
>> on t2.math. Due to an unfortunate typo, the version number should be
>> Sage 4.3.0.2.alpha1 since it's based on
On 31 January 2010 21:53, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm happy to announce that Sage 4.3.0.1.alpha1 [1] successfully builds
> on t2.math. Due to an unfortunate typo, the version number should be
> Sage 4.3.0.2.alpha1 since it's based on Sage 4.3.0.1 [2]. This alpha
> release is based on Sa
Note that the OpenSSL license is in the section of that page outlining
licenses incompatible with the GPL. Here's the summary of OpenSSL on that
page:
The license of OpenSSL is a conjunction of two licenses, one of them being
the license of SSLeay. You must follow both. The combination results in
I believe our problems are solved reguards the OpenSSL / GPL issue.
Follow this logic.
1) The GPL is copyright the Free Software Federation. It says that at
the top of the GPL license.
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.txt
2) The Free Sofware Federation contain a list of licenses compatible
wi
Just curious how this is going if anyone has given up or its still
happening.
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Since the topic of desktop-based apps for Sage has come up recently on
this list, I thought it might be a good time to point out that a very
good way to create a desktop-based GUI for Sage is to use one of the
open source Java IDEs as a foundation. This is what I did when I
created SageIDE a coupl
Given the climate here in Duluth, I would be happy to host a build
farm in my house...
-Marshall
On Jan 31, 5:23 pm, Martin Albrecht
wrote:
> On Sunday 31 January 2010, chris wuthrich wrote:
>
> > Sorry for the spam; but I thought I'd share it with you.
>
> > We had a big problem with our heatin
On Jan 31, 1:37 pm, lutusp wrote:
> > Then why do you bother posting things that look like requests for
> > help?
>
> In the hope that someone will fix the source, rather than offer new
> patches?
This is contradictory: the way the source gets fixed is that people
post patches, and then other peo
On Sunday 31 January 2010, chris wuthrich wrote:
> Sorry for the spam; but I thought I'd share it with you.
>
> We had a big problem with our heating in our house a few weeks ago,
> exactly when it is was so freezing cold in Nottingham that they were
> talking about "the coldest winter". I imagine
Hi Chris,
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:57 AM, chris wuthrich
wrote:
> Sage has
> so many useful applications !
No one knows more about this than David Kirkby [1] :-)
Sage: creating a viable free open source alternative to Magma, Maple,
Mathematica and Matlab, preventing frozen water pipes and ke
Sorry for the spam; but I thought I'd share it with you.
We had a big problem with our heating in our house a few weeks ago,
exactly when it is was so freezing cold in Nottingham that they were
talking about "the coldest winter". I imagined it is going to be a bit
difficult to sleep when I could s
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that Sage 4.3.0.1.alpha1 [1] successfully builds
on t2.math. Due to an unfortunate typo, the version number should be
Sage 4.3.0.2.alpha1 since it's based on Sage 4.3.0.1 [2]. This alpha
release is based on Sage 4.3.0.1.alpha0 and merged the following
tickets:
#777
On 01-31-2010, at 4:29 PM, Andy Somogyi wrote:
> Hello All
>
> Here is a link to a prototype sage desktop app for the Mac.
>
> http://numerator.sourceforge.net/SageApp.dmg
>
> Its 100% native, Cocoa model / view application. On startup, it creates a
> background process with the sage notebook
Dear Javier,
On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 02:01:07PM -0800, javier wrote:
> The implementation of the conjugacy classes is now ticket #7886:
> http://sagetrac.org/sage_trac/ticket/7886
I went through your patch, and am definitely +1 on the overall design
and user interface! Here are some sugge
> Then why do you bother posting things that look like requests for
> help?
In the hope that someone will fix the source, rather than offer new
patches? It's not as though it hasn't been reported yet, or discussed
yet, and several new releases have gone by without resolution.
Meanwhile I'll get ar
Minh Nguyen wrote:
Hi Jaap,
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Jaap Spies wrote:
Ok, I seem to be on the ban list of everybody?
Certainly not. Not on mine.
