[sage-devel] Re: Repeated Warnings

2010-01-16 Thread Jason Grout
Martin Raum wrote: In #7928 due to the fact that the default python waring filter displays warnings only once a comment on this behaviour is added and that's it. I would like to reinitiate a discussion on this, arguing that Sage should define its own warning classes. Use case for example: I have

[sage-devel] Re: bad binomial sum

2010-01-16 Thread andrejv
> andrejv wrote: > > On Jan 10, 6:15 pm, Harald Schilly wrote: > > > Hi, I got this from the report a problem link: > > > > Typing (in the inotebook) > > > > var('t,k,i') > > > sum(binomial(i+t,t),i,0,k) > > > > results in > > > > binomial(k + t + 1, t + 1) - 1 > > > > which is false, the well-kn

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-16 Thread William Stein
2010/1/16 Dima Pasechnik : > > > On Jan 17, 12:53 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" > wrote: >> Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> > I understand that Debian support is on hold. AFAIK, a proper Debian >> > requires a complete refactoring >> > of the code, in particular removing all the things that are not really >> >

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-16 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Jan 17, 12:53 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > I understand that Debian support is on hold. AFAIK, a proper Debian > > requires a complete refactoring > > of the code, in particular removing all the things that are not really > > Sage, e.g. mercurial, gap, singular, e

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-16 Thread William Stein
2010/1/16 Dima Pasechnik : > I understand that Debian support is on hold. AFAIK, a proper Debian > requires a complete refactoring > of the code, in particular removing all the things that are not really > Sage, e.g. mercurial, gap, singular, etc etc etc. > I understand it has been done at some poi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dima Pasechnik wrote: I understand that Debian support is on hold. AFAIK, a proper Debian requires a complete refactoring of the code, in particular removing all the things that are not really Sage, e.g. mercurial, gap, singular, etc etc etc. I understand it has been done at some point for Sage 3

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-16 Thread Dima Pasechnik
I understand that Debian support is on hold. AFAIK, a proper Debian requires a complete refactoring of the code, in particular removing all the things that are not really Sage, e.g. mercurial, gap, singular, etc etc etc. I understand it has been done at some point for Sage 3, but then the main pers

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage upgrade error (polybori-0.6.3-20090827)

2010-01-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: What version were you upgrading from? SAGE Version 3.1.2, Release Date: 2008-09-19 That's too old of a version of Sage. You will need to do a fresh install. William Ideally, it would be good if the 'upgrade' option has some sort of mechanism for determining when an u

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage upgrade error (polybori-0.6.3-20090827)

2010-01-16 Thread William Stein
2010/1/16 Igor Tolkov : > On Jan 16, 12:18 pm, William Stein wrote: >> 2010/1/16 Igor Tolkov : >> >> > My SAGE upgrade (using sage --upgrade) on the machine: >> >> What GCC? > > Using built-in specs. > Target: x86_64-linux-gnu > Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Ubuntu > 4.3.

[sage-devel] Re: Sage upgrade error (polybori-0.6.3-20090827)

2010-01-16 Thread Igor Tolkov
On Jan 16, 12:18 pm, William Stein wrote: > 2010/1/16 Igor Tolkov : > > > My SAGE upgrade (using sage --upgrade) on the machine: > > What GCC? Using built-in specs. Target: x86_64-linux-gnu Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4' --with-bugurl=file:///usr/sh

Re: [sage-devel] Sage upgrade error (polybori-0.6.3-20090827)

2010-01-16 Thread William Stein
2010/1/16 Igor Tolkov : > My SAGE upgrade (using sage --upgrade) on the machine: What GCC? Precisely what computer? What version were you upgrading from? Post a link to the complete install.log file. > > Linux IT 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 17:53:40 UTC 2008 x86_64 > GNU/Linux > > failed

[sage-devel] Sage upgrade error (polybori-0.6.3-20090827)

2010-01-16 Thread Igor Tolkov
My SAGE upgrade (using sage --upgrade) on the machine: Linux IT 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 17:53:40 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux failed with the following error: g++ -o groebner/src/randomset.o -c -O3 -Wno-long-long -Wreturn-type -g -fPIC -ftemplate-depth-100 -g -fPIC -O3 -Wno-long-long -W

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-16 Thread Jaap Spies
Robert Miller wrote: Greetings! sage-4.3.1.rc0 is finally here. This should be a good base version for Bug Days, and closes a good deal of tickets. I thought it would be good to plan on an rc1 with just the ticket to fix building on OS X 10.6 (thoughts?). Also, reverting #7818 fixed a good deal