Thanks!
Please help.
I'm very new with OpenSolaris. But is there an OpenSolaris machine
somewhere I could use to help?
I use
Hello All
Here is a link to a prototype sage desktop app for the Mac.
http://numerator.sourceforge.net/SageApp.dmg
Its 100% native, Cocoa model / view application. On startup, it creates a
background process with the sage notebook server, and users can open as many
windows as they want to it.
Hi Jaap,
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Jaap Spies wrote:
> Ok, I seem to be on the ban list of everybody?
Certainly not. Not on mine.
> Please help.
I'm very new with OpenSolaris. But is there an OpenSolaris machine
somewhere I could use to help?
--
Regards
Minh Van Nguyen
--
To post
Jaap Spies wrote:
Hi c++ experts,
My C++ is a little bit rusty, so I'll ask here.
Building matplotlib, pynac, scipy and scipysandbox fail in the end with
/usr/local/gcc-4.4.2/lib/gcc/i386-pc-solaris2.11/4.4.2/../../../../include/c++/4.4.2/bits/char_traits.h:
In static member function ‘static
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:09:24AM -0800, Nick Alexander wrote:
> Why don't you update the sage-mode wiki ...
Upon googling for the wiki, the first hit was:
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_Mode
"Sage Mode is the result of using natural energy along with a
ninja's normal
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 08:58:28PM +, John Cremona wrote:
> Some of those might have come from me since I use emacs and I edited
> some combinat docstrings recently (they were giveing errors when
> building the docs).
Those we just fixed were from someone else :-)
> I would like to have emacs
Ah!
http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/biz-enterprise/266916-red-hat-pulls-plug-on-itanium-with-rhel-6
That leaves debian, which still supports it officially, unofficial
support on Ubuntu and support for ia32 on SUSE.
But that leads me to question the future of ia64 itself. I don't
personally
The following example
sage: p = 17
sage: F = GF(p)
sage: P2. = ProjectiveSpace(F,2)
sage: C = Curve(X^2+Y^2-Z^2)
sage: len(C.rational_points())
18
sage: C.rational_points(algorithm='bn')
---
RuntimeError
OK, I did some reading and I now see the point of the question.
At this point I don't see any problem with Linux on Itanium 2. For
example the gcc build farm contains an Itanium 2 (though no longer an
Itanium), and gcc itself support Itanium 2, as does the assembler
(obviously).
Are there any art
Hmm, the link could help:
http://mpir.org/supported.html
It's not on the main MPIR webpage yet, as this is a proposal, which
will need approval of the MPIR devels, after a period of discussion.
Bill.
On Jan 31, 5:17 pm, Bill Hart wrote:
> I've made a page of Architectures/Compilers/OSes that M
I've posted a list of arches/compilers/OSes that MPIR currently does/
perhaps should support, in another thread. That should answer the
question, I think.
On Jan 31, 3:28 pm, William Stein wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Bill Hart
> wrote:
> > I don't see any point listing HP-UX. That
I've made a page of Architectures/Compilers/OSes that MPIR should
recognise, along with a *proposed* categorisation according to how
much attention the MPIR developers do/should pay to each.
I'm posting this to the mpir-devel and sage-devel lists for comment,
as this is just as relevant for the Sa
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Bill Hart wrote:
> I don't see any point listing HP-UX. That platform died in 2004. I saw
> its grave.
>
> Here is one of the many obituaries:
>
> http://www.chillingeffects.org/responses/notice.cgi?NoticeID=1460
>
> I see you suggested Sage switch to GMP for an HP
I don't see any point listing HP-UX. That platform died in 2004. I saw
its grave.
Here is one of the many obituaries:
http://www.chillingeffects.org/responses/notice.cgi?NoticeID=1460
I see you suggested Sage switch to GMP for an HP-UX port. Well, not
only will MPIR not be supporting HP-UX, but
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 at 10:15AM +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
> 3) Change Sage so that the hashlib module of python is not essential
> for a functioning Sage. That is I suspect the easiest option. I
> don't claim to understand how Sage builds fully, but I would have
> thought crypto support was not
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Dr. David Kirkby
wrote:
> William Stein wrote:
> Personally, I do not believe it is legal to ship OpenSSL and for Sage to
> remain GPL, unless you could get the python developers agree to add an
> clause that permits linking against OpenSSL.