Re: [sage-devel] Re: constructing a scheme morphism to an affine curve

2010-01-16 Thread Willem Jan Palenstijn
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 09:47:30AM +1100, Alex Ghitza wrote: > > > Hi Willem Jan, Ronald, > > > I'm putting this on my todo list. About half a year ago I did some > work adding doctests and fixing/reorganising things with scheme > morphisms, but I didn't get a chance to finish. I'll try to ha

[sage-devel] Re: weirdness in simplifying a symbolic expression

2010-01-16 Thread rjf
To some extent, these problems might go away if people used nolabels:true in the files that they wrote to define their packages. Then the the names that they leave around might be more likely to be the names that they deliberately left around, and not the auto- generated names like C1, D1, %i1, %o2

Re: [sage-devel] broken show for unevaluated integrals

2010-01-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Robert, On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:58:54 -0800 (PST) "ma...@mendelu.cz" wrote: > Dear sage-devel > > the following (definite) integral is not evaluated by maxima and show > () command should return the same unevaluated integral in TeX > notation. I think this was the case in previous versions. O

Re: [sage-devel] Re: bad binomial sum

2010-01-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Andrej, On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:08:52 -0800 (PST) andrejv wrote: > On Jan 10, 6:15 pm, Harald Schilly wrote: > > Hi, I got this from the report a problem link: > > > > Typing (in the inotebook) > > > > var('t,k,i') > > sum(binomial(i+t,t),i,0,k) > > > > results in > > > > binomial(k + t + 1,

Re: [sage-devel] docstring errors in 4.3.1.rc0

2010-01-16 Thread John Cremona
2010/1/16 John Cremona : > 2010/1/16 William Stein : >>> >>> Should we open one ticket to fix all the errors? >> >> Yes, since doing otherwise will get confusing.  If we have trouble >> with this because of some particular issue, open a ticket for that >> issue. >> > > OK, it is now #7948.  It sho

[sage-devel] is Sage aiming to be the Wikipedia of Math?

2010-01-16 Thread rjf
In which case you might read http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/lanier06/lanier06_index.html A quote Just as people are willing to bend over backwards and make themselves stupid in order to make an AI interface appear smart (as happens when someone can interact with the notorious Microsoft paper cl

Re: [sage-devel] docstring errors in 4.3.1.rc0

2010-01-16 Thread John Cremona
2010/1/16 William Stein : > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:24 AM, John Cremona wrote: >> When building 4.3.1.rc0 there were a lot (240 lines) of errors in >> processing the documentation.  We should surely fix these, >> >> Some I understand and know how to fix (e.g. unexpected indentation), >> but what

Re: [sage-devel] docstring errors in 4.3.1.rc0

2010-01-16 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:24 AM, John Cremona wrote: > When building 4.3.1.rc0 there were a lot (240 lines) of errors in > processing the documentation.  We should surely fix these, > > Some I understand and know how to fix (e.g. unexpected indentation), > but what are these about? > > /home/john/

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-16 Thread ma...@mendelu.cz
On 16 led, 07:42, Robert Miller wrote: > Greetings! > > sage-4.3.1.rc0 is finally here. This should be a good base version for > Bug Days, and closes a good deal of tickets. I thought it would be > good to plan on an rc1 with just the ticket to fix building on OS X > 10.6 (thoughts?). Also, reve

[sage-devel] Has anyone got a good knowledge of gcc's 'fixincludes' ?

2010-01-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7932 describes what is a quite serious problem with the Solaris build. Robert's recent changes which add _Complex_I, are breaking the build on Solaris since there is a bug in gcc on Solaris. A simple bit of code which compiles on Linux with gcc, or Sol

Re: [sage-devel] update copyright years to span 2005--2010

2010-01-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi folks, It's that time of the year again when the copyright years for Sage need to be updated to reflect the new year. The copyright years should now span 2005--2010. The Sage wiki contains a page [1] that lists file you need to edit in order to update the copyright years. S

Re: [sage-devel] Re: rebuild the live cd HOWTO

2010-01-16 Thread Lucio Lastra
Hi Vincent, Sorry I didn't answer before I've been really busy. Until know the LiveCD has been created from scratch and is based on Jaunty. I created a custom base cd on which I work upon so even if I share with the script with the community I won't make any sense. Besides you've got to build Sag