>
> http://www.openssl
Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
[snipped]
Fair enough. I mis understood this. But I still think we should not let
someone upgrade Sage with a version different to what they used to build
it.
-1
I've a system wide install of sage upgraded 86 times:
[r...@paix installed]# ls sage-*
sage-1.5.1.2 sage-
Hi!
When working on some trac tickets, I found that the "preview" button
does not work.
Trac claimed that it was an invalid operation. Afterwards, when
returning to the trac ticket, "assign to SimonKing" was ticked, while
it should have been "leaving needs_review".
Are others experiencing simila
Martin Albrecht wrote:
The only place I know it's used is to serve up secure notebooks, but I
bet its used elsewhere too. I see another option
IF that is all, then that hardly seems a major loss of functionality. I bet
most people don't use the secure notebooks anyway. I can see they have
adva
> > The only place I know it's used is to serve up secure notebooks, but I
> > bet its used elsewhere too. I see another option
>
> IF that is all, then that hardly seems a major loss of functionality. I bet
> most people don't use the secure notebooks anyway. I can see they have
> advantages th
Robert Bradshaw wrote:
On Jan 31, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
I was not actually suggesting shipping OpenSSL, as I knew there were
license implications.
But I think you would have to agree it is pretty annoying for someone
to download Sage, start a build,
Alex Ghitza wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:47:00 +, "Dr. David Kirkby"
wrote:
The issue reported on sage-support makes me think we should insist that updates
are performed with the same version of gcc as that which was used to build gcc
in the first placed. Basically, two people have found
On Jan 31, 2010, at 2:21 AM, David Joyner wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Ivan Andrus wrote:
>> On Jan 30, 2010, at 2:17 PM, David Joyner wrote:
>
> ...
>
http://math.byu.edu/~gvol/files/fluidium_app-0.1.spkg
>>>
>>> This doesn't work either (imac, 10.6.2).
>>
>> Hmm. It
http://wiki.sagemath.org/SupportedPlatforms
is very out of date. This is no criticism o the web master - I know only too
well it is next to impossible to keep a web site up to date.
Here are the points.
1) Solaris 9 on Sparc 32 bit (ongoing, getting close, mabshoff is working on
this)
Truth
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:47:00 +, "Dr. David Kirkby"
wrote:
> The issue reported on sage-support makes me think we should insist that
> updates
> are performed with the same version of gcc as that which was used to build
> gcc
> in the first placed. Basically, two people have found
>
> 1)
On Jan 31, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
I was not actually suggesting shipping OpenSSL, as I knew there
were license implications.
But I think you would have to agree it is pretty annoying for
someone to download Sage, start a build, then the build fail d
Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
3) Change Sage so that the hashlib module of python is not essential for
a functioning Sage. That is I suspect the easiest option. I don't claim
to understand how Sage builds fully, but I would have thought crypto
support was not a requirement.
What I mean is, that a
Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
I was not actually suggesting shipping OpenSSL, as I knew there were
license implications.
But I think you would have to agree it is pretty annoying for someone to
download Sage, start a build, then the build fail due to lack of OpenSSL.
I do not believe this issue is
Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
The issue reported on sage-support makes me think we should insist that
updates are performed with the same version of gcc as that which was
used to build gcc in the first placed.
I mean update Sage with the same version of gcc - not update gcc with the same
version!
The issue reported on sage-support makes me think we should insist that updates
are performed with the same version of gcc as that which was used to build gcc
in the first placed. Basically, two people have found
1) Install Sage with older gcc.
2) Install the latest gcc 4.4.3
3) Try to update S
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
wrote:
Starting to build Sage, then finding the python builds, but finds to find
the hashlib module is a bit irritating. There is is a specific test for this
in spkg-install.
-
# Make sure sufficie
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